Sniping is officially WORTHLESS in Black Ops

[ikey]

How about we stop arguing about this. Those that support quickscoping will NOT be swayed. Why?

It helps them win.

We live in an age where winning is everything. If people find a strategy that gives them an edge, no matter how broken, cheap and underhanded it is, they will abuse it to it's fullest and find every excuse in the book to do so. You might as well be talking to a brick wall. So for those who are happy at this turn of events, take joy in the fact that those who put winning over the Rule of Fun (although these same people will say that winning IS fun) have been giving the proverbial middle finger.

First of all, almost all quick scopers DON'T get high scores. We don't do it to win, we do it for the challenge, and because YOU guys have been complaining about how we were camping when we used the gun correctly. I got nukes consistently when I was using a sniper in its intended way, but when I started quick scoping, I never even got above a 7 kill streak, and almost always had a negative k/d. I stayed with it though, because it was more fun and less people complained.

 

[TG MLPDashie]

I never said they'd fire the AR while holding the knife, im saying you can knife someone while holding a gun you dumb fuck, read my entire post before trolling.
go to bed!

You can fire an AR then knife a second later in the game. In real life, you can only have one option, firing the AR or using your knife, you can't do both like in CoD. If you are in a hostile environment where you KNOW there are enemies, you are going to be moving around with both hands on the AR so you are ready to properly fire the weapon. You won't even consider knifing unless you lose you gun and then you'd be going for your pistol before you go for the knife anyways. CoD allows you to pull knives and nades out of your ass in an instant.

Once again read my entire post you dumb fuck, you can pull a knife from a case on your chest faster than pulling up your gun to shoot or un-holster a pistol, and ditto, you can drop your hand holing the barrel to grab a knife and then swing, its not fucking rocket science. and that also goes for nades except you would throw them instead of stabbing people with them. you dont pull them out of your ass, you just keep saying the same thing with nades and knives about pulling them out of your ass and every time i've given a valid response, you've lost the argument child, just shut up about it and realise you are wrong.

And if i had someone knock an AR out of my hand in a small space and was trying to kill me, i'd grab a knife before trying to un-holster a pistol, lift it up, and then pulling the trigger.

One word answer to that, Serpa. It takes less time to remove a handgun from a serpa than it does to remove a knife from a sheath.

lol thanks for that, i was typing fast and forgot to read over what i typed

 

[FoolKiller]

mmm... I forget how much I missed the gold old days of Ghost Recon. Last man standing matches where there was no movement for 5 minutes and the first fool to run across the field had several bullets all hit him/her at once.

I, for one, love sniping and camping. It requires skill and patience when done properly and well. MW2 may have had its issues but the idea of taking one possibly broken game mechanic and "fixing" it by introducing another broken idea just seems plain silly to me.

One thing that doesn't make sense to me is why people complain about snipers/campers, quickscopers, noob combos or anything else in any game. Each tactic is relevant and acceptable by that game's standards. If someone doesn't like that aspect then they should simply stop playing the game.

 

[SixWingedAsura]

First of all, almost all quick scopers DON'T get high scores. We don't do it to win, we do it for the challenge, and because YOU guys have been complaining about how we were camping when we used the gun correctly. I got nukes consistently when I was using a sniper in its intended way, but when I started quick scoping, I never even got above a 7 kill streak, and almost always had a negative k/d. I stayed with it though, because it was more fun and less people complained.

Every quick scoper I've ever encountered has always been ahead by a ridiculous margin. I personally have no issue with normal sniping. Sure, it's irritating, but I admit that it's a reasonable tactic. There's nothing cheap about it. Quick scoping though takes a weapon that has a strength in one field and a weakness in another and removes the weakness.

I don't see why Shotguns can't snipe you across map, yet Snipers should be able to OHKO someone from five feet away. If you're saying that quickscoping is fair, then you have to admit that extremely long-range, accurate shotguns are equally fair, because it's the same damn thing.

 

[Crumpet Man]

Oh, no. Now you have to actually play like a fucking sniper instead of using what is CLEARLY abuse of the auto-aim.

Snipers are supposed to be long-range. It IS more realistic this way. And I don't consider "You're fuckin'...you're stupid" to be an adequate rebuttal to my opinion.

Also, it was a poor choice to talk about how quickscoping doesn't work while a montage of successful quickscopes was playing.

Ok good, i wasn't the only one who noticed the miraculous success of every quick scope in that video. Additionally, when he showed the slow motion shot, wasn't the cross hair right on top of the person he was aiming at?

 

[Heatray]

This thread was like getting ten birthdays at once! Keep QQing PLEASE!! You're unskilled tears are so delicious!

 

[Chappy]

mmm... I forget how much I missed the gold old days of Ghost Recon. Last man standing matches where there was no movement for 5 minutes and the first fool to run across the field had several bullets all hit him/her at once.

I, for one, love sniping and camping. It requires skill and patience when done properly and well. MW2 may have had its issues but the idea of taking one possibly broken game mechanic and "fixing" it by introducing another broken idea just seems plain silly to me.

One thing that doesn't make sense to me is why people complain about snipers/campers, quickscopers, noob combos or anything else in any game. Each tactic is relevant and acceptable by that game's standards. If someone doesn't like that aspect then they should simply stop playing the game.

If someone loses to a tactic they would rather blame it on the tactic being used as being 'unfair' than admitting they just didn't do well and had a bad game, We are all guilty of this including myself because it's easier to blame something else than to admit fault.

As for why they will fix something that is so called 'broken' with something else broken I can only assume Activision and Treyarch we're concerned about profit margins and distribution if they didn't remove things that the majority of players didn't see eye to eye with even if it makes it impossible for other people to do what they want to, it's all about the majority vote.

Personally I think the 'twitch' idea that people had that Muzza mentioned in his video was a more balanced thing to put in than 3 seconds on random off the map accuracy.

Thats what I think anyway, and for reference anyone who thinks I'm a quickscoper saying this, nope sorry to disapoint but I couldn't snipe if my life depended on it in CoD MW2 I used a FAMAS instead.

 

[SixWingedAsura]

Thats what I think anyway, and for reference anyone who thinks I'm a quickscoper saying this, nope sorry to disapoint but I couldn't snipe if my life depended on it in CoD MW2 I used a FAMAS instead.

Yay! A fellow FAMAS user!

 

[Kelethor]

Well, Its their game. You don't have to play it if you don't like their shit.

 

[Free Thinker]

To quote Tychus Finley of SC2; "Hell. It's about time."
I was fairly angered when InfinityWard claimed "realism" for Modern Warfare 2. Realistic is apparently snipers using sniper rifles for close-range combat? Yeah. Fat chance. Treyarch is doing the community a favor by removing this pointless, moronic, "play style", if you can even grace it with such a title.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

We live in an age where winning is everything. If people find a strategy that gives them an edge, no matter how broken, cheap and underhanded it is, they will abuse it to it's fullest and find every excuse in the book to do so.

Quickscoping was abused because of aim assist not because quickscoping itself was broken, cheap, and/or underhanded.

I'm fine with them making it harder to quickscope. I quick scope all the time in MW2, and my k/d is usually negative, but I'm still okay with it.
My problem, is that they are making it impossible for people to get kills while legitimately sniping when a guy runs across a hallway for 2-3 seconds. Now snipers will have to be constantly scoped in to be able to get the kill. What I'm saying is that now snipers have disadvantages at ALL DISTANCES.

This is my point. Barely anyone is sticking to this, everyone is fucking bitching about quickscoping. The thread is supposed discuss how sniping is broken not quickscoping.

ive been playing games for 10 years of my life, i know about them and can actually acknowledge that not all games are prefect, everything has it's flaws. no one thing can be perfect and i will agree, mainly with the sudden insta-death on an FPS or the stray grenade that gets you from down the hall, nothing can be perfect, realise that kid, i have, but you dont need to troll everyone because you can't aim unless it involves quick-scope.

I'm probably at least 10 years old than you, kid, and I've been playing video games for over 20 years of my life. I don't quickscope or snipe in games and I know how broken this "fix" is. Treyarch should fix aim-assist, that was what was being exploited.

First of all, almost all quick scopers DON'T get high scores. We don't do it to win, we do it for the challenge, and because YOU guys have been complaining about how we were camping when we used the gun correctly. I got nukes consistently when I was using a sniper in its intended way, but when I started quick scoping, I never even got above a 7 kill streak, and almost always had a negative k/d. I stayed with it though, because it was more fun and less people complained.

Exactly, ARers and SMGers get better KDRs than quickscopers even with the exploiting of aim-assist.

This thread was like getting ten birthdays at once! Keep QQing PLEASE!! You're unskilled tears are so delicious!

QQ does not mean crying, look it up.

If someone loses to a tactic they would rather blame it on the tactic being used as being 'unfair' than admitting they just didn't do well and had a bad game, We are all guilty of this including myself because it's easier to blame something else than to admit fault.

As for why they will fix something that is so called 'broken' with something else broken I can only assume Activision and Treyarch we're concerned about profit margins and distribution if they didn't remove things that the majority of players didn't see eye to eye with even if it makes it impossible for other people to do what they want to, it's all about the majority vote.

Personally I think the 'twitch' idea that people had that Muzza mentioned in his video was a more balanced thing to put in than 3 seconds on random off the map accuracy.

Thats what I think anyway, and for reference anyone who thinks I'm a quickscoper saying this, nope sorry to disapoint but I couldn't snipe if my life depended on it in CoD MW2 I used a FAMAS instead.

Exactly, Treyarch fixed something that was overpowered to a degree with something even more broken. That is my point. Fix fucking aim-assist.

 

[Rajin Cajun]

''camp at the back of the map being a ***** ass sniper'' he means camp at the back of the map being a normal sniper...

My thoughts exactly. Kids these days are spastic and feel like sniping should be running around like a douchebag not using your brain, stalking and patience.

 

[Dauntless001]

Excellent news, so glad Treyarch decided to fix one of MW2's many many problems.

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

God forbid a sniper should actually have to be patient and line up a long range shot. Don't like it? Don't snipe.

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

God forbid a sniper should actually have to be patient and line up a long range shot. Don't like it? Don't snipe.

But that then means an entire class of weapon is utterly useless on the smaller maps.

A sniper rifle shouldn't be useful on small maps. Sniper rifles are meant for long range. The player can pick an AR or sub-machine gun, or shotgun, or pistol, and they all still shoot bullets and kill people.

 

[Seydaman]

Been playing awhile now
Is it me or are there very few sniper spots?
All the maps are broken into very small hallways...
Maybe it's just because the maps are new |:

 

[Dommyboy]

Oh no, realistic sniping!

Boohoo, OP. I like how they're taking out all the cheap stuff from previous games. Though, I still prefer BF.