Sniping is officially WORTHLESS in Black Ops

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EndOfDaWorld

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KingTiger said:
They should make the sniping like TF2 to prevent quick scoping and unbalanced snipers.
Thats sorta what their doing (according to Muzza anyways) In TF2 there was the bar for a one hit kill right?
If you have to wait 2 or 3 sec for the bullet to go where you want, its a similar concept
 

FightThePower

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Your post reads more like a rant than an argument. Actually, no, scratch that, it is a rant.

FYI, I don't think Quickscoping was ever overpowered; no matter how well you can do with it, you will do much better if you use an Assault Rifle or SMG. But the developers thought it was cheap, so that's why they took it out - a lot of people agree with them, a lot of them don't; you can't void their point simply by saying 'the developers are noobs'.

You can still snipe in Black Ops, it's just that you have to use a different playstyle. In terms of MW2, instead of Intervention FMJ Optic wannabees you get WA2000 Cold-Blooded snipers.
 

spartan1077

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I'm glad they took out quickscoping. It ruined a large part of MW2. You coudln't fight it when they were quickscoping you across the map. Or when you ran in and as soon as you started firing THE INTERVENTION ONE SHOT YOU BECAUSE ITS A SNIPER RIFLE! AN ASSAULT RIFLE(in games) CAN'T ONE SHOT
So I'm glad they took out that crap. But I'm still not getting it. And besides, you say that the only COD game you have is COD4 so why complain?
 

SodaDew

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Actually I LOVE the new way they did this, I personally hate quick scoping, its just not sniping unless your crouching down camouflaged and waiting for your target.
 

CrazyMedic

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praise jebus that is over, quickscoping shouldn't exist sniper should be in some rotted building not running around shooting people at close range.
 

Lancer873

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Eh, running around with a sniper rifle is just kinda stupid, and being able to headshot someone within a split-second of seeing them is annoying, especially given auto-aim... I think what'd be best would just be if quickscoping automatically set you to a random point somewhere around the torso instead of allowing you to go to the head. Or, better yet, just go with the Fallout method, and make it so that if you're moving/standing up your accuracy is seriously reduced.
 

Spectre4802

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Phoenixmgs said:
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I weep no tears over loosing 'quicksniping' as a viable tactic to kill people.

BUT, I have a few things to say.
1. Bitching about the devs ruining sniping and quickscoping when you don't even do it feels like your just throwing shit at the game because you can or feel like it, rather than actually being affected. (Actually, this one is directed at the OP. The next two arent't.)

2. Treyarch did this to fuck over quickscopers. Their intention wasn't to ruin sniping as a game tactic, and it hasn't been. I was killed two or three times by a well placed sniper shot. Just because the scope is a bit wavy at first doesn't mean "OH GOD SNIPING IS RUINED FOREVER FUCK YOU TREYARCH".

3. It's been, what, less than 48 hours since the game's been released. Seriously, throwing a fit about how the game is broken and unbalanced before the game even reaches the 48 hour mark is rediculous. (To be honest, this is just a rant on the people who have nothing but complaints about the game, nothing to do with anything, just needed to get it off my chest.)
 

OiXerxes

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God forbid Treyarch tries to balance Black Ops after the unbalanced mess that was Modern Warfare 2
 

iBananaCrazy

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Soooo, why can't they just make the scopes come up slower? And take aim assist off? Sounds pretty damn good to me.
 

Lancer873

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I don't really see the problem with camping while sniping so many people have. I mean, it's pretty effing retarded when they're just camping around one corner for the whole game with a shotgun for no real reason other than getting kills, but if they're sniping from a concealed spot, it's all plenty fair.
 

CoL0sS

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I have to admit, this is the first time I heard of these kind of kills to be referred to as quickscoping. Mostly I consider those guys to be skilled snipers. Now, I've been playing MW (but not MW2) for quite some time now and haven't really encountered a lot of ppl that can do this (on public servers at least), and even don't consider snipers to be that much of a problem. Sure they're annoying sometimes, but learning to outsmart them just makes you a better player (and the eventually killing them more satisfying).
 

Sporky111

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I don't care what you say about the need for realism, or the lack there-of: a sniper rifle should never be an effective weapon at close range.
 

Ashcrexl

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ah,i got so excited. i thought sniping, legit sniping was dead. i hate snipers and i hate playing as snipers so that would have been wonderful news. but instead, this thread is about the far less irritating quickscoping which i kind of feel is a more manly way to kill someone, unlike those cowards.
 

RedDeadFred

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I love how in the video he complains that the shotgun is better at close range than a sniper.

What a whiney *****.
 

Vaccine

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He says himself in the video; "I recommend using Pistols, SMGs, Assault Rifles and Shotguns", you know, close range weapons designed for close range shootouts?

Snipers aren't ment for close range, high powered -long range- weapon, not high powered -short-medium range- weapon.
 

DalekJaas

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oh get over it, I was playing yesterday and some guys were raping in HC SND with snipers, its not broken, go cry somewhere else
 

Phoenixmgs_v1legacy

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A Pious Cultist said:
If you never snipe how can you tell that it will affect snipers? As a veggie I never complain when butchers change how they handle meat.
Personally when I was a sniper I'd spend the majority of the time in scope, waiting to scope up is just asking to either be killed or to let the target get away (since you need to spend a second scoping, then a second holding your breath for your aim to steady).
I do the very occasional sniping in games. When I do snipe, I don't not look through the scope and snipe. I look around in the normal camera for enemies in the open, then I scope in and fire, I think it's just plain bullshit for the bullet to not go where you are aiming.
 

Phoenixmgs_v1legacy

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C4N4DUCK18 said:
1) If you NEVER use a sniper rifle (or quickscope) then why are you complaining that sniping is ruined? All other players who use sniper rifles like the idea of waiting 2-3 seconds before firing. It makes more sense than popping in, firing and popping back out in less then a second.
2) In any place (real, or simulated) Sniper rifles were meant to be fired at long range, not short-mid.
3) Is it unbalanced if they make you use a sniper rifle for what it is, instead of one-shotting people as you run through a map? I don't think so.

Might I suggest you come up with a stronger argument before deciding that a game is "ruined" because the developer got rid of a really cheap strategy.

PS: quoting yourself in saying that you haven't played another CoD game since MW1 isn't a good move, as it shows you don't have much experience with the game. It might be a good idea to actually play the game and experience it for yourself before basing your argument on someone else's self-shot video.
I do very occasionally snipe and when I do, I look over the map in the normal camera, then I scope in and fire. To have to wait to shoot accurately is just plain bullshit. There are so many other ways to nerf quickscoping, the way Treyarch chose to is perhaps the most retarded.

I never said that a sniper rifle SHOULD one shot kill. I'd be fine with a sniper rifle not one-shot killing from up close. However, with regen health, it kinda has to be one shot kill as the player that get hit with a sniper bullet can just hide for a few seconds and be at full health.