So Bin Laden is Dead, what now?

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Stoplesteimer

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'Merica fuck yeah!

The big question is, how soon will this be incorporated into Call of Duty, Battlefield, etc?

Sonic Doctor said:
Volkov said:
So the statement about drones was bullshit? Fair enough. Then back to my original question. What's the international/2-party law/agreement that lead to a US armed force acting on Pakistani soil?
No it wasn't, I got done watching every cable news program that was running the stuff. All of them and their military advisors and contacts said that it was a drone attack, we have never had clearance to even enter Pakistan with troops, only drone strikes have been allowed.
Directly form the presidents speech
"Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body."
 

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maturin said:
Volkov said:
So the statement about drones was bullshit? Fair enough. Then back to my original question. What's the international/2-party law/agreement that lead to a US armed force acting on Pakistani soil?
Sounds like Pakistan was in on this one, at least at some point.

But we have routinely carried out blatant violations of Pakistan's sovereignty, ignoring their very loud objections. Where have you been?

This is one they are not going to complain about.
I know that the US military has done this routinely, that's exactly why I asked the question. I am genuinely interested in the legal status of actions like this. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT THEY AGREE, by the way. In other words, if, say, Obama, says to me "Feel free to bring your fiance from across the border into the United States, without a visa" - this does not make me doing so legal, even if the US government agrees. Certain paperwork, according to certain laws (both international and US) has to be in place. Similarly to here; that's all I am asking - what was that paperwork, and what international/Pakistani laws govern this type of thing. (If it's an under-the-carpet type of thing, which it sounds like it is - well, I guess there isn't an open answer then).
 

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Sonic Doctor said:
Volkov said:
So the statement about drones was bullshit? Fair enough. Then back to my original question. What's the international/2-party law/agreement that lead to a US armed force acting on Pakistani soil?
No it wasn't, I got done watching every cable news program that was running the stuff. All of them and their military advisors and contacts said that it was a drone attack, we have never had clearance to even enter Pakistan with troops, only drone strikes have been allowed.
The President Himself announced that it was US ground troops
 

Necrotech

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"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." -Sir Winston Churchill

This will not stop the unrest, the violence or the hatred. But it will, I believe, put enough sense into some people that we WILL NOT rest until we accomplish our goals.

As a soldier I must say that the doors this both opens and closes does intrest and worry me some. But come what may we still have a job to do.
 

OutforEC

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"After a firefight, they killed Osama Bin Laden and took custody of his body."

This is the only thing I found strange. Not during a firefight, but after.

That being said, /tiphat to what appears to be a well-executed...er, execution.
 

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artanis_neravar said:
I would personally like to shake the hand of the soldier that took that kill shot.
I wonder if he shouted "Headshot FTW!" a moment later.
 

JochemDude

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Well ofcourse you're not pulling out. It's not like you we're there to get Bin Laden. No, but now just win that thing already. Hmmmkay
 

Spoonius

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I guess Soap and Price can take a well-earned break now.


Seriously though, Osama's death doesn't mean the coalition forces are out of the woods. There are going to be retaliation attacks for sure, and Osama himself was by no means the glue holding al-Qaeda together.

But props to the soldiers who brought him down. That must have been some Jason Bourne/Black Ops shit right there.
 

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this is a GREAT day for america...
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Even though he is dead, terrorism still exists.

Kind of worried if there is going to be some sort of retaliation.
This is a GREAT day for america... But I agree and I'm glad I'm not the only one worried about this
 

Sonic Doctor

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Volkov said:
Sonic Doctor said:
OutrageousEmu said:
I predict Republicans will come down with a massive case of shutting-the-fuck-up. You can't really talk shit to a President who took out the guy in, if I'm reading the sequence of events right, a day.
I highly doubt that, Obama did jack-crap. The U.S. military did all the work. Obama just sat there and said, "Hey guys is it okay if I start cutting down on the funds I'm giving you...oh, you need them, well too bad I'm going to do my best to cut them anyway."
1. Obama is part of the US military. He is the supreme commander.
2. Vast majority of the spending targeted by his reforms is entirely unrelated to the war on terror. Most of the costly technology (although not all) that the reforms have been targeting is for war against standing military of a similar size, not the wars that the US military has been fighting for over 6 decades.
My response to that is no. I've already explained why. But on top of that, supreme commander of nothing, the military hardly ever sends back word to Obama for confirmation, if they do, chances are they have already done what they were "asking" Obama to do.

Both my parents worked for the military and my dad served back in the 70's they the didn't wait for any president or political official to give a go ahead on things. If the military thought it needed to be done, they did it, it didn't matter what the President thought. If they waited for confirmation to do things all the time, stuff wouldn't get done.
 

Atmos Duality

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So it's real: Nearly a decade later, vengeance.

The United States has picked apart his organization over the last 10 years, and yet, at great cost. All in all, I would say the US didn't win. They won. They had won before the US ever set foot in Afghanistan.

Do not mistake what I say here as a defeatist attitude, but rather stating the nature of the problem.
You can't "beat" terrorism; you cope with the aftermath.
 

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Fronzel said:
Troy Vandeventer said:
Hey guys I registered so I could advertise my blog!
LOL

On topic, Yes it's true that our troops have no reason to be in the wars anymore since the AlQaeda ringleader left the building and the terrorist circle will collapse like a house of cards on a boat. But that doesn't mean they will. Because humanity is worthless.
 

IDTheftVictim

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Its about time.

I don't think it is going to slow Al-Qaeda (probably massacred the spelling) but I'm also not sure that things will get that much worse. There will probably be an increase in attacks but its not like they were going easy on us in the first place.

Right?
 

StarCecil

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US Navy SEALs did the job, assaulting his compound in Pakistan. Obama indicated that the Pakistani government knew that the US was going in, though whether they were compliant, agreed with it beforehand, or were told that it was going to happen regardless of their feelings is unclear.
 

Zhukov

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*shrug*

Doesn't mean a thing. He wasn't in charge of anything. Al-Quaeda isn't structured like that.