Bullshit, maybe for little things but the big stuff they sure as hell wait for approval, because the generals are politicians and if the military did what ever they wanted there would be major problemsSonic Doctor said:My response to that is no. I've already explained why. But on top of that, supreme commander of nothing, the military hardly ever sends back word to Obama for confirmation, if they do, chances are they have already done what they were "asking" Obama to do.Volkov said:1. Obama is part of the US military. He is the supreme commander.Sonic Doctor said:I highly doubt that, Obama did jack-crap. The U.S. military did all the work. Obama just sat there and said, "Hey guys is it okay if I start cutting down on the funds I'm giving you...oh, you need them, well too bad I'm going to do my best to cut them anyway."OutrageousEmu said:I predict Republicans will come down with a massive case of shutting-the-fuck-up. You can't really talk shit to a President who took out the guy in, if I'm reading the sequence of events right, a day.
2. Vast majority of the spending targeted by his reforms is entirely unrelated to the war on terror. Most of the costly technology (although not all) that the reforms have been targeting is for war against standing military of a similar size, not the wars that the US military has been fighting for over 6 decades.
Both my parents worked for the military and my dad served back in the 70's they the didn't wait for any president or political official to give a go ahead on things. If the military thought it needed to be done, they did it, it didn't matter what the President thought. If they waited for confirmation to do things all the time, stuff wouldn't get done.
Heh,Sonic Doctor said:My response to that is no. I've already explained why. But on top of that, supreme commander of nothing, the military hardly ever sends back word to Obama for confirmation, if they do, chances are they have already done what they were "asking" Obama to do.Volkov said:1. Obama is part of the US military. He is the supreme commander.Sonic Doctor said:I highly doubt that, Obama did jack-crap. The U.S. military did all the work. Obama just sat there and said, "Hey guys is it okay if I start cutting down on the funds I'm giving you...oh, you need them, well too bad I'm going to do my best to cut them anyway."OutrageousEmu said:I predict Republicans will come down with a massive case of shutting-the-fuck-up. You can't really talk shit to a President who took out the guy in, if I'm reading the sequence of events right, a day.
2. Vast majority of the spending targeted by his reforms is entirely unrelated to the war on terror. Most of the costly technology (although not all) that the reforms have been targeting is for war against standing military of a similar size, not the wars that the US military has been fighting for over 6 decades.
Both my parents worked for the military and my dad served back in the 70's they the didn't wait for any president or political official to give a go ahead on things. If the military thought it needed to be done, they did it, it didn't matter what the President thought. If they waited for confirmation to do things all the time, stuff wouldn't get done.
The deserve a parade through every major city in AmericaHHKelevra said:A bit more news has rolled in concerning the details of how Osama was killed.
Boom, Headshot. The soldier(s) that pulled that off should be allowed to retire right now.
This is a very true statement. The terrorists did, in fact, win.Atmos Duality said:So it's real: Nearly a decade later, vengeance.
The United States has picked apart his organization over the last 10 years, and yet, at great cost. All in all, I would say the US didn't win. They won. They had won before the US ever set foot in Afghanistan.
Do not mistake what I say here as a defeatist attitude, but rather stating the nature of the problem.
You can't "beat" terrorism; you cope with the aftermath.
in the FBI's files his name is also spelled usama, it's like the name John changed to JonSober Thal said:You're watching FOX news? Do they have Osamas name misspelled on the bottom of the screen, or is this just a Chicago feed I'm seeing with the idiotic typo for the last 30 minutes?AstylahAthrys said:Hell yes he is! Been watching Fox with my mom for.a hour now. Literally 5 minutes before we got the news Geraldo said "what if its Bin Laden?" We doubted it. But its true!
That would be the best game ever! Lets get them on that right now!OutrageousEmu said:Tbhey deserve a damn game. We need every damn major studio working together on this thing, damnit. Valve, Bioware, Naughty Dog, Zipper, Bungie, Infinity Ward, Epic, all of them, together.artanis_neravar said:The deserve a parade through every major city in AmericaHHKelevra said:A bit more news has rolled in concerning the details of how Osama was killed.
Boom, Headshot. The soldier(s) that pulled that off should be allowed to retire right now.
No you're mistake, it's the guy behind the 9/11 attackscanadamus_prime said:Who? Oh right, the scape goat. Of course. ¬_¬
been done. Fugitive hunter from several years ago.artanis_neravar said:That would be the best game ever! Lets get them on that right now!OutrageousEmu said:Tbhey deserve a damn game. We need every damn major studio working together on this thing, damnit. Valve, Bioware, Naughty Dog, Zipper, Bungie, Infinity Ward, Epic, all of them, together.artanis_neravar said:The deserve a parade through every major city in AmericaHHKelevra said:A bit more news has rolled in concerning the details of how Osama was killed.
Boom, Headshot. The soldier(s) that pulled that off should be allowed to retire right now.
I'm not saying it isn't awesome that Osama is dead. I'm just pointing out it will be incredibly stupid how people will wrongfully give Obama even a small bit of credit for this.OutrageousEmu said:Wow, way to sell your credibility up the river man.Sonic Doctor said:I highly doubt that, Obama did jack-crap. The U.S. military did all the work. Obama just sat there and said, "Hey guys is it okay if I start cutting down on the funds I'm giving you...oh, you need them, well too bad I'm going to do my best to cut them anyway."OutrageousEmu said:I predict Republicans will come down with a massive case of shutting-the-fuck-up. You can't really talk shit to a President who took out the guy in, if I'm reading the sequence of events right, a day.
You go and sit in your "Obama ruins everything" corner, the rest of us are gonna say how fucking awesome this is.
Lame I mean a good game, that "accurately" represents what happened lolDrakmeire said:been done. Fugitive hunter from several years ago.artanis_neravar said:That would be the best game ever! Lets get them on that right now!OutrageousEmu said:Tbhey deserve a damn game. We need every damn major studio working together on this thing, damnit. Valve, Bioware, Naughty Dog, Zipper, Bungie, Infinity Ward, Epic, all of them, together.artanis_neravar said:The deserve a parade through every major city in AmericaHHKelevra said:A bit more news has rolled in concerning the details of how Osama was killed.
Boom, Headshot. The soldier(s) that pulled that off should be allowed to retire right now.
Ends with a kickboxing match against Bin Laden
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fight starts at 4:15