Why does it matter if it was used or not?Delsana said:Maybe the 90 minor ones... the ones that are terrible but can be explained. The others break the game.
Please indicate all 170 + plotholes.. since you can explain them all.
Please indicate why the Thanix cannon is never used, there's one for you.
At the Mages tower, you fought 4-5 guys at the same time at most, same in the forest, and in redcliffe + castle.Delsana said:I fought 15 - 20 guys at most times in Dragon Age 1... no idea what you were doing.
\SajuukKhar said:And all of those plotholes are.... exceedingly explainable using common sense.Delsana said:Dude... only 7 plotholes are from the ending... the majority of them were in the beginning-mid and middle-end.
Reaper structure, weaponry, technology, and ability changes 3 times throughout ME3... not the series but ME3 itself... that's just one major plothole that basically makes anything involving the reapers to be inviable and thus factually occurring in the lore because it doesn't fit with the actual gameplay and vice versa it doesn't fit with the lore. So anything involving the Reapers has now become a plothole.
170+ more.
And I had explained everyone I have ever heard with some basic reasoning skills.
Also The Reapers are over 1 billion years old, it makes sense they have had many diffrent styles of weaponry, and strcutures, based on what era it was built in.
Why does it matter?SajuukKhar said:Why does it matter if it was used or not?Delsana said:Maybe the 90 minor ones... the ones that are terrible but can be explained. The others break the game.
Please indicate all 170 + plotholes.. since you can explain them all.
Please indicate why the Thanix cannon is never used, there's one for you.
Several Alliance fleet ships had Thanix cannon, or their derivatives.
At the Mages tower, you fought 4-5 guys at the same time at most, same in the forest, and in redcliffe + castle.Delsana said:I fought 15 - 20 guys at most times in Dragon Age 1... no idea what you were doing.
the deep roads brought it up maybe 10, but even then it was rare to face 10 people at once.
Becuase explaining that a over 1 billion year old race would have varying architecture, weapons, etc. etc., based on how many races they had absorbed at that point is "ignoring" the plot hole.Delsana said:You just ignored the plot hole...
THEY DONT USE ANY OF THEIR ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY THEY USED UP UNTIL THAT POINT... no shields, no nothing. They just make noises and shoot lasers... they do none of the other things said other than harvesting and most of their harvested things disappear from ME2...
You can try and explain them away, but you can't actually if you look at all 170+, plus.. you can't if you actually want to see what's wrong with that game. Plus... you can't explain a way a plot hole... no point in history have plot holes been "explained away", you need to use the lore and facts to understand it.. or you hand wave it.. or it is retconned. Those are the only things that have ever been done regarding plot holes.
Actually it was noted that the alliance fleet has them, and derivative based weapons, and thanix missiles were also said to used during the battle for earth.Delsana said:Why does it matter?
To be fair I think the reasons most people had a problem with the endings of Mass Effect 3 was that the hologram kid promised radically different outcomes but we were shown virtually identical ending cinematics.SajuukKhar said:Most of the supposed "plotholes" mostly came from the fact that the game's ending didn't hold your hand and explain every single thing to you in 100% detail and you had to use some common sense.
Yes, agreed.Fappy said:While there has been plenty of Bioware bashing/defense going on in this thread already lets go ahead and end this BSN derail. Nothing good will come of it.
IIRC its been confirmed DA3's hero is an new guy/girl.voltair27 said:Also, if they let me play as my Warden again and make Hawke just a companion, that would be great.
Well your wrong on several accountsvoltair27 said:Can somebody explain to me why the Reapers have their harvest again?
This is what I got: We are a synthetic race that wipes out all organic species to prevent organic species from creating synthetic life which will then wipe them out.
I think they have something planned for the Warden and Hawke. I doubt they'll just forget about them. Unlike Bethesda who is like, "You know how you fulfilled the prophecy and saved Morrowind? Well fuck that. Your character achieved CHIM and could have easily saved Vvardenfel from the Ministry of Truth with his godpower? Too bad. He was too busy fighting snake-vampires or some shit."SajuukKhar said:IIRC its been confirmed DA3's hero is an new guy/girl.voltair27 said:Also, if they let me play as my Warden again and make Hawke just a companion, that would be great.
I think its best if they take the Elder Scrolls approach of "your dude from the last game disappeared for a unknown reason" thing.
Actually the fall of the ministry of truth is something vivec wanted because of Landfall, and getting his people back on the path of CHIM, and a whole bunch of other stuff.Fappy said:I think they have something planned for the Warden and Hawke. I doubt they'll just forget about them. Unlike Bethesda who is like, "You know how you fulfilled the prophecy and saved Morrowind? Well fuck that. Your character achieved CHIM and could have easily saved Vvardenfel from the Ministry of Truth with his godpower? Too bad. He was too busy fighting snake-vampires or some shit."
I subscribe to the idea that Vivec wanted you to kill him. Pretty sure the Nerarverine would have made a better CHIM teacher. I wouldn't hide its secrets in riddles for one thing.SajuukKhar said:Actually the fall of the ministry of truth is something vivec wanted because of Landfall, and getting his people back on the path of CHIM, and a whole bunch of other stuff.Fappy said:I think they have something planned for the Warden and Hawke. I doubt they'll just forget about them. Unlike Bethesda who is like, "You know how you fulfilled the prophecy and saved Morrowind? Well fuck that. Your character achieved CHIM and could have easily saved Vvardenfel from the Ministry of Truth with his godpower? Too bad. He was too busy fighting snake-vampires or some shit."
Close enough, I still thought that it was absolutely retarded.SajuukKhar said:Well your wrong on several accountsvoltair27 said:Can somebody explain to me why the Reapers have their harvest again?
This is what I got: We are a synthetic race that wipes out all organic species to prevent organic species from creating synthetic life which will then wipe them out.
-The Reapers are not synthetics, they are syntho-organic hybrids.
-The Reapers do not wipe out all organic life in the galaxy, just the space-faring species, which is probably an extremely small amount of the over-all galactic population, given that all the races in Mass Effect come from, and have explored, less then 1% of the total number of stars in the galaxy.
-They kill off the space-fareing species because the race that built them believed synthetics would kill everything, and keep it dead forever, The Reapers on the other hand kill off relatively little, and keep life going.
Now I could explain in like 6 paragraphs as to why the Reapers cant just kill off the other robots, or constantly police the galaxy, because the game gives reasons for all of those, but this isn't the thread for that.
Wait... your real life name is Vivec?voltair27 said:Whenever somebody mentions Vivec I get really embarrassed cause that's my name.
Wait... your real life name is Vivec?[/quote]SajuukKhar said:[post="9.380964.15025667"]Whenever somebody mentions Vivec I get really embarrassed cause that's my name.
Anyways back on topic, there are some people who abhor Bioware/EA and will never buy another game from them, some who give them the benefit of the doubt, and some who will buy it because they are drooling Biodrones.