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I like the way that she says that she thinks that there will be something saying how the princess gets thin, and then she rants on, as if her imaginary ending is an announced feature.
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Lockdown = A thread is locked, so no more posts can be added to it.barryween said:
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I hear that staple arguement a lot. What job are we talking about? Boxing? Construction? I've never seen a situation where this has been true. Is there some sort of sheet you have fill out when getting a raise with a box that says 'Are you a female?'. Then depending on if you checked it or not affects the outcome of your raise. Is there some sort of vagina tax?The_root_of_all_evil said:
I honestly don't care about the feminist movement or arguements about it. I just hate cliche catch phrases that make me think I'm listening to rosie o'donald.
But do women have the same level of education as men? if the wage disparity was equal to the education disparity then there really isn't a point here.dukeh016 said:
It's mostly due to the "Old Boys Club" that still runs alot of big buisiness i.e. it's hard for a woman to climb the ladder becase she can't be as "buddy buddy" with the higher ups, but this is gradually changing, hell, I'm the only guy in my department and I make the least (because I'm the least qualified and in the lowest position).BallPtPenTheif said:
(Sorry for the double post)
I like them?
On a more serious note (and is may be a case of first time poster trying to sound like a reasonable human being, don't worry I'm sure it will pass like so much bad gas) I find it a curious to see some of the back and forth fire fighting here and wonder, where does the point descend. Some people have self image issues. I know more than a handful, yes I am aware of the underlying pun, of plus size women who are confident and attractive. Even if you go out onto the recesses of the internet even the size acceptance community isn't in as much as an embroiled conversation as is being carried out here.
Intended or unintended social messages aside, I would think we as responsible people can reserve judgment upon a game until it has been released and played.
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bring the noose, I haven't shaved in about a day, my stubble is sharp enough to cut free from yon natural fibers...wait...what if they use synthetic cord...OH S***!
bring the noose, I haven't shaved in about a day, my stubble is sharp enough to cut free from yon natural fibers...wait...what if they use synthetic cord...OH S***!
Perhaps if feminists would actually, you know, call out the idiots in their group instead of just letting them spew their hate for men about, then perhaps so many people wouldn't be bothered by feminism.
It would be rather nice to see either feminism update it's structure to better fit modern times or have a superior social movement come along and replace it.
It would be rather nice to see either feminism update it's structure to better fit modern times or have a superior social movement come along and replace it.
My god, this is insane. The amount of people shouting "fat ***** needs to shut up and die" has subsided, but the thread has somehow managed to deteriorate. Christ.
Jumplion. I wasn't offended by your big post of examples of why men have contributed more to the world than women, because it was so full of nonsense. The major reason why there are so few famous women in history is that a little thing called "sexism" existed, and the number of women who were actually allowed to do stuff like be educated and not sit around sewing or something was significantly lower than it is today. And the rest of your post was simply not true. They weren't allowed to fight in wars, and your personal experience with doctors and drivers means fuck all, when there's a hell of a lot of women who are doctors, drivers, and plenty of men who are nurses, and whiney-ass backseat drivers.
And then there's the fact that, even if the hypothetical situation were to arrise that men contributed more to the world than women, what the hell does that even matter? Does having a common factor with someone famous suddenly make you worth more than someone who doesn't?
Ooh, ooh, here's a fun thought. Guess what else 99% of the people you listed were? White! That means white people are better than black people, because white people contributed more to society. No, no, lets ignore the fact that white people had a massive head start in terms of civilisation, your logic must be right!
For the robots of the internet, that was sarcasm. I was using sarcasm to make a point.
Everything else I wanted to say was basically summed up here:
I would like to add, tho', that the whole reason that blogger was getting pissed was that the Fat Princess thing was offering up this morbidly obese woman as a figure of fun. Which it is. She was also annoyed that a lot of people think the concept of the game is hilarious. Which they do.
I'd also appreciate it if the people equating the word "feminist" with "feminazi psycho *****" would kindly stop. The two are different, and you're helping nobody by being so silly.
The majority of this thread has been filled with nonsense from people who read as far as "chubby chick hates on a game" and started firing up their death-threats and repressed sexism as soon as they realised that other people were doing the same. I haven't seen such horrible examples of humanity in months, so excuse me if I'm a little too shocked to properly convey my sheer disgust. I've had to revert to "cheerful mocking" because if I were to try and utilise any of my hatred for these silly, silly people, it would probably result in my failure to properly control my rage, and my subsequent ban.
Now, if you'll all excuse me, I need to go repeatedly punch something until I either run out of anger or my fist starts to bleed. I do hope I reach a pillow before I find a wall or a sibling or something.
Jumplion. I wasn't offended by your big post of examples of why men have contributed more to the world than women, because it was so full of nonsense. The major reason why there are so few famous women in history is that a little thing called "sexism" existed, and the number of women who were actually allowed to do stuff like be educated and not sit around sewing or something was significantly lower than it is today. And the rest of your post was simply not true. They weren't allowed to fight in wars, and your personal experience with doctors and drivers means fuck all, when there's a hell of a lot of women who are doctors, drivers, and plenty of men who are nurses, and whiney-ass backseat drivers.
And then there's the fact that, even if the hypothetical situation were to arrise that men contributed more to the world than women, what the hell does that even matter? Does having a common factor with someone famous suddenly make you worth more than someone who doesn't?
Ooh, ooh, here's a fun thought. Guess what else 99% of the people you listed were? White! That means white people are better than black people, because white people contributed more to society. No, no, lets ignore the fact that white people had a massive head start in terms of civilisation, your logic must be right!
For the robots of the internet, that was sarcasm. I was using sarcasm to make a point.
Everything else I wanted to say was basically summed up here:
More people need to be this.Alex.P said:
I would like to add, tho', that the whole reason that blogger was getting pissed was that the Fat Princess thing was offering up this morbidly obese woman as a figure of fun. Which it is. She was also annoyed that a lot of people think the concept of the game is hilarious. Which they do.
I'd also appreciate it if the people equating the word "feminist" with "feminazi psycho *****" would kindly stop. The two are different, and you're helping nobody by being so silly.
The majority of this thread has been filled with nonsense from people who read as far as "chubby chick hates on a game" and started firing up their death-threats and repressed sexism as soon as they realised that other people were doing the same. I haven't seen such horrible examples of humanity in months, so excuse me if I'm a little too shocked to properly convey my sheer disgust. I've had to revert to "cheerful mocking" because if I were to try and utilise any of my hatred for these silly, silly people, it would probably result in my failure to properly control my rage, and my subsequent ban.
Now, if you'll all excuse me, I need to go repeatedly punch something until I either run out of anger or my fist starts to bleed. I do hope I reach a pillow before I find a wall or a sibling or something.
Isn't indoctrination a natural part of culture though? It's kind of like with education. Many people don't consider education and brain-washing/indoctrination the same thing, but in many ways they are almost exactly the same (at least in method, rather than content taught). I mean, isn't saying "You shouldn't be sexist" just as much indoctrination as "Men are smarter than women"?Cheeze_Pavilion said:
Not that I'm suggesting that being sexist is a good thing, just trying to play the devil's advocate here.
But his implication is that the point he makes is correct whilst people attuned to the same culture are incorrect. That's having your cake and eating it, if you'll pardon the analogy.Cheeze_Pavilion said:
The culturally specific roles are widespread and take on many forms. The Attractive, Waif-Like, Brainless Princess is matched by the Stupid, Fat, Drunkard Husband. Do you really think anyone that didn't fit into the role would be complaining about this?
Now, if there is a complaint against 'Fat Princess', I'd like to see exactly what part of this there is a complaint about, is it the "Fat", in which case Homer Simpson is equally at fault; or is it the "Princess", in which case Marge Simpson is equally at fault, or is it the idea of a "Fat Princess", in which case you're talking about tackling obesity, or is about a game that's not even been released yet in which case, I'd really wait until it got out there before making a whole series of blogs decrying how dare people make this terribly evil game that attacks you and all you stand for because you consider yourself a fat princess.
And relax.
As for Break...Dude, if you're going to comment on something that never happened to you, you really don't need to put that much effort in.
Ms. Fat Princess took it upon herself to be OUTRAGED and then was 'surprised' when people started laughing at her. So, she decided it was because she was fat, NOT that she was having hysterics over something that might not even be released.
Seriously, we rip into Jack Thompson far worse than this, and I doubt anyone knows or cares what his BMI is.
That's the whole point of critical theory, which serves as the basis of a lot of modern feminist theory. Everything is open to analysis and (dare I say it?) deconstruction. It's about understanding why we think what we think.Joeshie said:
Unfortunately, as a consequence of a variety of issues, the academics who serve as the gatekeepers of modern critical theory and literary theory are often too busy circling their wagons against uninformed external attacks (like this bullshit XKCD strip [http://xkcd.com/451/]) to deeply criticize some of the fundamental elements of their own fields.
-- Alex