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What amazes me more is that people display a sort of attitude like 'All fat people are bad'. Sure, a few whine/***** around, but then again, you have to point out a group of people to me that does not have whiners! What is it with the hate?
Not quite true. There's a lot of people that have the attitude of "All people are bad, these happen to be fat, so let's get at them for their weight." (Despite them having WKD guts)Girlysprite said:
But if you're going to say "LOVE ME BECAUSE I'M FAT", then god help you, because the internet sure won't.
Why do people insist on associating themselves with feminism if, as they claim, they're only interested in equality? The vast majority of feminists I've seen have, one way or another, advocated policies and ideas that are in opposition to equality, or they have simply complained about astoundingly trivial "problems" while ignoring real ones. Feminists will complain to no end about games like Fat Princess or about traffic lights having male and not female characters in them, but they can't be bothered with real problems like, say, the treatment of women in Islamic societies. They also tend to be paranoid nutjobs with wild conspiracy theories about The Patriarchy which is keeping them down. Of course, they aren't the only group who blame all their failures on a shadowy international conspiracy.AntiAntagonist said:
I support equality, and that's why I'm not a feminist. Feminism is at best a political ideology that elevates women, or just feminists, above everyone else. At worst feminism seeks to genocide or enslave the male population, and the fact that such talk is tolerated by society shows just how far feminism has advanced (of course, if you ask a feminist she'll tell you that women have it worse than Jews in Nazi Germany). There is no good reason to say you're a feminist if you simply advocate equality. You do not need feminism and you will simply inconvinience yourself by always having to explain that you're not that kind of feminist. Of course, there's always the possibility that you don't really advocate equality, or you have a warped idea of what constitutes equality. In that case, I suppose, it makes sense to call yourself a feminist.
If anyone can be a feminist and define feminism however they see fit, what's to stop me from ascribing statement X from feminist Y to feminists as a whole? Also, if a self-declared feminist can define what feminism is, then surely an opponent of feminism is free to do the same?Alex_P said:
In several European countries you can be fined or imprisoned for saying things that are politically incorrect, even if they're factually true. That's enforcement. America is, I guess, more free, but since everyone and their dog fervently believes in political correctness it will be enforced one way or another.
You have no problems with the term white, but you won't use the term black? Also, how was Joan of Arc "standing up to the white man?" She was white herself. She was executed for heresy, a charge which was nullified in a posthumous trial only a few decades later.Jumplion said:
Damn, I thought this thread was dead. Oh well.frontier psychiatrist said:
It doesn't help that I'm a whitey myself, but after you hear a bunch of kids with under-their-breath racial slurs in your own school where it's every man (or woman!) for his or herself, you start to get uncomfortable at saying anything racist because the teacher could be 2 feet away (it happend before, me and my friends were just doing a bunch of friendly yo mama jokes and a teacher who HAPPEND to be black caught me and almost got me in trouble. So yeah, that didn't help the "black" term either >_> Ironically, the Yo mama joke was racist to White people and fat mothers)
anybody see FoxNews comment weigh in on the issue?
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/247056.html
they're even more callous than you guys
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/247056.html
they're even more callous than you guys
Dear god, what a lot of...er, discussion. Some of it's even sensible. It looks like a cute game with an endearingly silly premise, but what do I know. Endless body-beautiful characters does damage to peoples' body image, and it seems odd that this rare representation of 'prized overweight female' also seems to be upsetting. I think the core problem is the 'helpless female' idea, which is repeated hundreds of times in fiction and not especially enlightened - but it's sad that even the Fat Feminists are missing that point entirely for the 'it's just mean to fat women' argument. That just undermines everything, to everyone's cost. We still need people defending their rights, even now we need feminists, but this is misguided.
Incidentally, as a disabled person I'm extremely offended by Uncharted and will be petitioning for Uncharted 2 to have wheelchair access in all ruins. Stop the hate, people.
Incidentally, as a disabled person I'm extremely offended by Uncharted and will be petitioning for Uncharted 2 to have wheelchair access in all ruins. Stop the hate, people.
Now, see, if this princess pulled out twin revolvers and started firing whilst jumping through the air and going "AHHHH", I'd be interested. Sadly, this event does not take place to my knowledge, so I don't give a shit.
If it was a fat guy being rescued, this girl would've never said shit. No uproar would be achieved whatsoever, and everyone would've been happy. Oh wait, no, we'd have a fat dude calling foul. How about instead of that, we have a hanicapped person? Nope, none of that noise. Anyone in the world whose sustained an injury would speak out on that.
I know, let's make it a cute animal. Surely that's acceptible, right? Pfft, fuck that, any animal you can think of would have a fanbase that'll be whining and bitching for ages.
What if the rescuee was sorta tan? Totally racist, right?
You see, there's no way to do anything anymore without someone going off and thinking it's offensive in some way, when in all aspects it's really not. The issue is not whether it's misogynistic, nor is it about making fun of fat folks. This whole situation was sparked by some dumbass who read into a lighthearted game way too deeply, and decided, instead of rationalizing, became a 15 minute star by bitching and whining about an innocent game. Or in other words, just another day in the gaming world.
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If it was a fat guy being rescued, this girl would've never said shit. No uproar would be achieved whatsoever, and everyone would've been happy. Oh wait, no, we'd have a fat dude calling foul. How about instead of that, we have a hanicapped person? Nope, none of that noise. Anyone in the world whose sustained an injury would speak out on that.
I know, let's make it a cute animal. Surely that's acceptible, right? Pfft, fuck that, any animal you can think of would have a fanbase that'll be whining and bitching for ages.
What if the rescuee was sorta tan? Totally racist, right?
You see, there's no way to do anything anymore without someone going off and thinking it's offensive in some way, when in all aspects it's really not. The issue is not whether it's misogynistic, nor is it about making fun of fat folks. This whole situation was sparked by some dumbass who read into a lighthearted game way too deeply, and decided, instead of rationalizing, became a 15 minute star by bitching and whining about an innocent game. Or in other words, just another day in the gaming world.
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that's just ridiculous. it's a game it's just trying to be humorous and satirical. It's nothing to get up in arms about. This isn't a personal assault on every overweight woman in the world. If i were offended this easily then my life would be horrible. Lighten up and enjoy the game. 
Sure, it works both ways. That means that neither a self-labeled feminist nor a self-labeled not-feminist can truly own "equality."frontier psychiatrist said:
Still, I find the idea of deliberately and vocally calling oneself an anti-feminist, as some do in this thread, to be tons more dubious than the idea of deliberately and vocally calling oneself a feminist.
Me? I try to put on funny label-hats only when it'll piss people off. They're pretty useless otherwise.
Correct.frontier psychiatrist said:
-- Alex
My computer won't load blogs. It's really strange and starting to piss me off. It says that the operation couldn't be completed so it was aborted, even though I can see the page until it says that. I was wondering if anyone knew what was going on cuz' I love listening to people rant.
I know this thread should be dead, but I just wanted to share this video to people.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=user&v=9iNs5iG2h34
Just wanted to drop this by.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=user&v=9iNs5iG2h34
Just wanted to drop this by.
too fucking true...Instinct Blues said:
oh and another thing!
final fantasy games are made in japan right? japanese people are on average 5'2-5'8 and are generally thinner than most westerners, so therefore of course their characters are going to be thinner, have you seen the character faces? it's obvious they are based on japanese phenotypes! i hate people like her (http://angryfatgirlz.blogspot.com/) who complain about their weight, then admit it's their fault, but then hit reverse and blame 'society' as there are more fast food restaurants? just dont go in you fat fuck!
I was going to join just so I could ruin everyone elses parade by talking sense into them and telling them how stupid she is. Seriously, her middle finger looks like a really short, fat, sausage. If she were smart she would realize that you are saving her despite the fact that she's fat.
