So, how about that PETA, huh?

Recommended Videos

BonsaiK

Music Industry Corporate Whore
Nov 14, 2007
5,635
0
0
PETA are probably aware that people on the internet LOVE to start hate-speech, and by setting themselves up to be extreme and deliberately hated PETA gain all sorts of free publicity that they simply wouldn't get if they were a "nice" or "correct" organisation. This then gets the underlying issues some coverage. Greenpeace do the same thing. So a few facts get fudged here and there, that's not a big deal for them. Politicians and activists with an agenda fudge the facts all the time, look at the way the NRA play fast and loose with firearm stats, and look at the way anti-gun lobbyists also play fast and loose with the same stats to get a different result. In the end, people believe what they want to believe, usually based on belief and leaps of faith rather than evidence, and a smart politician or activist knows this, and knows that they have to hit emotional buttons to get results and bring issues to centre-stage. PETA are one group who is brilliant at this. Look, they can even get a bunch of video gamers talking about animal rights.

I think PETA are a lot smarter than they appear and it's all part of a bigger strategy. I also think that any "I hate PETA" threads play into their hands just as they intend. The people who type "PETA killed my dad" or "People Eating Tasty Animals" are just adding fuel to the fire that PETA uses to warm its hands and cook its tofu burgers. Think about it... there's been several PETA and Greenpace threads on the Escapist, but how many threads are there concerning other, less confrontational rights groups? Very few, perhaps none... because a group that is behaving itself does not effectively gather publicity for its cause as well as a group that is perceived as "over the top" or "extreme" or even "nuts". Love them or hate them, PETA isn't dumb and it certainly isn't boring. Because if they were boring you wouldn't have even opened this thread, you wouldn't even be reading this right now. Right now, right this very second, PETA have you talking about and thinking about issues that you might rather not think about at all, and that is their whole purpose. From PETA's point of view, it doesn't actually matter if people like PETA or not, as long as they talk about PETA, and think about PETA. It's like The Game - if you hate it but you still discuss it, or even think about it, you lose.
 

Logan Badass

New member
May 23, 2009
61
0
0
I don't like Peta for the simple fact that they are hypocrites and keep terrorists on thier payrolls. They sponsored a guy that went to a high school and taught the kids there how to make firebombs. The intentions they have are admirable, but thier execution is despicable.
 

magnuslion

New member
Jun 16, 2009
898
0
0
dude. read their actual Manifesto. its one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen. its basically the same thing as euthanasia for pets instead of people. these people are sick.
 

lostclause

New member
Mar 31, 2009
1,860
0
0
sms_117b said:
Basically, I do not care how animals are treated, humans are the superior species on this planet, we should be able to do as we please to the rest of the food chain.
This statement fascinated me. I'm not criticising your opinion or trying to start something but can I ask why you think that? (If you don't want to risk a flame war pm me but I'm genuinely curious).
 

Doug

New member
Apr 23, 2008
5,205
0
0
ph3onix said:
Doug said:
PurpleRain said:
Zombie_Fish said:
I find it's not their intentions that annoy me it's how they go about with them that puts me off. They just have so much propaganda to try and force people to follow the same opinions as them, that's what really pushes them over the limit for me.
I'm sure most of their work you don't hear about. They have probably donated so much to funds and helping the wild-life. Only a lot of it is played up. Plus, I've also heard a lot of people complaining about them painting seals. I think that's great and want to help one day!
Figures please? Given your pretty keen to keep facts in this topic.

PurpleRain said:
Kriptonite said:
This is true, people often see/hear P.E.T.A and instantly say/type the first nasty insult they can. I like the idea P.E.T.A started out with but I think that the extent they take things is...well...necessary. I say this because people now need to be shocked to change what they do, people will no longer change based on what's right, the only thing that counts now is the bottom line. And that is sad. But I still do not align with P.E.T.A for I do not wish to take things so far. I have found that the best tool is logic and facts. These seem to upset people who are uninformed and after a while they tend to think things out and see the bigger picture. Well, let's watch and see the flame that will surely ensue, for you said "P.E.T.A". Good luck.
Haha, thanks man. Hopefully this will help shed a little light.
To be honest, its because every time PETA crop up on our news section, its for some crazy complaint about virtual animals who aren't even real, OR they are using our medium for attention whoring proganda:-

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/87494-Cooking-Mama-The-PETA-Version
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/88480-Fable-2-Is-PETAs-Game-of-the-Year
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/87613-PETA-Requests-Cooking-Mama-Vegetarian-Kitchen
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/90757-PETA-Protests-Seal-Slaughter-in-World-of-Warcraft
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/90391-PETA-Responds-to-World-at-War-Dog-Killing-Controversy

To me, it seems most gamers (including me) hate people who attention whore
And that's why I dislike (decided that hate is a too heavy word) them, instead of helping real animals they help pixels, ones and zeros and cry for publicity.
Indeed. Also, this link (I think I got it elsewhere on this site, but can't remember who) http://petakillsanimals.com/article_detail.cfm?article=134
 

mrx19869

New member
Jun 17, 2009
502
0
0
- as humans we need to be able to live sustainably, with balance in nature
-as humans its my God given right to eat animals
-PETA is on the outside a great organization, however like many organization they are filled with crazy people who would hurt a man, woman, or child, but not an animal.

-now big on to big steaks
-one to eat, the other to slap in the face of anybody who tries to take my first steak away from me
 

Agema

Overhead a rainbow appears... in black and white
Legacy
Mar 3, 2009
9,917
7,080
118
I have no inherent dislike of animal rights groups, although I disagree with them on many points. However many such groups, including PETA, go about their business in a way I find completely objectionable.

Most seriously, whilst PETA have not funded terrorist animal rights groups themselves, they have given money to individuals accused of animal rights terrorism to do stuff like pay their legal fees when they've been caught. That might be legally acceptable, but it amounts to ethical support of terrorism. Generally, they regularly shown a lack of respect for fellow humans over issues such as slavery, mass murder and women's rights. I don't think humans need to be insensitively and hurtfully exploited in order to advance animal rights.
 

Horned Rat

New member
Feb 4, 2009
120
0
0
There are many greenie groups around. Lets look at a famous one in comparison to PETA and we can see why people hate them (keep in mind this is in my country, so things may be different in the rest of the world).

Greenpeace:

Protest - The Steve Irwin ship harasses Japanese whaling ships in the Pacific. Generally by sailing too close. They have thrown eggs and other stuff though. The objective is to force the Japanese ships out of whale waters.

Interaction with general public - Every now and then you meet a representative in Auckland's main street. They stand there with their clipboard, they are polite and discuss with people about either joining or donating. I have donated many times.


PETA:

Protest - Generally in-your-face. Their most recent in these parts has been having 3 people walk down (the middle of) Auckland's main street dressed as lettuces to protest people eating meat. This caused traffic problems and in the middle of the day.

Interaction with general public - see above.

The difference between the 2 is simple. Greenpeace and co protest those that are truly harming the planet, i.e deforrestation, poaching and whaling. These things are unnecessary and should be stopped. PETA protest the way people live their lives. Demanding people eat no meat or don't keep pets (I use demand because that is what they do) is an attack on peoples personal freedom.

This is why people hate PETA.
 

Vern

New member
Sep 19, 2008
1,302
0
0
My problem is that they advocate the complete non-use of animals by humans. Animals should be left to care for themselves in the fields and woods, with no human interaction. Let's see how many Chihuahuas and Spaniels get along without human protection. They demonize all people who consume meat, however humans are an omnivorous species and the reason we've gained the mental abilities we have has quite a bit with the fact that we consume the proteins in meat. They advocate that all humans should stop using animals in any way, but the reason our species has come as far as it has is because we learned to use our environment to our advantage. I mean really, we're abusing cotton since we make clothes out of it, and we're abusing lettuce because we grow it simply so we can have salads. Humans are the dominant species on the Earth, with that comes the fact that we can use it's resources to further our own growth. I'm not really concerned with inhumane treatment towards animals on farms because they're going to help my own species survive, and I can't see how they can call it inhumane, since that implies that these animals are humans in the first place. They're not, they are a resource like fruits and vegetables that we use. When a pig flies to the moon or presents a convincing arguments why they shouldn't be eaten then I'll listen. Until then they are animals, and their main function to humans is to provide sustenance, and I'm sure any pig would feel the exact same way if the situation was reversed.
 

razer17

New member
Feb 3, 2009
2,518
0
0
Firstly i dislike anyone, anyone, that tries to preach to me how i should live my life.
They use shock pictures to get attention, which is annoying. They try to convert everyone to there way, despite the repercussions it would have.
Animal testing, let's stop that and test on humans shall we? Yes, if there were a suitable replacement for animal testing i would certainly prefer it to animal testing, but there isn't. (this counts for medicine and such, not cosmetics and the like)

Plus if they did (they won't) succede in turning everyone to be a vegan, what do we do with the millions of suddenly jobless people?
 

Wadders

New member
Aug 16, 2008
3,796
0
0
darthzew said:
Screw PETA.

They're a bunch of offensive eco-terrorist-supporting self-righteous idiotic hypocrites.

I am pro the ethical treatment of animals just like anyone else, but I am not pro PETA. The only thing I feel I need to post is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ijLulwUTY

It's an episode of Penn & Teller: Bullshit where they examine PETA. If you can spare fifteen minutes, watch it. I present this and rest my case.
YES! You pretty much wrote my post for me.

Thank you.

I implore people to watch that video, and if you can, find the full 30min episode, it is most certainly worth the watch. Here is the first part: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0exLa6saV9o&feature=related
 

BlueMage

New member
Jan 22, 2008
715
0
0
mrx19869 said:
- as humans we need to be able to live sustainably, with balance in nature
-as humans its my God given right to eat animals
-PETA is on the outside a great organization, however like many organization they are filled with crazy people who would hurt a man, woman, or child, but not an animal.

-now big on to big steaks
-one to eat, the other to slap in the face of anybody who tries to take my first steak away from me
Assumption: God exists

Agema said:
I have no inherent dislike of animal rights groups, although I disagree with them on many points. However many such groups, including PETA, go about their business in a way I find completely objectionable.

Most seriously, whilst PETA have not funded terrorist animal rights groups themselves, they have given money to individuals accused of animal rights terrorism to do stuff like pay their legal fees when they've been caught. That might be legally acceptable, but it amounts to ethical support of terrorism. Generally, they regularly shown a lack of respect for fellow humans over issues such as slavery, mass murder and women's rights. I don't think humans need to be insensitively and hurtfully exploited in order to advance animal rights.
You may not be aware, but slavery, mass murder and women's rights are (in civilised countries) either quite established as illegal and inhumane or, in the case of women's rights, a non-issue (civilised countries are meritocracies folks - those who are capable get their just reward, regardless of sex, religion, race or orientation)
 

Ghostkai

New member
Jun 14, 2008
1,170
0
0
Delicious said:
They spend so much money on propaganda that they can't afford to keep the pets under their protection alive.

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

http://blog.peta.org/archives/adoption/

Yeah, fuck them.
Jesus Christ, whats wrong with these people.

Yeah, fuck them.
 

The_Prophet

New member
Sep 3, 2008
1,494
0
0
Doug said:
Indeed. Also, this link (I think I got it elsewhere on this site, but can't remember who) http://petakillsanimals.com/article_detail.cfm?article=134
That's cruel... I'm going to wage a private war on PETA.