So, I'm dating my cousin now... Yeah...

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BoxCutter

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Highly disturbing indeed. Goofing around about that kind of crap when you are younger is fine I suppose, but actually dating a family member is extremely odd.

Makes my skin crawl. Annnnnd it will be on my mind for the rest of the night now, fantastic...
 

TheMadTypist

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Paddle faster Earl, I can hear banjos!

But seriously, there are issues here you should examine closely:

You're both young. very young, and this relationship may or may not wind up lasting. Now I know that there's the possibility you two are a match made in heaven, but the fallout with your family will likely be pretty permanent, even if the relationship isn't.

You're not related by direct blood, if I understand what you said about an adoption higher up the family tree, but you'll still be dealing with the social stigma of something considered strictly taboo in our society, and it's likely that's all acquaintances are going to see in you. Might make things tougher for you later on, if you two stay together.

Really, you might not even wind up liking each other, but you'll still see one another at family reunions and such. Constant exposure to one of your ex's can have a negative impact on later relationships, not to mention how a woman you're courting in the future might react to the news you were with your cousin.

If you absolutely must, if there's no going back, then go out on the DL for now, and if the relationship is successful for, say, two years(EDIT alright maybe that's a bit much but some nice time to see if this is the sorta thing that'll last. Six months, minimum.), then start talking about sitting down with your parents and giving them the scoop. No sense stirring up trouble if this falls apart after a week.

But if you have a choice at this point, get the hell out now, I've seen a series of events similar to what you describe go down and it got pretty ugly near the end.
 

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It seems like you have put a lot of thought into this and how it will/could work out so really I don't see anything wrong with it. Given the genetics, it sounds like it might be more of a socially ackward thing than an actual health issue should things progress to that point. You're young yet so just let things go and see where you end up.
 

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1) The risk of genetic defect showing up in 1st cousin offspring are GREATLY exaggerated. Yes, there IS some increased risk, no question, but it's minor. In fact, the increased risk level of birth defect for first cousins is about the same as the increased risk level for a mother over the age of 40; in both cases, about 2% above baseline (3% being baseline, so 5% for first cousins/mother over 40). Note that because of the nature of genetics and powers of 2, this is one of those things that is really bad for full siblings, sort of bad for half siblings, and not really all that bad for 1st cousins, and rapidly falls off to insignificance after 2nd cousins. Now there IS some risk when the practice is repeated generation after generation, because of the potential to accumulate rare genetics over many generations.

2) Socially, the mores against 2nd or remoter cousin marriage and the bleed over of that into incestual overtones are relatively new. Really only in the mid 1800s did this become seen as a social taboo. 1st cousin marriage has always been a bit more iffy and verging close to incest, but again, really only in the 1800s did it become the super hot-button issue that it seems to be today.

3) While #2 might make you feel better, it won't reduce the amount of discrimination and awkwardness you will face in the modern social settings. And the reality is that this kind of pressure can absolutely destroy a relationship. It's hard enough to have a successful relationship with nothing stacked against you :) Not that I'd suggest what you should do, one way or the other, simply that you should remember that it is ALWAYS going to make things hard. Of course, some loves are worth the effort...
 

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StriderShinryu said:
It seems like you have put a lot of thought into this and how it will/could work out so really I don't see anything wrong with it. Given the genetics, it sounds like it might be more of a socially ackward thing than an actual health issue should things progress to that point. You're young yet so just let things go and see where you end up.
Actually, it has not really be appreciably thought out in the slightest, if you read up on it yesterday. It's been about what the family will think the entire time, with only the slight step forward of actually approaching the cousin.
 

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This is one of those things where you don't get into it unless you fucking love her. And I mean it. Fucking Romance movie loving to, not just high school love. This is something you got to say, "I am definitely going to spend the rest of my life with her" kind of love.

If this gets public and the relationship doesnt last to long, you are screwed. Socially and mentally.
 

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Rubashov said:
Sacman said:
Rubashov said:
Sacman said:
numbersix1979 said:
Well if you're not related by blood and it's adoption . . . I mean don't get me wrong, people in your family might be a bit off-put by it but I don't really think it's such a big deal if you both really care about each other if it's not blood.
well it's not completely blood but there is some because it happened a ways back it's hard to explain...
...Huh?

So...do you or don't you two share common biological ancestry at a relatively recent point in your genetic histories?

If the answer to this question is no, then you aren't cousins and the fact that you are dating isn't any of anyone else's damn business.

If the answer is yes...well, it still isn't any of anyone else's damn business, but you might want to avoid having children together.
Her name is Alison and will be referred to as such because the she/her thing is kind of confusing especially when going into detail...
Let's see here her grandmother was adopted into the family but was already somewhat related to us from a ways back and than she had Alison's mother and then she had Alison...
Okay, so the grandmother was some sort of distant relation who was brought into the family via adoption. I'm assuming that this made her grandmother the adopted sister of your grandmother? Which would make Alison your second "cousin". However, since her grandmother wasn't actually your grandmother's sister, the closest possible biological relationship Alison could have with you would be third cousin. And since you only said her grandmother was "somewhat" related to the family, suspect the relationship is actually considerably more distant than that.

...Yeah, I don't think you really have anything to worry about. Genetically, at least.
I concur. After three or four generations the your genetics are pretty well scrambled enough to avoid any serious weirdness, baring any extremely aggressive genetic defects. It's when it's your father's brother's daughter that problems start coming up.

On that subject, two of my brothers are married two sisters, so family trees get weird from time to time just to mess with people later on, without actually indicating anything horribly wrong.
 

Sacman

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Dango said:
Sacman said:
Dango said:
Well I guess if no one else in the family has a problem with it, just go with it, for now.
but that's the problem I'm not sure if they will or won't...
Well, they will, very unfortunate for you, but true.
Did you change your name? I thought it used to be like Sennius or something... unless your a different person with the same avatar...
 

LongAndShort

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Don't tell your family. This will seriously fuck up your relationship with them and between them.

I'll leave the rest up to you.
 

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Sacman said:
Dango said:
Sacman said:
Dango said:
Well I guess if no one else in the family has a problem with it, just go with it, for now.
but that's the problem I'm not sure if they will or won't...
Well, they will, very unfortunate for you, but true.
Did you change your name? I thought it used to be like Sennius or something... unless your a different person with the same avatar...
Nope, changed it, this one is the name I use for most stuff now. It did used to be Sennius.
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
Rubashov said:
Ultratwinkie said:
"you know you're a redneck when you go to family reunions to pick up women" - jeff foxworthy

if you're SERIOUS about it... well i am sorry to say you're mentally ill and there is nothing anyone can do. you NEVER date family no matter how connected you are. i know california is an open minded state that crosses the line to idiocy but dating family is TOO out there even for california.
Except they're not genetically related, or at least no more so than any random stranger you meet in a bar could be; the only reason they're aware of their distant genetic relation is because the girl's grandmother, who was distantly related to the family, was brought in through adoption.
family is family. simple as that.
Well, no, it's really not. Every human is descended from a fairly small pool of common ancestors; by your standards, no one should ever date anyone, period.
 

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Sacman said:
numbersix1979 said:
Well if you're not related by blood and it's adoption . . . I mean don't get me wrong, people in your family might be a bit off-put by it but I don't really think it's such a big deal if you both really care about each other if it's not blood.
well it's not completely blood but there is some because it happened a ways back it's hard to explain...
Isn't there SOME blood between everyone, theoretically?
 

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Tdc2182 said:
This is one of those things where you don't get into it unless you fucking love her. And I mean it. Fucking Romance movie loving to, not just high school love. This is something you got to say, "I am definitely going to spend the rest of my life with her" kind of love.

If this gets public and the relationship doesnt last to long, you are screwed. Socially and mentally.
I do have strong feelings for her and I never really had fun dating it was just one disappointment after another so I really do want to make this last...
 

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Sacman said:
monstersquad said:
How closely related are you exactly? Because I think your family(ies) would find that to be an extremely uncomfortable to be around. But hey youse guys are young, so it's not entirely the end of the world and it sounds like your respective families aren't really that close, if you haven't seen her in a while.
In perspective, I once hooked up with my cousin, but she was my mom's half-brother's stepdaughter (I'm not making this up), so there was no blood relation (not a big deal) but the creep factor was there at least minimally, so we kept it somewhat hush-hush. Also, marrying your first cousin is legal here in Manitoba(Canada) too.
RedPandaMan said:
How close of a cousin? Genetically, at around 4 or 5 it's okay, just a social taboo.
Were not related by blood but we are fairly close due to some adoption that happened farther up the family tree...
I'd go for it then.
It really doesn't seem that bad.
 

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Your grandparents were 3rd cousins. Yeah, you guys are definitely far enough apart. I'm surprised people that distant are even considered related.