So Prop. 19 didnt go through (the one about Legalizing Marijuana)

[TheLaofKazi]

I'm pretty disappointed it didn't pass. Unfortunately I couldn't vote for it, because I don't live in California and aren't old enough to vote anyway. Same with the election results here where I live in Michigan. Mostly Republican, absolutely no independents. Sigh...

 

[Shadowkire]

Marijuana is pointless, like alcohol or cigarettes. Doing any of them is stupid.

Hey lets all judge people by stuff we haven't tried. That's a good way to live life.

How about it's fun? It's funny? It makes for more interesting stories? It lets you relax? It makes you more creative? It basically enhances everything?
Marijuana at least. Cigarettes I don't like, but I'm not going to call them stupid. And alcohol is the bomb.com, when done in moderation.

How about it has over 450 toxic chemicals in it that kill you

Oh wow, something that can kill me? we should make sure it stays illegal, and ban the other things that can kill people: the sun, electronic objects within 50ft of water, electronic objects in general, the air in a city, the air in most office buildings(seriously its like working in a coal mine), caffeine, cars, planes, trains, guns, insects that can carry diseases, rodents that can carry diseases, processed foods in general, many of which contain some of the same toxic chemicals you didn't cite but merely numbered, nearly all pharmaceutical drugs, alcohol, excessive activity which can damage your body, lack of activity which can destroy your body, all animals and plants with pollens that trigger allergic reactions, swords, knives, hatchets and axes, pointy sticks, laser printers(they help make office building air become extremely toxic), the screen you are reading this on, and everything else in the world besides other humans, who need to be handled on a case by case basis.

The world is dangerous, you will die, get over it.

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more on topic: OP, it wasn't as simple as "the bill has passed, now we have money!"

It was more like: "the bill has passed, now we can get a tiny bit of revenue that wont solve our problems at all until we get the illegal sellers to go legal which will be difficult because we don't know who or where they are and if we did they would be in jail anyway for breaking the law previously, so lets hope the federal government, which still has pot banned, doesn't step in and tear up the bill between now and when we can actually make enough money for any of this to be worth it."

 

[TheLaofKazi]

ON the note of pot I'm apathetic to whether it gets the green or the red light, since I don't smoke up. I would have probably voted no, since dealing with the open pot heads being idiots under the viel of "Hey man, pot is legal" would get annoying. I'm looking at it in a short term sense though, as the moment pot became legal, every stoner in montreal (ALOT OF THEM) would be smoking up 24/7, going to work stoned, going to school stoned, and I don't really wanna deal with that, thought I'm sure it would calm down after a bit

Considering all the larger issues at hand that have a significant impact on you, and pretty much everyone around you, don't you think it's kind of silly to decide as so because of "people being annoying."?

I don't smoke weed either, or do any drugs for that manner, but I think other people should be able to as long as they do it without hurting other people, and it should be able to be sold legally as long as it meets certain health and retail standards. Who cares if people are going to be annoying, they always will be, me included. And those people who go to work stoned will get fired for doing so, just as they do now. And people that go to school stoned will perform worse in school, just as they do now. Nothing will really change, there isn't even much evidence that more people will start using marijuana (I predict the casual, moderate use will go up and the extreme use will go down, I can elaborate on why if you want). The one thing that will change is those that use and sell marijuana responsibly without hurting others won't be getting arrested, fined, ect.

 

[Gardenia]

Marijuana is pointless, like alcohol or cigarettes. Doing any of them is stupid.

They make you happy. Doesn't seem pointless to me.
OT: Goddamnit, I had kinda hoped this would go through, and that other countries would follow suit.

 

[The_Echo]

Drugs that are currently illegal should stay illegal. That's what I think.

I used to not really care too much, but then I had my first actual encounter with weed, and... no. Just, never again. I will seriously run as far and as fast as I can if I ever see that shit again in my life. I almost did the first time, but circumstances combined with my morality kept me from doing so.

 

['Stache]

As a Scientist I can tell you that that Cannibis, more specifically the acticve chemical agent THC, has absoulutly no, long term effect on the human brain. In laymens terms it is not addictive. That being said, there are many people who enjoy the effects it has on them and enjoy doing it.
Also If I'm not mistaken this thread is about Prop 19, not being passed. Not about Marijuna's, non existant addictiveness.
So take the knowledge I gave you and get back on topic

If you expect people to take you at your word because you claim to be really smart, then you should try not to make so many grammatical errors. I tend to assume that most scientists know what commas are for.

EDIT: Please, people. I know dozens of potheads, and I knew quite a few of them before they started smoking. Excessive use of pot messes you up, and everyone who has stoner friends knows it. People who think pot is harmless either a: don't know what they're talking about, or b: are too pot-addled to recognize changes in themselves and their peers.

 

[mr_rubino]

Cool, There's really no reason for M

Drugs should be illegal everywhere, altogether, no matter what kind it is.

And this comes from a guy living in the Netherlands, where the dumbasses who actually get legal weed and such waste their time on the crap.

All drugs should be legal everywhere. Why do you care if someone wastes their time on that crap ? I surely not. They can die of overdose for all I care.

lol the world according to you. It's much more complicated than you make it out to be. You think that people doing the drugs will be the only people hurt in such a scenario?

And I still dont care. Everyone has a freedom of choice, and everyone faces consequences of their choices.

Dunno if you've never heard of this happening, but my uncle was beaten and robbed by a bunch of 20-25 year olds who were later apprehended and admitted to planning on using their ill-gotten gains to purchase drugs of some sort (Can't remember if it was cocaine or ecstasy).

Other people are hurt when addictants are available to the masses BESIDES the people who actually take them. What about all the clean, sober folk who are killed by drunk drivers? They did nothing wrong, but have to pay the price. Is that fair?

I have no opinion on this proposition, I merely wish for you to see the fallacy in your logic.

*EDIT*

@ OP

I noticed that in a quoted post you argued that, using their logic, those under the age of majority don't have the right to *****. The thing is, they do; since I was a young'un, I've been one of those guys you see at the mall or on the side of the street passing out pamphlets regarding various political issues. They most definitely have a chance to impact the political arena; they just have to work a bit harder at it.

Meh, and I once mugged a guy to get money to buy a Build-a-Bear for my sweetheart. Having reformed, I now lead a crusade to ban such; despite what some rather irresponsible articles from biased journalists I've seen would have you believe, he did not dump me. It was mutual, and that has nothing to do with it anyway. This is about protecting innocents.

 

[F-I-D-O]

i guess California is still as ass-backwards as ever, especially since it was SHOWN that this would generate tax revenue for the government that they could have given to schools or to fixing roads.

Actually, there is a legal loophole. Until it's legalized nationally, you can't be forced to pay taxes on it when it is legal in only a confined area. Something about forcing to admit guilt. If it was just in California, a seller still wouldn't have to pay taxes.
There's just no reason to legalize it, until it goes national, but then you'll have holdout states, etc., etc.

Honestly, I'm glad it's not legal. Drugs do bad things to people, and I don't want to see a bystander getting hurt because of it. If people drive while drunk, imagine that while high. It's not a pretty image.
EDIT: I guess it could work, educated choice and all that, but it would require a lot more than saying not to smoke and drive to keep innocents from getting injured.

 

[Sinisterair]

Drugs should be illegal everywhere, altogether, no matter what kind it is.

And this comes from a guy living in the Netherlands, where the dumbasses who actually get legal weed and such waste their time on the crap.

You sir.....you just need.....A medal because you are right in every way lol. "high five"

 

[mr_rubino]

Marijuana is pointless, like alcohol or cigarettes. Doing any of them is stupid.

Hey lets all judge people by stuff we haven't tried. That's a good way to live life.

How about it's fun? It's funny? It makes for more interesting stories? It lets you relax? It makes you more creative? It basically enhances everything?
Marijuana at least. Cigarettes I don't like, but I'm not going to call them stupid. And alcohol is the bomb.com, when done in moderation.

How about it has over 450 toxic chemicals in it that kill you

Oh hayyyyy. He hit the nail on the head right here. It's bad for you so let's remove all choice and force people to live 100% healthy lives. Exercise will be regimented law and all food products that contain any carcinogen's, toxins or other nasties will be booted strait out of the equation.

Were you the only one who watched 'Demolition man' and went. 'Woahhh! That's, like such a good idea.' ?

There's this thing called informed choice. And people like me make one every day.

We look at all the shit that's in a cheese burger, bottle of pepsi or even a free range chicken and go.

'Hmm. The contents of this product will no doubt have an adverse affect on my physiology, however minor, somewhere down the line... But let's eat it any way.'

I would also like that choice with weed if you don't mind.

Don't preach to me about how harmful it is. I know. Probably a lot better than you. But I also know how harmful the air I'm breathing right now is, thank's to all the industrial and recreational emissions. I also know that slapping an 'Organic' sign on a food product doesn't mean it won't have been sprayed with pesticides and pumped with 'toxin of your choice' to increase shelf life and sometimes product quality.

I just make the informed choice not to care, because if I was so fastidious to be scrutinising every chemical I subject my body too. I'd be living off nothing but tomatoes that I grew myself and fertilised with my on faeces.

Excuse me if that's not the healthy lifestyle I had in mind.

I'm addicted to soda. Not caffeine in general; just soda. The caffeine seems to do nothing to me.
So can I get in on this plan you've come up with? I lack willpower, and need the feds to tell me what I can handle.
(That's why I think things like chocolate should be banned. Some people can become non-physically addicted to it, so to protect our society, we must not let anyone be subjected to this silent killer.)

 

[rokkolpo]

Drugs should be illegal everywhere, altogether, no matter what kind it is.

And this comes from a guy living in the Netherlands, where the dumbasses who actually get legal weed and such waste their time on the crap.

so also alcohol?
why?

 

[mr_rubino]

Drugs should be illegal everywhere, altogether, no matter what kind it is.

And this comes from a guy living in the Netherlands, where the dumbasses who actually get legal weed and such waste their time on the crap.

so also alcohol?
why?

The majority opinion on this thread seems to be "Because potheads are annoying."
I'm no policy-maker, but I think we can instinctively assume that's sound basis for a law.

 

[Thedayrecker]

It sucks. Yeah.... not sure what else I should say.

 

[Freeze_L]

I dont have an issue with it, as long as you don't smoke it near me, i dont do it and i look a bit down on doing it (excessively at least). I think that it is a light enough drug, and so widely used, that it should be legalized. However right now may not be the best time to do so, the main source of pot is from Mexican drug cartels, and they are a bit of a problem. The US is really on the precipice of war with mexico, and it is not being payed any attention, and funding the Cartels would not be a good thing. It is nice in theory to say "oh but the pot being sold will all be American!" but in reality most of the pot will be coming from mexico for a good while. Let the american medical pot industry grow a bit more, let it get to the point where they can not only compete but dominate the market right off the bat, a little while longer.

TL;DR i think the pot industry needs to grow before we legalize it, because i am worried about money flowing to the Cartels.

On a related note if you do smoke pot, you should be aware where the money is going and what is happening in mexico. If you are not gonna stop at least buy it "Local". Of things i never thought i would say "buy locally grown pot" is right up near the top.