So, Spider-Man 4 is official, Thoughts? Concerns? Rants?

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manicfoot

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Spidey 3 was way too cluttered so I think they should only focus on one villain in 4. The problem with the Lizard is that well... He's just a giant Lizard! He has no agenda. He just smashes stuff up. Honestly I'd like to see them introduce the Kingpin. Played by Patrick Stewart. With CGI muscle!

I kid I kid :p
 

James696

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On another note, heres my opinion on how a proper symbiote movie could have gone down:
In the opening we see the venom symbiote crash land in the park (as happened in 3)

Spiderman early in the film has to confront a new villain in town, The Scorpion, who Spiderman, being kind of a jerk with his newfound fame (pushing Mary Jane away), utterly trounces and publicly humiliates... We see the scorpion's life crumble around him because of this and as he hits rock bottom, the Symbiote we saw earlier attacks and takes over; while at first fearful, Macgargan begins to revel in his new power and chooses to humiliate Spiderman by using his powers and skills as a private investigator to uncover his identity. He does this after a rematch with Spiderman, unmasking him and pointing out how he has pushed Mary Jane away by thinking that with his power he does not need others, and how even with his great power, he is weak. In his weakness the symbiote jumps from Scorpion to Spiderman and taking the form of the black suit.

Falling under the same spell Scorpion did, Spiderman revels in his new power and becomes more and more brutal in his crime fighting and becomes much more animalistic, meaning though he is spending more time with Mary Jane his strange behaviour actually alienates him as he becomes more spider than man and breaks up with him. It is now that Peter realises the truth, the Scorpion was right, he had become weak but it was not his power in the first place that made him strong, it was Uncle Ben's death that made him take up responsibility and become a man, and maybe in his glory he has forgot this.

Forcibly removing the symbiote makes it bitter towards Peter, now calling itself Venom and wanting revenge, without human infleunce it is pure beast and as such begins wrecking New York, seeing it as it's territory. As such, Peter does the right thing and realising he can not stand up to Venom on his own, asks for Scorpions help to take the villain down, thus saving the day and ending Scorpion's arc by making him a hero in the end (perhaps before death, as they did awfully with Surfer/Paintball mask Goblin in Spiderman 3).

I understand I did not mention Eddie Brock but imo, the MacGargan version would be a way better choice for film as he is anundoubtably more complex and allows for two villains in the movie while keeping down the number of plot threads, though I'm sure one could find valid reasons to disagree, as I said, this was my take on the symbiote movie.
 

Marv21

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So Kingpin died in the Daredevil movie???? Yah if not so the Sinister Six is a must!

But comon Maxiumum Carnage would be sweet, the symbiote could survive...go to a insane asylum find Cassidy, combines Spiderman tries to track it down....Carnage gets Electro, Vulture, Rhino (dont ask me how they could introduce them)......wolverine meets Rhino and gets into a fight at the bar with him, Wolverine Spiderman team-up, Insert Iron fist Cameo, Spiderman fights Cassidy and kills the symbiote!


Thats very very basic idea of what THEY should do!
 

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Chapper said:
Still haven't seen the 3rd film, but they should throw in all the cartoon villains: That scorpion thing, Mysterio, Chameleon, that doctor who transforms into a lizard and that yellow guy who shoots beams from his hands. And Wolverine.

Just to kill the Spiderman films once and for all.
This. ^

But on a serious note, please don't clusterfuck the baddies like in 3.
Even us non-comic-readers understand that there are a whole plethora of villains to choose from in the Marvel universe, but for chrissakes, you don't need to cover them all!!!

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Also, fix the relationship between him and MJ.
He completely fucked it over with his prick moves, yet she still comes running back to him.
 

James696

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hahaha CGI Patrick Stewart for the win. Yeah I Think Lizard would be a cool throwaway character just for the opening of 4, but he hardly has enough character to sustain a whole movie.
 

Najarana

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When they totally f'cked up Venom in Spiderman 3 all my faith in the series is gone. How was it even possible to turn such a badass villain into something so mundane and boring. Bury the movie before it reaches post-production. PLEASE!
 

KaZZaP

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I remember seeing an eBay auction a LONG time ago to be a "Its SpiderMan!" person.
 

Booze Zombie

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The fourth movie better make the third one a nightmare Peter had whilst in a car crash-induced coma.
 

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Venom needs a better portrayal. The 10 minutes of screen time he got in the last film was pathetic for what many fans consider to be Spidey's greatest adversary.

Wouldn't hurt if they brought carnage into it as well either.
 

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I remember in this PC demo I tried awhilre back for Spider-Man 2, it had Rhino robbing a bank.That would make a perfect sub-villian in the movie.
 

ROTMASTER

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please dont let spiderman three be about him and his emotional life the whole time crying about something or someone for like 2 hours
 

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Cpt_Oblivious said:
Why???

I thought 2 was too many.

If they make a Pirates 4 then I may have to kill myself.
A clear thinker kills the crew responsible for the pain.

...tag-team Orlando Bloom?
 

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The Eaten Cake said:
Carnage and Lizard would work best, in my not-professional-at-all opinion. Mainly 'cause of Connors' involvement in the last two movies, and Carnage 'cause he's awesome.
Carnage...Just when you thought you couldn't get a character more One-Note than Venom.

Fair enough that you like him though, you have good reason to. But for this film? Not sure yet.

PedroSteckecilo said:
Another one is necessary. They need to end on a bloody high after that Emo-infused travesty of a film was allowed to exist. It made Peter Parker even more of a ***** than he actually is (although Parker can also be a vicious character, which adds an interesting layer to him I think)

Sinister Six? Fuck yes. Hell you could just give me Mysterio out of the six and I would be happy. (Although it's a given they would change his image, which I guess I would be fine with)

But regardless of who is going in, just add Silver Sable, because Silver Sable owns, and should be used. I loved her in Ultimate Spider-Man.

Failing that, Kraven The Hunter. or hell, give me both. Mysterio frames Spider-Man doing something naughty, and a bounty is placed on his head, making him the target of every bounty hunter in the city, including Kraven and Sable? Madness, I tell you! And the fact that all four are incredible hand to hand fighters just lays the foundations for some great fights.

Also for some reason I think they won't use people like Lizard and others similar, considering the influx of 'Grim n' Gritty' that they have with practically every Superhero film nowadays.

P.S. Jesus I wrote quite a bit didn't I? I have a habit of only meaning to write about 3 lines, and going off on one.
 

Raziel_Likes_Souls

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sicDaniel said:
Cpt_Oblivious said:
Why???

I thought 2 was too many.

If they make a Pirates 4 then I may have to kill myself.
If you mean Pirates of the Caribbean 4, it´s official. Coming in 2012.

Concerning Spiderman, I don´t mind them making a new movie - I basically like the franchise and yes, it´s definitly not hard to make it better than the third.
I suggest: Just let him be happily married to Mary Jane and maybe they make a phone call in the middle of the movie, but other than that leave her out. No more relationship-drama-bullshit. Also, Venom and that reptilian doctor as villains. That sand guy from the last movie was really boring. Oh yes and Carnage! I think he´s awesome (I have basically no knowledge about the comics but he looks delicious)
Then they'll have some crap about selling his marriage.
But Carnage must be a villan, along with the Lizard.
 

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GyroCaptain said:
I just want to know what role Bruce Campbell will be playing, because he's f'ing ace.
I would also like to see Raimi return to his roots and use use superpowers of incoherence for good rather than evil, see for contrast Army of Darkness.
I heard a rumor that if Raimi agreed to do a forth Spiderman movie that Bruce Campbell would be the villian and it would be either Mysterio, or the Lizard, and since they have already introduced Doc Connors, Mysterios coming to town.