Sony: iPad Will Make People Buy PSPs

[Digikid]

Oh? Tell that to Amazon and the Kindle.

 

[ark123]

I don't think anyone here actually understands what is being said here.

As I follow it, what is being said here is that the iPad will be popular, and it will allow a larger number of people to play mobile games. People will start getting interested in mobile games. At a certain point, the iPad will be limited in what it can offer a consumer in terms of mobile gaming. Then, those people, looking for mobile gaming fix, will move up to the PSP. It's the same sort of theory that people who grow up playing Mario are more likely to play WoW later, or that the Pokemon fan of today will be the Evangelion fan of tommorrow. It's somewhat reasonable, in theory, but it is also wishful thinking. Mainly because the iPhone would be the thing to do that.

That's a pretty bold opening statement for such a convoluted following elaboration.
No, I think Occam's applies here and he means the iPad will turn people away from Apple 'cause it blows.

 

[Pimppeter2]

I can see where he's going with this, but the way he said it makes him sound kind of silly.

 

[Citrus]

People will buy the iPad anyway because everybody is a retard for Apple.

 

[AceDiamond]

...umm...I have nothing against Mr. Koller, but I'm not sure I'm following his train of thought...

"...grrr I'm soo mad at the iPad...I think I'll buy a PSP, that'll show'em..."

He isn't saying that people will buy a PSP to spite Apple. He's saying they'll buy a PSP because they'll get hooked on gaming by playing on the iPad and then start looking for something more in-depth.

That would require two things

1. iPad gaming to be good
2. the consumer having any money left to blow on systems after dropping $800 on an iPad. And i'm speaking in disposable income terms.

 

[PhunkyPhazon]

Uh...no. If you want more people to buy PSP's then...well, I guess I can only speak for myself. There just aren't enough games on the system that I want. Assassin's Creed, Chains of Olympus, maybe Loco Roco and Sonic Rivals. I don't know, maybe if I had already had a PSP I might find more games that I would like.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

I'm not sure why everyone always knocks the PSP saying 'The DS is crushing it" which isn't true. This is the FIRST HANDHELD to actually stand next to a Nintendo handheld and actually do very very well for itself. Nintendo has crushed all the others easily, but the PSP actually is doing well and it's a great handheld, as is the DS.

I'm never going to understand the competition that everyone puts systems in (well they are in one but people always escalate it) I've got both and I like them each for different reasons. I say one's better than the other IN CERTAIN ASPECTS but they're very even for what they are. Do I like one better than the other? No. I like games and they both have great ones.

Agreed. By no means has the PSP gone the way of the N-Gage. The PSP's 53 mil to the DS's 154 is pretty impressive. Especially going up against a company that has has virtually no handheld competition until now. And I have to say, that the recent surge of amazing PSP games is really impressing me. I'd have bought a DS by now but I've grown out of pokemon and can only handle so many puzzle games. Besides there are already two more versions of the DS coming down the pipeline, so why would I buy one now?

 

[ffxfriek]

I don't understand that logic :S

nor do i good sir. nor do i

 

[WhiteTigerShiro]

That would require two things

1. iPad gaming to be good
2. the consumer having any money left to blow on systems after dropping $800 on an iPad. And i'm speaking in disposable income terms.

1. Actually, it's more that iPad gaming be decent. His point is that it'll get them into gaming, but the games available will be too bland, so they'll look into getting something with more meat.
2. If they're dropping $800 on an iPad (something that I'm sure they could get the same functions for less cost), I would wager that by the time they've gotten hooked on gaming enough to start wanting to look for a portable gaming system, then spending less than half the cost of the iPad on a new gaming system will be a very easy purchase for them to make.

I'm not sure why everyone always knocks the PSP saying 'The DS is crushing it" which isn't true. This is the FIRST HANDHELD to actually stand next to a Nintendo handheld and actually do very very well for itself. Nintendo has crushed all the others easily, but the PSP actually is doing well and it's a great handheld, as is the DS.

I'm never going to understand the competition that everyone puts systems in (well they are in one but people always escalate it) I've got both and I like them each for different reasons. I say one's better than the other IN CERTAIN ASPECTS but they're very even for what they are. Do I like one better than the other? No. I like games and they both have great ones.

Welcome to the console wars. If you aren't on the top, then you're garbage.

 

[likalaruku]

Won't work on me. Outside of upgrading a gaming PC, I have a complete & total aversion to modern technology.

 

[Xanadu84]

I don't think anyone here actually understands what is being said here.

As I follow it, what is being said here is that the iPad will be popular, and it will allow a larger number of people to play mobile games. People will start getting interested in mobile games. At a certain point, the iPad will be limited in what it can offer a consumer in terms of mobile gaming. Then, those people, looking for mobile gaming fix, will move up to the PSP. It's the same sort of theory that people who grow up playing Mario are more likely to play WoW later, or that the Pokemon fan of today will be the Evangelion fan of tommorrow. It's somewhat reasonable, in theory, but it is also wishful thinking. Mainly because the iPhone would be the thing to do that.

That's a pretty bold opening statement for such a convoluted following elaboration.
No, I think Occam's applies here and he means the iPad will turn people away from Apple 'cause it blows.

I was not convoluted. In fact, I was very easy to follow, with relevant comparisons and everything. Also, that's not Occam's razor.

 

[Snotnarok]

That would require two things

1. iPad gaming to be good
2. the consumer having any money left to blow on systems after dropping $800 on an iPad. And i'm speaking in disposable income terms.

1. Actually, it's more that iPad gaming be decent. His point is that it'll get them into gaming, but the games available will be too bland, so they'll look into getting something with more meat.
2. If they're dropping $800 on an iPad (something that I'm sure they could get the same functions for less cost), I would wager that by the time they've gotten hooked on gaming enough to start wanting to look for a portable gaming system, then spending less than half the cost of the iPad on a new gaming system will be a very easy purchase for them to make.

I'm not sure why everyone always knocks the PSP saying 'The DS is crushing it" which isn't true. This is the FIRST HANDHELD to actually stand next to a Nintendo handheld and actually do very very well for itself. Nintendo has crushed all the others easily, but the PSP actually is doing well and it's a great handheld, as is the DS.

I'm never going to understand the competition that everyone puts systems in (well they are in one but people always escalate it) I've got both and I like them each for different reasons. I say one's better than the other IN CERTAIN ASPECTS but they're very even for what they are. Do I like one better than the other? No. I like games and they both have great ones.

Welcome to the console wars. If you aren't on the top, then you're garbage.

Believe me I've seen the console wars, I just don't understand the fans who have to have the best one, when there's really not. I mean unless it was like Genesis vs Nintendo...vs Jaguar, clearly we know how THAT went. That's called a win for S/N and Jag was clearly not a winning console, except Doom, yum.

 

[WhiteTigerShiro]

Believe me I've seen the console wars, I just don't understand the fans who have to have the best one, when there's really not. I mean unless it was like Genesis vs Nintendo...vs Jaguar, clearly we know how THAT went. That's called a win for S/N and Jag was clearly not a winning console, except Doom, yum.

Eh, it's fanboyism. Near as I can tell it's basic human nature, as I see the same thing just about anywhere I go. Be it sports teams (sports fanatics and gamers have more in common than either side would care to admit, actually), restaurants, name brands, books... you name it. If there's two different sides to take, there's some group out there debating over which side is better than the other.

 

[rainman2203]

But...but... Steve Jobs said the iPad is a "magical and revolutionary device at an unbelievable price" He can't be wrong, right? After all, all the other apple gadgets are just so awesome and hip and... hip.

As retarded as the iPad sounds, Apple's rabid fanbase of trendy hipsters will no doubt empty their parent's bank accounts to help line Steve Job's gold toilet with platinum.

I, meanwhile, will be saving up my pennies to nab a Kindle.

 

[Kyprioth]

While it's true that PSP sales have grown year on year since the release of the iPhone in 2007, with nearly 42 million units sold, according to Sony's official figures.

I'm not trying to be rude, but you have to be more careful with your sentence structure. This is a dependent clause, not a sentence.

I don't think I'd ever buy an iPad. Even the Apple fanbois at MacRumors have mixed opinions about this product.

 

[AceDiamond]

That would require two things

1. iPad gaming to be good
2. the consumer having any money left to blow on systems after dropping $800 on an iPad. And i'm speaking in disposable income terms.

1. Actually, it's more that iPad gaming be decent. His point is that it'll get them into gaming, but the games available will be too bland, so they'll look into getting something with more meat.
2. If they're dropping $800 on an iPad (something that I'm sure they could get the same functions for less cost), I would wager that by the time they've gotten hooked on gaming enough to start wanting to look for a portable gaming system, then spending less than half the cost of the iPad on a new gaming system will be a very easy purchase for them to make.

That's assuming people don't make bad purchasing decisions on a consistent basis. Also again it's a cost-benefit issue. If you are somehow happy with the gaming experience an iPad gives you (can't imagine how, but let's just theorize here), then you won't see any reason to spend $170 on something that has less battery life, a smaller screen, and relies partially on disc-based media. Unless of course they are so bad at purchase decisions that they blow money on a PSPGo assuming the cursed thing still exists at that point.

Also, one has to consider the potential customer's video game-related purchasing budget (which assumes a lot in that they bought the iPad with the intent to take advantage of the apps it could provide including games). For example, I personally, in this generation of consoles, have spent $750 (Xbox 360 Pro, Wii, Nintendo DS) on systems alone. It makes zero sense for me to spend money on anything else at this point even if I did have the money for it. You're right that people who buy iPads probably have a lot more money to throw around but seeing as how just about everybody has an iPhone it shows that financial security will take a backseat to having the hip, trendy object. Though I've yet to see a hobo with an iPod.

I'm not sure why everyone always knocks the PSP saying 'The DS is crushing it" which isn't true. This is the FIRST HANDHELD to actually stand next to a Nintendo handheld and actually do very very well for itself. Nintendo has crushed all the others easily, but the PSP actually is doing well and it's a great handheld, as is the DS.

I'm never going to understand the competition that everyone puts systems in (well they are in one but people always escalate it) I've got both and I like them each for different reasons. I say one's better than the other IN CERTAIN ASPECTS but they're very even for what they are. Do I like one better than the other? No. I like games and they both have great ones.

Welcome to the console wars. If you aren't on the top, then you're garbage.

More like "Welcome to the console wars. If you were leading the market in 2002 you're always going to be leading the market, no matter what the real numbers say"

The reason, I think, the OP had the jab about the DS outselling the PSP in there, is because it's an unsurprisingly egotistical comment from Sony to say that the logical step in portable gaming is from an iPad to a PSP, as if the PSP is the actual go-to handheld when in fact it is a distant second in a field of two. Yes, the PSP has done well and survived against the DS. Up until the iPhone came out it had 1/3 of the handheld market. That is unprecedented. It did not, however, knock Nintendo off its perch which is what I'm sure they were aiming for as that's how competition works. One of the primary reasons for why the PSP has done so well, I think, is that Sony's fanbase in general is a lot like Apple's. Fanatically devoted and will buy anything no matter how bad the ad campaign or how bad the hardware. I'm not saying brand loyalty is bad. I am saying that blind brand loyalty is bad, and I've seen it happen in every part of the gaming community. I myself used to be guilty of it, of course I was only 10 years old and soon learned better. Anyway, up until the PSP-3000 one could say Sony was doing a lot of things wrong. One could contend they still are doing things wrong in regards to the PSP. For all the wrong they've done and continue to do, enough people have been able to purchase and enjoy the PSP on its good points (and they do exist) for it to remain competitive, in spite of Sony trying really hard to sabotage their own product (PSPGo being the latest attempt).

Of course even without that comment in the OP this debate would still happen because it always happens.

One final thought, in all fairness, given that the iPad is essentially a bigger iPod touch with no new features, one could point out that both Nintendo and Sony are guilty of releasing iterations of their handhelds that really do nothing (Nintendo DS XL, PSPGo). The only difference being that neither of them are charging $800 for it.

 

[MrBrightside919]

Sure it will...

 

[Doug]

...umm...I have nothing against Mr. Koller, but I'm not sure I'm following his train of thought...

"...grrr I'm soo mad at the iPad...I think I'll buy a PSP, that'll show'em..."

Indeedie - one has to wonder what logical train of thought brought him to this conclusion, and where it was derailed.

 

[FROGGEman2]

I have a few concerns about the iPad.

It mixes the interface of a phone... with the size of a computer.

Am I the only one not getting this?

 

[Lord George]

When I want a deeper richer gaming experience I'll reach for my PC or 360, the whole point of portable gaming is that its simple and usually quite a shallow experience because no-one plays long proper games while travelling around.