Spartan Vs Astartes
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the Astartes,
Chainsword>puney little light sword
I never played Warhammer 40K but I do know what a chainsword is.
Chainsword>puney little light sword
I never played Warhammer 40K but I do know what a chainsword is.
First thing to say is that the Space Marines are very human, just genetically modified (Again, a lot of people apparently haven't read any of the Space Marine backstories..) And so what if Master Chief could fire his assault rifle and move? The Space Marines would literally just laugh at him as the low caliber bullets (Remember, these rifles can be fired by a UNSC Marine. If a Guardsman took a Space Marine's bolter and fired it, it would break is arm) were repelled by their armor. Sure, the Energy Sword would destroy a Chainsword, but how would he even get close? A Space Marine is a deadeye shot, firing with a boltgun that literally explodes after penetrating the body in order to do the most damage.MrJKapowey said:
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The Chief was severely wounded when this happened, I'm pretty sure he had several broken ribs and broken legs? Something like that. Either way, the Chief didn't make any sort of save. He took wounds. A Space Marine could take that air strike with his armor save.
In addition, it's laughable that you say the Space Marines are dishonourable. The only way that happens is if they are corrupted by Chaos, which happens extremely rarely. The Space Marines are the most disciplined, courageous, and by far the most devoted to their cause.
I also chuckle at your Imperial Guard prejudice. The Guard - at least most - are a bunch of cowards. The only ones with a backbone are the Cadians. If a Guardsman saw what a Space Marine has, they would either run, or just go completely nutters.
Have you even read any of the codices?
Look at that, LOOK AT IT. That s why Spartans would win. I mean they FLIP in the air.
NOTE: I have never played a 40K game, nor now anything about their universe. I'm just adding full to a fire.
The Chiefs primary advantage is that he's neurally linked with a sophisticated artificial intelligence and his reflexes.
I would imagine in a cluttered environment the spartan would have the edge given that he would be able to obtain better firing positions more frequently, make effective use of motion sensors and be able to "out think" an Astartes due to a complicated AI.
Whereas in an open field with limited cover, Master Chief would be overpowered through sheer brute force.
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I THINK PEOPLE AREN'T CONSIDERING THE MOTION SENSOR (okay thats enough caps) think of guerrilla warfare, in a dense environment all an Astartes will find is bullets in his his, his use of speed and strength would be nullified by having an opponent who knows his position. Master Chief would easily evade him and an Astartes would be continuously worn down. Bieng reffered to as a god won't stop them eventually succumbing to bullets in the back side.
I would imagine in a cluttered environment the spartan would have the edge given that he would be able to obtain better firing positions more frequently, make effective use of motion sensors and be able to "out think" an Astartes due to a complicated AI.
Whereas in an open field with limited cover, Master Chief would be overpowered through sheer brute force.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I THINK PEOPLE AREN'T CONSIDERING THE MOTION SENSOR (okay thats enough caps) think of guerrilla warfare, in a dense environment all an Astartes will find is bullets in his his, his use of speed and strength would be nullified by having an opponent who knows his position. Master Chief would easily evade him and an Astartes would be continuously worn down. Bieng reffered to as a god won't stop them eventually succumbing to bullets in the back side.
It was meant as a joke.ultrachicken said:
I simply pointed out how insanly over the top some of the enemies of the Astartes are. Originally I was thinking about comparing the messengers of chaos (Big freakin' daemons) against grunts (The løittle halo-enemies that freak out if you kill their comander and start crying). But I feared some fanboys would rage about that.
The key problem with the bolt pistol argument is that the bolt pistol fires a .75 caliber round, which is larger than, say the Halo sniper round. In Halo, the sniper downs your shields with a single shot, and kills with a headshot. So one bolt pistol round, rocket propelled round mind you, would down his shields instantly. And then explode, most likely killing him or at least damaging his armor in some form. Even if one round didn't kill him, a bolt pistol has 6 to 10 rounds in it. Also, since it doesn't say battle brother, it could also imply that it is anything up to a Chapter Master.MrJKapowey said:
On a side note, only important SM's seem to go helmetless from what i've noticed. Which is still stupid, you think higher ranked SM's would try to protect their face from bullets..... *sigh*
Side-side note: Guard FTW!
Master Chief vs an astates. I'd favor Master Chief, because 'plot protection and luck' are unquantifiable factors. You can argue the tech and theorize about tactics all you want, but the simply fact is Astartes die all the time, the Chief simply doesn't. A spartan vs an astartes would be a more fair match up, though as a general rule of thumb the 40k universe exists on scales little to no other settings match.
I'd say the chief, and no, not cause i'm a Bungie fanboy, lolUberMore said:
Despite the astartes healing abilities, they are more bulky and arent as agile as a spartan.
Their pistols are pretty much matched in power, i mean the halo pistol might as well be firing explosive bolter rounds...
Where the assault rifle isnt as deadly as the plasma rifle, it does have a faster rate of fire and with enough work, it'll get through the astartes armor...plus the plasma rifle poses a threat to the user as well, if that thing is fired too fast, boom! bye bye astartes... give the astartes a Bolter or a heavy bolter, then i'd change my mind...but for this example, it's the spartan.
The energy sword it practically a light saber, it'll slice through that chain sword in an instant. And with the spartan's superior agility, he'd have no issue's dicing up the astartes.
that fucker took out horus... chief doesnt stand a chance!Gerrawn said:Master Chief vs a Space Marine? Really? He'd have problem with a Kasrkin. Or instead, why not bring a named Space Marine to face off against the Chief to make it a bit more "fair".
Master Chief vs Sanguinius. Go!
By the God Emperor, the Lord Castellan could take one whole chapters of space marines!Shockolate said:Pfffft. No one has anything on Creed.
"What's this? One human? No power armor, no over the top weaponry? This will be ea-Wait, where the fuck did that imperial titan come from!?
CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!"
Quick question, as the last we saw of master chief was that he was alive and floating towards planet question mark does that mean he wins as he is technically still alive?Loop Stricken said:
As wikipedia states on Ciaphas "Passing away of natural causes, he was buried with full military honours?though, due to the many false allegations of his death, there is a standing order that Cain remain listed as on active duty at all times, an order which has not been revoked even though he is documentably dead and interred"
No. They really are.Addicted Muffin said:
I wonder if youtube has a clip from the film to prove it...
Edit: it actually has the ENTIRE FILM [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8-ZbZrXmNs]!
Now how do I tell it to skip to 32:30 to see them leaping about like loonies...
they are talking about adeptus Astartus. the space marines of 40k. meaning that they are genetically modified to be 10 feet tall and have no fear. they also fire guns that shoot armor piercing explosive shells that would realistically be called a war crimeXixikal said: