Spartan Vs Astartes
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Sorry, gotta correct you on a few points here...Fidelias said:
John was trained since he was 6, not 12.
He would rely on his armor in this fight... and he prefers fighting with his armor in genaral. He feels strange without it.
He never demolished armies single handedly. He rarely, if ever, worked alone until after the fall of Reach and the Halo incident. And even then, he had some (if pitiful) backup.
Now, with all that said, as much as I love Halo and John 117, sounds like these Space Marines would win. But that's only because it sounds like the creators decided to go overboard with them to make sure they sound damn near unbeatable. It's why I don't like Warhammer 40k. Too many things are just retardedly powerful. I find it boring.
EDIT:
I just watched some of the video that was posted, and I partially take back what I said... in the books, it shows what the Spartan II's can really do, and they'd tear those guys to shreds. They're just a fucking wall. They're like Hunters. And I saw them running... a Spartan II could run circles around them.
They have the advantage of weaponry, but so do a shit load of the Covenant. And we won every ground op against the Covenant that a Spartan was in up until Reach. Oh, and if they have a problem against the Space Marine armor?
Also known as the Spartan Laser. Also known as the "Fuck You" gun. It'd tear straight through that armor.
Spartans win in a one on one. But I will admit that the Space Marines would outnumber them. There were only 33 known Spartan II's to survive the augmentation process. Way more Spartan III's, but they weren't as strong. Just easier to make.
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And to any of you saying the SM's are smarter than a Spartan, read the Halo books. If that movie was any indication, you're dead wrong.
Scouts aren't space marines they are space marines in training (except in the space wolves chpapter)MrJKapowey said:
Also HAVE YOU SEEN THE SPACE MARINE FLUFF?
"reasonably even" is a crazy statement; look at some of the previous posts in regards to 40k fluff the writers are just going crazy these days.
Betcher's Gland
Phase 17: Consists of two identical glands, implanted either into the lower lip, alongside the salivary glands or into the hard palette. The gland works in a similar way to the poison gland of venomous reptiles by synthesizing and storing deadly poison, which the Marines themselves are immune to due to the gland's presence. This allows a Space Marine to spit a blinding contact poison. The poison is also corrosive and can even burn away strong metals given sufficient time.
Space Marines spit acid!
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Creation_of_a_Space_Marine#Betcher.27s_Gland
This is starting to look like a PC vs console thread. One side using established canon for their argument the other just saying nah ours would win because we said so.
Space Marine, obviously. They're likely to be a head or two taller(two in the case of Spartan 3s) and over twice as wide. Much better reflexes and armor as well.
Not to mention have a bit of genetic material from the only post human existence running through their genetic makeup.
This is before you take in this like their several centuries of combat experience or more, etc etc etc. It's rather one sided.
Not to mention have a bit of genetic material from the only post human existence running through their genetic makeup.
This is before you take in this like their several centuries of combat experience or more, etc etc etc. It's rather one sided.
Two entirely different universes. In terms of proportional badass-ness there could be a discussion.
But "facts vs facts"? Astartes hands down, don't be silly.
But "facts vs facts"? Astartes hands down, don't be silly.
Bah ... Space Marines ....
The universe they occupy is so much harder, grisly, uncaring and overtly cruel ... I reckon a Cadian shocktroop would give Master chief a run for his money, much less a space marine.
The universe they occupy is so much harder, grisly, uncaring and overtly cruel ... I reckon a Cadian shocktroop would give Master chief a run for his money, much less a space marine.
The best spartan is Leonidas
Let's do Dante vs Bayonetta instead, cause I'm not too familiar with either Halo or 40K
Let's do Dante vs Bayonetta instead, cause I'm not too familiar with either Halo or 40K
No, even as a Star Wars fan, I have to say that pretty much anything in Star Wars would get utterly annihilated by WH40k stuff. Sure, a Star Destroyer may be a cubic mile of death incarnate, but, well, they're ONLY a cubic mile of death incarnate. That's like, a couple of frigates in 40k. The bigger ships are Super Star Destroyer sized, easily, if not bigger, and annihilate planets with shocking ease and alarming regularity. And pretty much any army in 40k would be able to take any Star Wars army in a ground war EMBARASSINGLY easily, including the Jedi, since they can't deflect bullets like blaster shots. And also pretty much every form of weapon in 40k right down to the basic lasgun can blast a significant hole in something.O maestre said:
As for the fight between the Chief and an Astartes? Well, as both a Halo and 40k fan as well, I would definitely have to say that while the Chief might be able to take out a Scout, or even a small squad of them if he was very, VERY careful and lucky, a full Space Marine, or god forbid, a Terminator, would turn him into red goo in a metal tube quicker than you can say "Explosive Rounds". The Chief would have to get insanely lucky and catch a Space Marine unarmed, and he would still have to use a plasma grenade, which while it would kill a normal Space Marine due to the cloud of superheated plasma, probably wouldn't kill a Terminator, or even do anything but annoy it. Sorry, Halo fanboys, but the 40k Space Marines are in a league of their own, and the Chief just isn't up to par. The Astartes would take one look at the Flood and the Covenant, crack their knuckles, and exterminate their entire species inside of a month (factoring in travel time).
I'm pretty sure a Space Marine will win, for several reasons. as well as the whole "7-foot-tall, genetically engineered killing machine", his sidearm's a freaking mini-rocket launcher. urban warfare? not a problem, as the SM could just go straight through the wall. technology's also pretty one-sided, seeing as space marines: 41st millenia, whereas halo is only set 500 years into the future. the chief just wouldn't stand a chance.
Chief gets hit by a bolt round. Shield absorbs initial impact and shorts out. concussive force turns chiefs insides into a squishy red paste. Second round explodes said paste into surrounding areaSckizoBoy said:
Marine beats chief to death with storm shield and eats his flesh to gain his knowledge.
Space marine captain spits acid into chiefs face and smooshes him with a power fist
same as above except he uses his crozius instead of a power fist.
space marine chapter master flicks chief to death with his pinkie whilst smiting an eldar wraithlord and turns his skull into a beer mug.
agreed.
Everything a marine can do whilst not wearing his armour he can do better whilst wearing it. He is more agile, faster, and stronger than the chief by an absurd amount.
No spartan portable weapon in the halo universe aside from maybe the spartan laser could scratch a suit of ordinary power armour.
A boltgun fires a small krak missile, designed to explode inside a target. even if the chiefs shield took the force of the initial impact, the concussive force from the explosion would destroy the chiefs insides. His armour might as well b paper when compard to a boltgun. hell, i doubt even a lasgun would have trouble with it. At best its comparable to carapace armour
chief fires weapons at space marine, space marine "stop that it tickles" and then he crushes the chiefs head in his hand xD
More realistic master chief stats
WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
4 4 4 3 2 4 2 9 4+ (6+ inv)
your stats are more ridiculous than calgars xD and utterly unrealistic.
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My money is on Squirrel Girl since we're just putting random characters from different universes to war with each other. Either that or Superman, but only if Squirrel Girl doesn't defeat Superman first of course.
Between the two OP put up, Master Chief. He's more awesome, he would win on that alone.
Between the two OP put up, Master Chief. He's more awesome, he would win on that alone.