Spartan Vs Astartes

[TheRightToArmBears]

Ehhh... Probably Space Marines.

I suspect they're more highly modified and stronger, and besides, Rule of Cool. Spartans look like they're wearing mountain biking kit. Fairly cool, but have you seen all the skulls 'n' shit Space Marines have?

Who cares anyway? Eldar all the way. Puny human minds are no match to the Eldar!

 

[Lawyer105]

Is there actually ANYTHING outside the WH40K universe that could beat an Astartes? As in, from an other game?

Well... I suppose a Jedi could possibly pull it off. Deflect all the bolter shells, cut through the chainsword, and then can-open on the Space Marine. Even odds, I guess.

Oh yeah, and Gandalf.

And Piffany. Nobody fights well with happy faces all over 'em.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

OT: Space Marines > Spartans every day of the week. There's just no comparison.

EMOT: Why is anybody seriously debating this? There are way more important things to be talking about! Like whether Harrison Ford is gonna finally retire from making Indy movies...

 

[teebeeohh]

to be fair i am going to compare a Spartan to a cout marine
draw, if the sout was napping

 

[Azmael Silverlance]

Spartan vs Space Marine? Id say the Astartes would whooop some major ass. But the 2 universes are totally different and its really hard to measure their strenghts.

On the other hand i believe Master Chief vs a Space Marine is a pure Spartan win.

 

[Magicman10893]

right, and do you propose to pick off a space marine with sniping considering their armour (which includes the helmet) can shrug off hits from tank cannons and even survive an orbital bombardment? (hell they often ride drop pods to the surface, in essence they are being the orbital bombardment) and the detection systems in their armour would pick up said spartan from kilometres away?

EDIT: bleh, double post..

I just wanted to point out that in the Halo universe there are regular (as in, not genetically enhanced) soldiers that are dropped from orbit in a way that completely rips of Warhammer 40K, not to mention that the Chief and Noble 6 from Halo Reach (Noble 6 being a member of the inferior generation of Spartans) are both dropped from orbit with just their armor to protect them and survive just fine. The only problem suffered was Noble 6 lost his gun while falling from space.

EDIT: My two cents are that the Astartes would win 9 times out of 10. The only way I see a Spartan winning the fight is if the Spartan could manage to get in close enough to use the Energy Sword to cut through their armor. I assume that it would be able to cut through it because it is essentially a Lightsaber.

But this is wholly irrelevant because you can't compare the two universes. I mean, Warhammer is literally almost 35 thousand years ahead of Halo. Aside from technological dark ages, there is still at least 20+ thousand years of technological improvement over Halo. That would be like debating on who would win in a fight between a team of Green Beret/NAVY SEAL/SAS/Spetsnaz and a Samurai.

EDIT 2: Actually in hindsight I think I would give the Chief a little more credit. It has been said time and time again in the Halo universe that Master Chief has supernatural luck. Despite the high likelihood that he would lose, he would somehow pull some shit out of his to win. Like a building collapsing on the Space Marine as a result of their fighting or something ridiculous.

 

[hawkeye52]

So atm we are talking about space marines (if you are talking about 40K) who fire rifles which average "bullet" is in fact a small rocket. Then also you have the upgraded version of those which is a heavy bolter which requires 3 normal men (imperial guards) to even lift. Yeah theres no question who would win here. Especially considering this is just what a normal space marine wields versus the ultimate hero of the halo universe.

 

[deathbydeath]

Chief. He's actually genetically modified.
Space Marines are only elite humans.

no, they have such extensive modifications, ive actually heard them as being not human, but something superior. and there are more of them.
a LOT more.

 

[DarkZero45]

Even though its not in the set weapons I like to think that there is two words that end this argument

Plasma Grenade...

Still I would totally love to see this fight cos it would be awesome.

 

[Armyguy0]

Can i vote for

All the Space Marines and Chief's armor will do is help the current

 

[kingcom]

I just wanted to point out that in the Halo universe there are regular (as in, not genetically enhanced) soldiers that are dropped from orbit in a way that completely rips of Warhammer 40K, not to mention that the Chief and Noble 6 from Halo Reach (Noble 6 being a member of the inferior generation of Spartans) are both dropped from orbit with just their armor to protect them and survive just fine. The only problem suffered was Noble 6 lost his gun while falling from space.

EDIT: My two cents are that the Astartes would win 9 times out of 10. The only way I see a Spartan winning the fight is if the Spartan could manage to get in close enough to use the Energy Sword to cut through their armor. I assume that it would be able to cut through it because it is essentially a Lightsaber.

But this is wholly irrelevant because you can't compare the two universes. I mean, Warhammer is literally almost 35 thousand years ahead of Halo. Aside from technological dark ages, there is still at least 20+ thousand years of technological improvement over Halo. That would be like debating on who would win in a fight between a team of Green Beret/NAVY SEAL/SAS/Spetsnaz and a Samurai.

Problem is, even if the chief gets into melee combat with the marine, he still has to both hit him, and hit something vital. Other than straight decapitation, the marine is prtty much at a functional level of fighting.

Also in warhammer 40k there is an entire imperial guard division that specialises in lower orbit drops (these guys sometimes do in with nothing but a jump pack let alone being in a secure drop pod). The idea of the Space Marine drops is they ride alongside the lance and macro cannon battery strikes (i.e. they are literally fired at the planet at the same time as giant laser beams and they are directed at the exact same landing zone). That way they can clear the landing zone and provide cover for any anti-air defences.

Even though its not in the set weapons I like to think that there is two words that end this argument

Plasma Grenade...

Still I would totally love to see this fight cos it would be awesome.

I would be skeptical of that even breaching the armour let alone the black carapace.

 

[Totenkopf]

If the Chief had the Halo-sniper rifle, he would win.
But this way it looks like the Space Marines are superior.

 

[Alien Mole]

Is there actually ANYTHING outside the WH40K universe that could beat an Astartes? As in, from an other game?

A high-level D&D caster could probably do it, going by 3.5 rules. Stopping time, ripping enemies' lifeblood out of them through the more uncomfortable orifices, shifting into ancient dragons and calling down storms of instant death, that sort of thing. Anything -without- magical abilities from that game would go squish though. Fast.

 

[kingcom]

If the Chief had the Halo-sniper rifle, he would win.
But this way it looks like the Space Marines are superior.

Whats the penetration of the Halo sniper rifle? If its not capable of punching tank armour its going to have a tough time doing anything to a marine.

 

[Icaruss]

How can you even ask this question their, bigger, stronger faster a dozen times more exprienced and are armed with a hand cannon and what is more or less an wearable hill of cement.Your Average Adpetus would wreck Master chief or any other Spartan preety quickly.Shield and AI be damned.

 

[silver wolf009]

Well, from what I have gathered, solo the chief will loose. But I think that with Blue team, he would win. Those guys were crazy good.

 

[O maestre]

this is a no brainer the astartes live in a universe of constant war, for them to even be considered space marines they have to survive being scouts for 50+ years, thats already decades of battle experience.

if that doesn't convince you, lets look at the universes and enimies of the two sides, the WH40K universe is the very definition of a crapsack universe, there is nothing remotely positive about inhabiting that universe where life and misery go hand in hand. the enemies of humanity range from genocidal war fixated aliens, to chaotic deities that inhabit an eldritch counter universe. and the only thing standing in the path of these all of this crap are the space marines, genetically enhanced psychotic fanatics, made for war.


on the other hand the halo universe is a place where human society can actually afford political strife, in the form of rebellions and insurrections, fighting for ideologies instead of just survival. and the one enemy, though formidable is congregation of space jihadist's, and that didn't even last long after all the covenant split into two different factions one which allied itself with the humans of the halo universe.

there is no debate, sphess marines fight what by any means is an unwinnable war on all fronts.

and yes i am biased but honestly its quite difficult to judge fictional armies, as more than often subjectivity and relentless fan boyism will find a way to justify any point. the star wars community is especially guilty of this. a die hard care-bear fan could argue just as passionately that care-bears are more awesome than the awesome sphess mahrines....except that he would be wrong

 

[Grubnar]

Lets see. The spartans homeworld was overrun by the covenant, an alliance of various aliens (or so I have been told, I only ever played the first Halo game).

During the Great Crusade the Adeptus Astardes, the Emperors Space Marines utterly annihilated at least 5 alien alliances that seem to have been on par to the Covenant.

Make of that as you will.

However, in single combat I can see how the Master Chief couls kill a Space Marine scout, or even a 5 man squad of them. A single Space Marine in power armour, most likely, maybe even a squad of them if the situation was highly favorable (for example, an ambush)

But a Space Marine in tactical dreadnought armour (terminator)? No way.

And against a named hero of the Space Marines? I think he would be killed in less then a minute.

 

[Mr Thin]

Anyone who thinks Chief would win, under any circumstances, has not gorged themselves upon the WH40K lore. And that's not necessarily a bad thing.

But seriously people. The fight would be so laughably one-sided it wouldn't even be a fight. This isn't like Superman vs Batman, where you can say Batman would have Krypton because he's Batman; Master Chief, in all his bad-assery, would get literally annihilated by a Space Marine.

He could catch the Space Marine napping (though he'd probably still be partially awake, they can do that), with his guard down and his back turned, and he would still stand no chance.

Although it's worth noting that Master Chief is probably more powerful with respect to his universe than a Space Marine is with respect to his. Space Marines have to be that bad-ass just to be on even terms with their enemies, whereas Master Chief is one of the most dangerous life-forms in his known reality.

But then, I count that as a point in the Space Marines favour.