Spike VGA awards Mass Effect 3 reveal

[Joshimodo]

As I said above, there are planets you come across that have had all their major population centers turned into giant craters, and their atmosphere's destroyed. The only beings we know of that would do that are the Reapers.

From what I gather, they only harvest the races they deem worthy, and destroy the rest. They probably tried to harvest the Protheans, but couldn't for some reason, so they just mutated them into what the collectors are now.

Not entirely. How do you think the derelict Reaper came to be? It's entirely possible that previous civilisations were able to develop weapons powerful enough to eradicate cities. If I recall, one planet in ME1 described a race doing just that.

Yes, the derelict Reaper was nailed by a huge weapon, but that may have been an isolated case. Sure plenty races posses the weapons to cause that much destruction, but very few would be willing to actually cause that much to a habitable planet.

Not so. Imagine that the derelict Reaper had been discovered and researched like Sovereign was, except it was found during the First Contact War. The Turians would have used it. We would have used it. We know that the Protheans were close (and technically, did) to replicating Mass Relay tech, so what's not to say they had developed even more technology from it? Other races may have co-existed and stolen tech (like Batarians are now), or been a little behind.

The Krogans didn't possess the same tech, they reached the Space Age/Nuclear Age and began a nuclear war. Not the same as Mass Effect technology.

 

[Nimcha]

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Why would the Reapers invade Earth instead of just nuking it from orbit like any other smart being would do?

Because intercepting nukes or losing Earth the second the game starts isn't entertaining.

But it completely goes against what the Reapers are, creating quite a big contradiction of who they are. Just rubs me the wrong way is all.

Erm, no, it doesn't. They've never done that. They harvest sentient races, as they did with the Protheans.

They return from dark space, harvest system by system. We saw what happened to the Protheans in ME1, and saw that they still do it in ME2 via the Collectors and the Human-Reaper.

As I said above, there are planets you come across that have had all their major population centers turned into giant craters, and their atmosphere's destroyed. The only beings we know of that would do that are the Reapers.

From what I gather, they only harvest the races they deem worthy, and destroy the rest. They probably tried to harvest the Protheans, but couldn't for some reason, so they just mutated them into what the collectors are now.

Yeah... I'm pretty sure the protheans haven't been mutated. I think they've only been indoctrinated. I don't recall anything in the game mentioning mutations or anything of that ilk. I think they have just been brainwashed by the reapers to do their bidding.
-Tabs<3-

For someone rambling on about plotholes you seem to have not been paying much attention to the actual plot. If you had, you would've known that the Collecters are in fact mutated Protheans. It's a pretty big thing.

 

[Sniper Team 4]

Nice. Says nothing about the game, but then what trailer does now? Wonder how many of my old squad will be back, and who I'm going to have to replace.

I'm EXTREMELY looking forward to walking up to the Council and going, "I have four words for you. In random order they are, 'so I you told.' Let me unscramble them for you." Finally get to put that Turian in his place.

 

[Warachia]

Yes, but the Krogan homeworld is still habitable(if just barely). The other planets aren't. If I could remember what systems these planets were in, I'd tell you, but I can't remember. But they do explain how messed up the bombarded planets are.

And thats true, they don't say it was the Reapers. But so far, they're the only race that would willingly cause such destruction to a planet. Unless something else comes up, thats what I'm going with.

There is a good reason the reapers would NOT chosse to make them uninhabitable, if they were, they couldn't harvest any more organic life from them.

 

[SyphonX]

Mass Effect 2
Star Wars: The Old Republic
Dragon Age 2
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
Diablo 3
Portal 2

Stand the fack back, 2011 is franchise overload year, and you may want to order a new epic meter, 'cuz it's broke.

 

[Warachia]

Wow... Now Karpyshyn's writing about how the reapers attack Earth...
I should have known, he ripped off Authur C Clarke for the plot of the first game, then the 2nnd plot was batshit insane, and made no sense next to the first game.
Now he goes and pulls this shit...
Karpysyhn really is a hack and he's run out of ideas.
In all honesty... this looks shit, and if it's anything like the 2nd game, I will not be buying it (or even pirating it).
-Tabs<3-

It is very hard to make anything original nowadays, this is more of an adaptation than a ripoff, if you think the second plot was insane, than you just didn't understand or weren't paying attention, I challenge you to come up with plot holes that can't be explained away, and I must have missed that war of the worlds bit where sentient spaceships descend from past the galaxy and screw everything over (I know that isn't in this post, but you did say so in others.)

I always assumed the games were one giant homage to the space opera genre; relishing in some, and deconstructing other themes and cliches and tropes of the genre. That some of the plot points or story elements were supposed to make you think of other works.

That's a very apt description, one that I obviously couldn't get across, thanks.

 

[Daedalus1942]

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Why would the Reapers invade Earth instead of just nuking it from orbit like any other smart being would do?

Because intercepting nukes or losing Earth the second the game starts isn't entertaining.

But it completely goes against what the Reapers are, creating quite a big contradiction of who they are. Just rubs me the wrong way is all.

Erm, no, it doesn't. They've never done that. They harvest sentient races, as they did with the Protheans.

They return from dark space, harvest system by system. We saw what happened to the Protheans in ME1, and saw that they still do it in ME2 via the Collectors and the Human-Reaper.

As I said above, there are planets you come across that have had all their major population centers turned into giant craters, and their atmosphere's destroyed. The only beings we know of that would do that are the Reapers.

From what I gather, they only harvest the races they deem worthy, and destroy the rest. They probably tried to harvest the Protheans, but couldn't for some reason, so they just mutated them into what the collectors are now.

Yeah... I'm pretty sure the protheans haven't been mutated. I think they've only been indoctrinated. I don't recall anything in the game mentioning mutations or anything of that ilk. I think they have just been brainwashed by the reapers to do their bidding.
-Tabs<3-

For someone rambling on about plotholes you seem to have not been paying much attention to the actual plot. If you had, you would've known that the Collecters are in fact mutated Protheans. It's a pretty big thing.

I paid attention to the plot for the first half of the game. When nothing made sense in relation to the first game, I lost interest pretty quick.
-Tabs<3-

 

[Piction Froject]

It looks pretty cool, though I found it weird looking at the reapers walking.
Can't imagine fighting one of those things in-game...

Looks like a shadow of Colossus moment.

 

[philosophicalbastard]

Here you are. This guy echoes nearly everything I thought about the mass Effect series and I agree with him wholeheartedly.
-Tabs<3-
-edit- it might help if I'd actually posted the link yeah...? >.<
http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=7004

Ah, yes "Shamus Young". A sentient nerd that tears apart games with reasonable nitpicking. We have dismissed those claims.

And on the subject of Mass Effect jokes "I'm Commander Shepard, and this is my favourite trailer on the VGAs."

 

[ddq5]

I'm EXTREMELY looking forward to walking up to the Council and going, "I have four words for you. In random order they are, 'so I you told.' Let me unscramble them for you." Finally get to put that Turian in his place.

Being able to do that would even be worth saving his ungrateful ass at the end of the first game.

In relation to the trailer: everything is shaping up for untold levels of epic. But the most important thing is that Bioware have recognized that nobody liked planet scanning, so that will be gone. Everything else is secondary.

 

[Superior Mind]

Why would the Reapers invade Earth instead of just nuking it from orbit like any other smart being would do?

Well the Reapers' motives have never been made clear nor was how they wiped out the universe when the Protheans were around. I doubt their method of attack is to Death Star planets, there's been nothing so far to even suggest they have that power.

I wonder who the new foot soldiers will be, Geth are out as are Collectors.

Also how the fuck do you take down a Reaper when you don't have a spare Citidel lying around?

 

[Irridium]

Not so. Imagine that the derelict Reaper had been discovered and researched like Sovereign was, except it was found during the First Contact War. The Turians would have used it. We would have used it. We know that the Protheans were close (and technically, did) to replicating Mass Relay tech, so what's not to say they had developed even more technology from it? Other races may have co-existed and stolen tech (like Batarians are now), or been a little behind.

The Krogans didn't possess the same tech, they reached the Space Age/Nuclear Age and began a nuclear war. Not the same as Mass Effect technology.

In which case, Cerberus should probably have us hunting for these insanely powerful weapons that can destroy Reapers. After all, we are fighting a crapload of them. A search which would be made easier thanks to Lair of the Shadow Broker.

Yes, but the Krogan homeworld is still habitable(if just barely). The other planets aren't. If I could remember what systems these planets were in, I'd tell you, but I can't remember. But they do explain how messed up the bombarded planets are.

And thats true, they don't say it was the Reapers. But so far, they're the only race that would willingly cause such destruction to a planet. Unless something else comes up, thats what I'm going with.

There is a good reason the reapers would NOT chosse to make them uninhabitable, if they were, they couldn't harvest any more organic life from them.

Thats... a good point. Its probable these planets were already in the late stages of their lives(it mentions in ME2 how some garden worlds are in their last stages of habitablity). They probably just hastened the job since nothing else would grow from them.

 

[Staskala]

Meh, Earth then.
That's... pretty boring actually, but as long as I don't have to harvest resources to build a defense fleet, I'm in.

 

[Irridium]

Why would the Reapers invade Earth instead of just nuking it from orbit like any other smart being would do?

Well the Reapers' motives have never been made clear nor was how they wiped out the universe when the Protheans were around. I doubt their method of attack is to Death Star planets, there's been nothing so far to even suggest they have that power.

I wonder who the new foot soldiers will be, Geth are out as are Collectors.

Also how the fuck do you take down a Reaper when you don't have a spare Citidel lying around?

They've apparently been in existence for hundreds of millions of years. Maybe billions. Plus constantly killing/harvesting organic life for so long would lead them to develope some pretty advanced weapons. Plenty of races could cause massive damage to planets. Reapers would be the only ones who would willingly do it. Although as said above they'd probably just do it to planets that wouldn't provide anymore life.

And I too wonder what the new foot soldiers will be.

 

[ModsDeleteThisAccountPlease]

Why would the Reapers invade Earth instead of just nuking it from orbit like any other smart being would do?

Cause when you are a eons old machine-organic hybrid species that are border line invincible, you can personally blow the crap out of others. In short, for shits and giggles.

 

[Joshimodo]

Not so. Imagine that the derelict Reaper had been discovered and researched like Sovereign was, except it was found during the First Contact War. The Turians would have used it. We would have used it. We know that the Protheans were close (and technically, did) to replicating Mass Relay tech, so what's not to say they had developed even more technology from it? Other races may have co-existed and stolen tech (like Batarians are now), or been a little behind.

The Krogans didn't possess the same tech, they reached the Space Age/Nuclear Age and began a nuclear war. Not the same as Mass Effect technology.

In which case, Cerberus should probably have us hunting for these insanely powerful weapons that can destroy Reapers. After all, we are fighting a crapload of them. A search which would be made easier thanks to Lair of the Shadow Broker.

I'd imagine that Shepard no longer works with Cerberus after ME2. Either you destroy the ship and piss The Illusive Man off, or he backstabs you after you clean it out.

I assume the weaponry that was developed is gone, since only Prothean artefacts are really still around, and even then, they're incredibly rare. Plus, Reaper technology would still be more advanced then other race's imitations.

Speaking of Lair of the Shadow Broker, I'd love to have a Yahg teammate. Maybe compensate for their strength, intelligence, agility and size by making it unable to take cover or something.

 

[Irridium]

I'd imagine that Shepard no longer works with Cerberus after ME2. Either you destroy the ship and piss The Illusive Man off, or he backstabs you after you clean it out.

I assume the weaponry that was developed is gone, since only Prothean artefacts are really still around, and even then, they're incredibly rare. Plus, Reaper technology would still be more advanced then other race's imitations.

Speaking of Lair of the Shadow Broker, I'd love to have a Yahg teammate. Maybe compensate for their strength, intelligence, agility and size by making it unable to take cover or something.

Oh yeah, I might not have to deal with Cerberus. That makes me very, very happy.

Ah well, hopefully everything will work out. But I swear on all that is holy, if the Council asks for more evidence of Earth being invaded, I will be really pissed.