Spike VGA awards Mass Effect 3 reveal

[spectrenihlus]

Did anyone else think Dr Who when watching the trailer btw.

 

[VivaciousDeimos]

Wait, next year? It's only one more year till the release of Mass Effect Tres?

Retrospectively it doesn't seem long, but I'm still going to be counting the days hours.

I just can't wait for this moment.

"Shepard! It's the Turian Councilor, we're under attack by enormous... umm, ships and need your help!"
"Say it."
"What? Shepard there's no time."
"Say it."
*Sigh* "Reapers."
"What? But Councilor, we have dismissed that claim."

Can't wait to rub it in the snide fucker's face.

"Shepard, we're being attacked by Reapers!!!"
"Ah yes, the REAPERS."

With massive fingerquotes.

Massive fingerquotes are a must.

"The Reapers are here!"
"The Reapers? Obviously, since Reapers can't exist, these attacks are clearly the effect of my delusions becoming so strong they warp the fabric of reality!"

Though I'm also partial to Yassen's version. And I did not let the council live just to give the turian ambassador a free pass. There had better be some sort of epic verbal beat down.

 

[dystopiaINC]

Lol i was jumping up and down when i saw this during the show, thank god i was alone in my basement or else i would have got some very strange looks from my parents ^.^ so any way i thought i was too soon to ope for a ME3 preview so i was sitting there going THIS LOOKS GREAT I WANT before it became clear it was ME3. that just made me even happier. good, i might go get all the current DLC thats come out since i beat it when i came out, and then replay it a few times ^.^

 

[Joshimodo]

I'd imagine that Shepard no longer works with Cerberus after ME2. Either you destroy the ship and piss The Illusive Man off, or he backstabs you after you clean it out.

I assume the weaponry that was developed is gone, since only Prothean artefacts are really still around, and even then, they're incredibly rare. Plus, Reaper technology would still be more advanced then other race's imitations.

Speaking of Lair of the Shadow Broker, I'd love to have a Yahg teammate. Maybe compensate for their strength, intelligence, agility and size by making it unable to take cover or something.

Oh yeah, I might not have to deal with Cerberus. That makes me very, very happy.

Ah well, hopefully everything will work out. But I swear on all that is holy, if the Council asks for more evidence of Earth being invaded, I will be really pissed.

Yeah, it'd ruin the story if ANY of the races or groups ask for proof. Thankfully, Earth still seemed to be a major human standpoint unlike some sci-fi stories which portray it as a pseudo-slum, decrepit and all but abandoned. This should mean that it has direct contact with Citadel races and fleets, so it shouldn't require any evidence gathering.

Though, it'd be a cool opening to have Shepard investigating sudden silence from this solar system, only to find the Reaper fleet doing their thing. Shepard could turn tail and run, destroying the Mass Relay in the process, to prevent instantaneous Reaper invasions across the galaxy (I can't think of any other way Bioware could spin that, unless they're attacking multiple places at once).

That way they could have some plot section about building a fleet to attack the Reapers, bringing all of your allies (assuming you saved the Rachni, reprogrammed the Geth, saved the Wrex, etc.), finding/building a way to relay to the solar system afterwards, and assembling a team to directly attack Harbinger while the fleets and races occupy the other Reapers.

Just one question....

Didn't we stop Sovereign from contacting his fellow Reapers in the first game? So why the fuck are they arriving at the Milky Way's doorstep now? How did they get out of their dark space thousand-year-long naptime?

As far as I recall, they realised the death of Sovereign/lack of message. Either Harbinger then ASSUMED DIRECT CONTROL of the Collectors, who had been working autonomously for millions of years, or he had been controlling them the whole time, and found out that way.

 

[IceStar100]

Meh more intrested in ES that was a suprise. Mass Effect 3 coming is like the sun rising. It look cool but meh there more intresting thing that where brough up.

 

[Flying-Emu]

What a surprise, the Reapers attacked Shepard's home!

I expected a better plot twist from Bioware.

 

[mexicola]

I was underwhelmed. I mean ME3, great and all but Reapers' incompetence at destroying humans is disappointing. Maybe all we've been hearing about them was just propaganda.

 

[Joshimodo]

What a surprise, the Reapers attacked Shepard's home!

I expected a better plot twist from Bioware.

Would you prefer them to attack an uninhabited, unrelated planet? I'm sure Shepard would be lured* by the devastation of Planetoid X42-II and it's poor 3-man mining crew.


*Yes, I'm assuming the whole assault is both the beginning of biological harvesting and Harbinger's way of luring Shepard directly to him.

 

[Irridium]

Wow... Now Karpyshyn's writing about how the reapers attack Earth...
I should have known, he ripped off Authur C Clarke for the plot of the first game, then the 2nnd plot was batshit insane, and made no sense next to the first game.
Now he goes and pulls this shit...
Karpysyhn really is a hack and he's run out of ideas.
In all honesty... this looks shit, and if it's anything like the 2nd game, I will not be buying it (or even pirating it).
-Tabs<3-

It is very hard to make anything original nowadays, this is more of an adaptation than a ripoff, if you think the second plot was insane, than you just didn't understand or weren't paying attention, I challenge you to come up with plot holes that can't be explained away, and I must have missed that war of the worlds bit where sentient spaceships descend from past the galaxy and screw everything over (I know that isn't in this post, but you did say so in others.)

Here you are. This guy echoes nearly everything I thought about the mass Effect series and I agree with him wholeheartedly.
-Tabs<3-
-edit- it might help if I'd actually posted the link yeah...? >.<
http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=7004

Actually, I read that article befor you posted it and had a lot of problems in it. This is a long post so it is in spoilers [spoiler

]I fail to see how killing then reviving shepard is a rewrite, a rewrite is only a rewrite IF they changed things in the past, they didn't bring you back as you were before, they enhanced you with cybernetics, the reason that the cerberus logo doesn't stop you is because everyone thinks of cerberus as a morally questionable PMC, and if you talked to EDI she would tell you the SEVERAL of the alliance members donate millions to billions supporting cerberus, and your original crew DOEN'T suddenly rejoin you, remember Tali? she doesn't join until AFTER her own mission was complete, Ashley (for me), Liara and Wrex DON'T JOIN YOU AT ALL! That's less than half of your original team back, the only other crew members who rejoins is joker who signed on with cerberus immediately and not the alliance, and if you talk with chakwas, she tells you the real reason she joined is because she has some sort of motherly affection for Joker which Shamus Young obviously didn't do.

The reason you didn't know the Illusive man is because He Is Ellusive. People aren't supposed to know who he is, if they did know who or where he is they could do assasination attempts, and YOU CAN ***** AT HIM FOR THE SOLE SURVIVOR BACKGROUND AND THE CERBERUS OPERATIONS IN THE FIRST GAME. You only have to constantly antagonize him, and they will show up.

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So first he bitches about something that applies to personal preference, which nobody can argue for or against, then about the ressurection, there is nothing to stop them from taking the body, or completely destroying it, and it took two years for them to find and bring you back last time, it would take less than that for the collectors and reapers to mobilize.

The only thing I can argue against that isn't personal preference is maybe they COULDN'T leave themselve a quick path back to this galaxy, no one relay can go to any other relay, they have range, and you can't have relays floating orbiting nothing, or leading to you, you would be discovered before that civilization was at it's peak, and the citidel was the only relay big enough to get to them, that was their way back, through the keepers who were supposed to act, but thanks to the protheans didn't. Also, all other questions that he has are answered by PLAYING THE GAME, except that cycle, which they can explain in the third.

the collectors to start off, ARE NOT ORGANIC. They have most if not all of their systems replaced with cybernetics, they are what the protheans became when turned into something that could manage the reapers, as they said they needed maintenance in the first game every while (millions of years probably). Almost everything in that argument is destroyed when you realize that, and you can EASLIY get millions more if you pick off colonies that they can blame on other things like natural disasters, or other species/pirates WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING. Colonies are not small. Also they are constructing a reaper, yes, you always lay put groundwork first, the first is more of an experimentation before they make several more which are much worse.

Here's something, PEOPLE WERE LEAVING IN MASS DROVES, BUT THEIR WAS ALMOST NOWHERE ELSE TO GO! Did he not listen to those news reports? And even if they could find where the ship took off, how would they identify it? All they could put in is "unidentified blast" which could very well lead to no trace as a report if they don't want to spark public panic.

He could have very easily found a bug that hadn't quite died and disintegrated yet on one of the colonies you visit, or traded for it as he knew the collectors and they will trade minor things for minor things as established earlier, or picked it off of somebody who did trade with the collectors.

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Actually there is a lot that an organic metal can do that regular metal can't like slight self repair, or give constant updates, maybe it is more resilient and light, resulting in less use of the mass effect drive, maybe they make a better mass effect drive.
Everything in this argument is literally nothing more than Shumus not understanding things, who said it was biped? it doesn't have legs, so he assumes, which he does a lot.
I can think of a number of good uses for a massive almost unkillable ship that can grab, like making ship shields that can now deflect you shots obselete, as seen in the first game, soveriegn destryed several ships by ramming them, and the hands could easily have weapons on them. Finally, yes if a reaper is made out of humans it is a human reaper, they are supposed to reflect what species they are made out of, but why have variety shamus?

Here is personal preference, shepard could have said anything, and it would have worked, just insert your own, secondly, they don't approve of destroying the base, they DISAPPROVE of yuoou giving it to an organization that want humans to rule the univers. Big difference. The next part makes me sad though, yes those are all great reasons to keep the stations, SO KEEP IT. There is an option for a reason.

Here is why you can only give it to cerberus: Your ship has it, and it works for cerberus, and it would've given it to cerburus the moment it could, this isn't hard to figure out, if you gave it to the alliance, although I just said you couldn't, THEY would give it to cerburus and you would have the same problem as mentioned, many alliance heads love cerburus and they have the best scientists.

Finally, why would they need more than one? What would be their purpose to build more than one? They believed themselves to be invincible so they thought they could not fail.

Also, you learn of several differnt things that can be used against the reapers and gain several different species to your side (rachni (if saved), krogan, many geth, possibly quarians) if you listend to dialogue, you would have learned of matter that causes supernovas, if you read, you would learn that turians salvaged sovriegns corpse, and reverse engineered their weaponry, and that is why you cannon is so much stronger.
[/spoiler]

In conclusion: You'll notice a lot of my statements are "if you read/pay attention to *insert this here*" and that is the thing about shamus this time, he didn't.

I have this niggling fear that someone at Bioware mixed up Illusive and Elusive.

 

[Flying-Emu]

What a surprise, the Reapers attacked Shepard's home!

I expected a better plot twist from Bioware.

Would you prefer them to attack an uninhabited, unrelated planet? I'm sure Shepard would be lured* by the devastation of Planetoid X42-II and it's poor 3-man mining crew.


*Yes, I'm assuming the whole assault is both the beginning of biological harvesting and Harbinger's way of luring Shepard directly to him.

Sarcasm noted. Regardless.

Bioware could have done SOMETHING more interesting than a simple "Final Act: Home is attacked!" Everyone says their writing team is so great (which it is, in the dialogue department), but I mean... c'mon. How did an ARMY OF REAPERS cross Citadel space so cleanly and without attracting notice? It would have been much more plausible for an army from, say, one of the non-Council/Citadel races (perhaps Batarians?) to have spearheaded a charge against the human settlements.

And besides that, the first mission in ME2 basically WAS "Shepard is lured to random settlement III, wherein dastardly plots are revealed."

Seriously, that was the Elusive Man's first mission. :/

Doesn't matter in the end, since ME is more about the party relationship dynamics than the overarching story.

 

[Littlee300]

So many people in this thread are just looking for a excuse to be grumpy... I thought it was pretty smexy personally.

 

[Littlee300]

By the is the word for a movie or game coming before the original
pre...ferb?
pre..amble?
pre...movie?
I need to know!!! D:

 

[Callate]

Glee!

...And, "Holiday 2011"? That's a pretty narrow time-frame to get out a game of this scope, isn't it? I thought I recalled that part of Obsidian's gripe regarding "The Sith Lords" was that they only had eighteen months to get it ready to go out the door.

...And, glee! Covet covet covet!

 

[ShadowsofHope]

How did an ARMY OF REAPERS cross Citadel space so cleanly and without attracting notice? It would have been much more plausible for an army from, say, one of the non-Council/Citadel races (perhaps Batarians?) to have spearheaded a charge against the human settlements.

The same way they've taken the galaxy over before. Use the Citadel itself as a mass relay from dark space and sneak attack the Alliance itself before they can do anything against the Reapers.

Of course, they'd need someone on the other end (on the Citadel) to activate the Keepers so the Reapers can use the Citadel itself, so we'll just have to wait and see what they decided to do with this plotline.

 

[CleverCover]

The story...god please let it be good.
It was great at first...a little worrying in the middle.
Please let it be the mindblowing awesomeness I've been waiting three years for. Please.

That trailer did more to worry me than to appease me...
Hopefully, I'm just being a nitpicker.

 

[Warachia]

Wow... Now Karpyshyn's writing about how the reapers attack Earth...
I should have known, he ripped off Authur C Clarke for the plot of the first game, then the 2nnd plot was batshit insane, and made no sense next to the first game.
Now he goes and pulls this shit...
Karpysyhn really is a hack and he's run out of ideas.
In all honesty... this looks shit, and if it's anything like the 2nd game, I will not be buying it (or even pirating it).
-Tabs<3-

It is very hard to make anything original nowadays, this is more of an adaptation than a ripoff, if you think the second plot was insane, than you just didn't understand or weren't paying attention, I challenge you to come up with plot holes that can't be explained away, and I must have missed that war of the worlds bit where sentient spaceships descend from past the galaxy and screw everything over (I know that isn't in this post, but you did say so in others.)

Here you are. This guy echoes nearly everything I thought about the mass Effect series and I agree with him wholeheartedly.
-Tabs<3-
-edit- it might help if I'd actually posted the link yeah...? >.<
http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=7004

Actually, I read that article befor you posted it and had a lot of problems in it. This is a long post so it is in spoilers [spoiler

]I fail to see how killing then reviving shepard is a rewrite, a rewrite is only a rewrite IF they changed things in the past, they didn't bring you back as you were before, they enhanced you with cybernetics, the reason that the cerberus logo doesn't stop you is because everyone thinks of cerberus as a morally questionable PMC, and if you talked to EDI she would tell you the SEVERAL of the alliance members donate millions to billions supporting cerberus, and your original crew DOEN'T suddenly rejoin you, remember Tali? she doesn't join until AFTER her own mission was complete, Ashley (for me), Liara and Wrex DON'T JOIN YOU AT ALL! That's less than half of your original team back, the only other crew members who rejoins is joker who signed on with cerberus immediately and not the alliance, and if you talk with chakwas, she tells you the real reason she joined is because she has some sort of motherly affection for Joker which Shamus Young obviously didn't do.

The reason you didn't know the Illusive man is because He Is Ellusive. People aren't supposed to know who he is, if they did know who or where he is they could do assasination attempts, and YOU CAN ***** AT HIM FOR THE SOLE SURVIVOR BACKGROUND AND THE CERBERUS OPERATIONS IN THE FIRST GAME. You only have to constantly antagonize him, and they will show up.

Page 2

So first he bitches about something that applies to personal preference, which nobody can argue for or against, then about the ressurection, there is nothing to stop them from taking the body, or completely destroying it, and it took two years for them to find and bring you back last time, it would take less than that for the collectors and reapers to mobilize.

The only thing I can argue against that isn't personal preference is maybe they COULDN'T leave themselve a quick path back to this galaxy, no one relay can go to any other relay, they have range, and you can't have relays floating orbiting nothing, or leading to you, you would be discovered before that civilization was at it's peak, and the citidel was the only relay big enough to get to them, that was their way back, through the keepers who were supposed to act, but thanks to the protheans didn't. Also, all other questions that he has are answered by PLAYING THE GAME, except that cycle, which they can explain in the third.

the collectors to start off, ARE NOT ORGANIC. They have most if not all of their systems replaced with cybernetics, they are what the protheans became when turned into something that could manage the reapers, as they said they needed maintenance in the first game every while (millions of years probably). Almost everything in that argument is destroyed when you realize that, and you can EASLIY get millions more if you pick off colonies that they can blame on other things like natural disasters, or other species/pirates WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING. Colonies are not small. Also they are constructing a reaper, yes, you always lay put groundwork first, the first is more of an experimentation before they make several more which are much worse.

Here's something, PEOPLE WERE LEAVING IN MASS DROVES, BUT THEIR WAS ALMOST NOWHERE ELSE TO GO! Did he not listen to those news reports? And even if they could find where the ship took off, how would they identify it? All they could put in is "unidentified blast" which could very well lead to no trace as a report if they don't want to spark public panic.

He could have very easily found a bug that hadn't quite died and disintegrated yet on one of the colonies you visit, or traded for it as he knew the collectors and they will trade minor things for minor things as established earlier, or picked it off of somebody who did trade with the collectors.

Page 3

Actually there is a lot that an organic metal can do that regular metal can't like slight self repair, or give constant updates, maybe it is more resilient and light, resulting in less use of the mass effect drive, maybe they make a better mass effect drive.
Everything in this argument is literally nothing more than Shumus not understanding things, who said it was biped? it doesn't have legs, so he assumes, which he does a lot.
I can think of a number of good uses for a massive almost unkillable ship that can grab, like making ship shields that can now deflect you shots obselete, as seen in the first game, soveriegn destryed several ships by ramming them, and the hands could easily have weapons on them. Finally, yes if a reaper is made out of humans it is a human reaper, they are supposed to reflect what species they are made out of, but why have variety shamus?

Here is personal preference, shepard could have said anything, and it would have worked, just insert your own, secondly, they don't approve of destroying the base, they DISAPPROVE of yuoou giving it to an organization that want humans to rule the univers. Big difference. The next part makes me sad though, yes those are all great reasons to keep the stations, SO KEEP IT. There is an option for a reason.

Here is why you can only give it to cerberus: Your ship has it, and it works for cerberus, and it would've given it to cerburus the moment it could, this isn't hard to figure out, if you gave it to the alliance, although I just said you couldn't, THEY would give it to cerburus and you would have the same problem as mentioned, many alliance heads love cerburus and they have the best scientists.

Finally, why would they need more than one? What would be their purpose to build more than one? They believed themselves to be invincible so they thought they could not fail.

Also, you learn of several differnt things that can be used against the reapers and gain several different species to your side (rachni (if saved), krogan, many geth, possibly quarians) if you listend to dialogue, you would have learned of matter that causes supernovas, if you read, you would learn that turians salvaged sovriegns corpse, and reverse engineered their weaponry, and that is why you cannon is so much stronger.
[/spoiler]

In conclusion: You'll notice a lot of my statements are "if you read/pay attention to *insert this here*" and that is the thing about shamus this time, he didn't.

I have this niggling fear that someone at Bioware mixed up Illusive and Elusive.

Apparently they didn't, accroding to them, it's supposed to be illusive because he is morally ambiguous, wanting only the best for humanity through whatever method possible.

 

[Hader]

OMG Best day ever! well, until it's release.

Won't hide that I'm quite the fanboy for Mass Effect, played it more than any other game/series in my lifetime I reckon. I do hope they make this more epic than JUST Earth though, I mean if the reapers can attack Earth like that, well thats cool, but they kinda forgot about the rest of the galaxy in the process.

 

[Tony2077]

time for the war to start in full and we all get front row seats, anyone bring the popcorn or drinks

i can't wait hope it out within the first half of next year