Starcraft 2: Will you pay full price for 1/3 of a game?

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Tony2077

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Iwata said:
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I know this may be a rehash but honestly, dividing one game into three parts and selling each part for full price? Blizzard you greedy bastards. The next step is releasing Diablo in four parts because you have to buy each class. (I hope Blizzard isn't reading this and going "hey, great idea!"). Am i buying Starcraft 2? Yes. When they release all three campaigns in one box and it's under 60 dollars. Until then, plenty of good games out there.
You need to check your head. Your not paying full price for a 1/3 of a game. Your paying full price for a full game. Has Blizzard ever been greedy to the point of selling a game in 3 parts for $60 bucks each?? Who do you think we're dealing with? Activision?
"Bobby Kotick, once head of Activision, was announced to become President and CEO of Activision Blizzard."

That says a lot, doesn't it?
joke???
What? No, no joke.
oh god no
 

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I would, but my computer sucks balls and I don't have the money to get one that can run SC2
 

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tony2077 said:
Iwata said:
tony2077 said:
Iwata said:
DaftJok3r said:
Nimzabaat said:
I know this may be a rehash but honestly, dividing one game into three parts and selling each part for full price? Blizzard you greedy bastards. The next step is releasing Diablo in four parts because you have to buy each class. (I hope Blizzard isn't reading this and going "hey, great idea!"). Am i buying Starcraft 2? Yes. When they release all three campaigns in one box and it's under 60 dollars. Until then, plenty of good games out there.
You need to check your head. Your not paying full price for a 1/3 of a game. Your paying full price for a full game. Has Blizzard ever been greedy to the point of selling a game in 3 parts for $60 bucks each?? Who do you think we're dealing with? Activision?
"Bobby Kotick, once head of Activision, was announced to become President and CEO of Activision Blizzard."

That says a lot, doesn't it?
joke???
What? No, no joke.
oh god no
It's been this way since 2008. Blizzard retains more independence than some studios did (like the defunct Sierra) but ultimately, Kotick is at the top of the food chain.
 

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No, I'm paying full price for a full game that happens to be the first third of a story. You know, like Mass Effect, only with awesome multiplayer that will give you probably hundreds of hours of entertainment beyond the main 20-30 hour campaign for free.

Did you yell at Peter Jackson for making you pay full price for 1/3 of a movie? What's that? You didn't?
I fail to see how the thread progressed passed this post, because this is pretty much the truth. Seriously, I've been playing SC:BW online for years and years, the allure of Starcraft 2 is only partially the campaigns (Which, by the way, the SC2 campaign is going to be as long if not longer than the 3 campaigns that the original and Brood War had). If you really don't think it's worth it, don't buy it. I will happily be playing without you, along with millions of others.
 

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John Funk said:
No, I'm paying full price for a full game that happens to be the first third of a story. You know, like Mass Effect, only with awesome multiplayer that will give you probably hundreds of hours of entertainment beyond the main 20-30 hour campaign for free.

Did you yell at Peter Jackson for making you pay full price for 1/3 of a movie? What's that? You didn't?
This wins the entire thread. theres no more agument.
 

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Hmmmm, I really should try this game at some point since everyone seems to really rage about it. I'm betting the new one won't run on my laptop though :(
 

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But its not 1/3 of a game.

Each campaign is supposed to be the same length as a normal FPS, conventional Blizzard campaign.
In the sense of 1/3 of the whole story? Yea I guess you're right there. But I doubt that each successive piece of the campaign would not be full price. Not to mention that the multiplayer will be updated like the original StarCraft, hopefully.
 

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Fact: We don't even know if this is 1/3 of a game or not. If Wings of Liberty manages to deliver a 20-hour campaign all by itself, then yes it is a full game and Blizzard is right to charge 60 bucks for it. If the game is instead ~6 hours long, then we have some problems (despite the fact that most games are ~6 hours long nowadays with a 60 dollar price tag).

From the initial promises that Blizzard is giving us, it is more likely that it's the former rather than the latter. We won't know until the initial reviews come out, anyway.
 

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Serafis said:
We won't know until the initial reviews come out, anyway.
Oh, please. This game is one of those rare few destined (or rather, pre-selected) to garner 10/10's out the wazzoo even if it turns out to be a pile of shit (which is unlikely, but you never know).
 

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ragestreet said:
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Ok well thank you for telling me that, I had no idea how the damn game was going to play and now it makes more sense why it isn't done. My biggest problem as stated before is the cost of it, $140 for a game that should be $50 at most is asking a bit to much.
If the 1st game + expansions have as much single-player content as three games, why should it be $50 at most?

(Not saying they will have as much content as 3 games, but that's what blizzard is saying, and for now I believe them)
Well unless each game is going to be about 40+ hours and have great replay value I don't think it's right(now I'm not saying every game has to be like this, but if they are splitting it up like this it should be) DOW took me 50 hours to beat on normal, and that was only $50, and I have heard from people it will only be 20 hours, so by that logic DOW2 should have been at least 1 game and a expansion. As I said if they end up being about 40 hours each I wouldn't have a problem with that, but 20, come on at that point if you have more contend planned then add it in.
Very off-topic but how was DOW 2? I haven't played it yet because my computer sucks at playing games made after the year 2000 and I'm thinking of buying a PC that can support it.
DoW2 isn't the same as DoW 1 its campaign isn't a RTS in the traditional since there is no more base building it and included more RPG elements into it.
 

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Ok, just got back from my hatchery (Was making sure the larva were A-OK) and while I was there some zerglings chattered into my ear about how Germany was winning the Universe cup (Which I had bet on :3) Then all of the sudden these Protoss were just, BOOM, there. I was expecting lazer barrage of D00M or something but rather they just kinda dropped off this ugly larva thing... Reaver was it? Well. So there it was, had no idea what it was doing. Then, quick as a Flash of Jaedong, a blue.. thing, just FLEW out of it and impacted the nearest Hydra... little guy was just a crater after that baby hit. So now I was freakin' the hell out. I stepped back and started to get some zerglings after that death dealing slug, then all of the sudden these Terran ships just flew on in, carrying a train. Everyone kinda stopped and stared... They dropped the train off, and were gone. (The train landed on the slug thing thankfully) Attatched to the train was a note, it read;

"Good job derailing this thread, asshole"

~The Confederacy
 

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Percutio said:
Cody211282 said:
tautologico said:
Cody211282 said:
Ok well thank you for telling me that, I had no idea how the damn game was going to play and now it makes more sense why it isn't done. My biggest problem as stated before is the cost of it, $140 for a game that should be $50 at most is asking a bit to much.
If the 1st game + expansions have as much single-player content as three games, why should it be $50 at most?

(Not saying they will have as much content as 3 games, but that's what blizzard is saying, and for now I believe them)
Well unless each game is going to be about 40+ hours and have great replay value I don't think it's right(now I'm not saying every game has to be like this, but if they are splitting it up like this it should be) DOW took me 50 hours to beat on normal, and that was only $50, and I have heard from people it will only be 20 hours, so by that logic DOW2 should have been at least 1 game and a expansion. As I said if they end up being about 40 hours each I wouldn't have a problem with that, but 20, come on at that point if you have more contend planned then add it in.
DoW2 had a campaign that was <8 hours. Or at least it was for me. Co-Op took a little longer though.

It sounds easy to just say, "Add in the other races' campaigns.", but that is really difficult when they didn't have much done for the other races.
I'm one of the people who couldn't let a single defend mission or side quest go undone, so it took me a lot longer.

And I would be willing to wait another 3 years for it to all come out as one, that would be fine, i just don't want to play $140 for 60 hours of play, hell Dragon age was 60 hours and only $50.
 

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Iwata said:
Serafis said:
We won't know until the initial reviews come out, anyway.
Oh, please. This game is one of those rare few destined (or rather, pre-selected) to garner 10/10's out the wazzoo even if it turns out to be a pile of shit (which is unlikely, but you never know).
Anything by the big names gets at least an 8.8, because if it gets anything less the fanboys yell and cry and wont shut up about it.
 

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Buying the collectors edition.

Also who's to say that they don't release the 2nd and 3rd parts for like 25$? Granted it may be a through battle net purchase but whatever.
 

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Iwata said:
Serafis said:
We won't know until the initial reviews come out, anyway.
Oh, please. This game is one of those rare few destined (or rather, pre-selected) to garner 10/10's out the wazzoo even if it turns out to be a pile of shit (which is unlikely, but you never know).
I won't argue that this game isn't one that isn't "pre-selected" to be 10/10, but reviewers WILL complain about campaign length despite it being 10/10 if the game is actually too short, and almost always give an estimate as to how long the game is. In that sense, it should be at least a fairly good indicator for how long this game is, which is basically the entire crux of the argument and nothing else. We know that because people don't care if all they get is 1/3 of the story as long as the games themselves are good and long enough: Mass Effect, Metroid Prime, etc. show exactly that trend.

Edit: Cross genre comparison doesn't work. We need to look at genre average. The average playtime of an RTS game will definitely be significantly less than the average playtime of an RPG. Heck, I sunk in 100+ hours into Disgaea and Pokemon. Does that mean that EVERY game has to be 100+ hours to be worth my money?
 

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Iwata said:
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Do you want two fully functioning thirds now, or the whole thing "when they're done" (ie. At least a year later)?
Without doubt, the whole thing when it's done.
Considering how I've been waiting since grade 8 for the damn thing, I'll take the mostly completed version now.
 

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Buying the collectors edition.

Also who's to say that they don't release the 2nd and 3rd parts for like 25$? Granted it may be a through battle net purchase but whatever.
I'll tell you who says they will release them for cheaper: The developers.
 

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lacktheknack said:
Iwata said:
lacktheknack said:
Do you want two fully functioning thirds now, or the whole thing "when they're done" (ie. At least a year later)?
Without doubt, the whole thing when it's done.
Considering how I've been waiting since grade 8 for the damn thing, I'll take the mostly completed version now.
Believe me when I tell you that I've been waiting for as long as you have.
 

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Cody211282 said:
And I would be willing to wait another 3 years for it to all come out as one, that would be fine, i just don't want to play $140 for 60 hours of play, hell Dragon age was 60 hours and only $50.
RPGs tend to be a lot longer than any other genre. But I assume you already knew that and are just grasping at straws now.
Dude, seriously... get over yourself.