Stopping Hitler

[curlycrouton]

It'd be pretty easy to stop Hitler's rise to power, we should've treated Germany much better in the Treaty of Versailles, and let them join the League of Nations straight off.

The War Guilt Clause wasn't the nicest thing either.

Though to understand the rise of Hitler you must understand the state of Germany in the previous reich's leading up to WWI, then then state of mind during Weimar. With these backgrounds set, it is difficult to see how Hitler couldn't of come to power.

Go read "Nazi Seizure of Power," "Mein Kamp" and, "Hitler's Second Book." It will give you a better picture of Hitler's mind. Then read "Ordinary Men." It takes another look at how manipulation in the Third Reich took hold.

Anywho, on topic. No, I wouldn't stop Hitler.

Now, I am not a racist, I am not an anti-semite. I believe the atrocities that Hitler commited were horrible.

Though, without WWII, where would our technology be? Would we have Penicillin? What other technologies wouldn't have been invented. Would jet engines not have been utilized in mass quantities after the war.

Also, what about the Cold War. It wouldn't have started, would it? Think about all the technological advances we found during those years.


In other words. I wouldn't stop Hitler commiting Genocide on the Jews during WWII, because I believe we have saved tenfold the number that died in WWII by the technologies we developed during that time of war and the years thereafter.

Interesting idea, but do you really think that roughly 790,0000,0000 people have been saved purely as a result of technologies developed in World War II? While I admit I can see how it might be possible, I remain skeptical.

Anyway, penicillin was developed in 1927-38, not, as many would think, during World War Two. It was only mass-produced during that era, and would have been so without a war anyway.

Anyway, I think it's apparent to all that Hitler was a mentally ill megalomaniac who should not have been allowed to be in power. Shrewd and ruthless maybe, but a good leader? Definitely not.

 

[RedVelvet]

If you go back in time to kill Hitler then there is no more reason for you to go back in time to kill Hitler so you don't go back in time to kill Hitler and Hitler stays alive and then we're back to square 1.

 

[Jepix]

I would, but I would obviously fail since Hitler clearly survived my attempt at killing him. I try to shoot him, but he steals my gun and manages to wound me instead.
The last thing I said to him was "It... *cough* was for the jews...graaaahaa *dies*"
Adolph wondered why the jews wanted him dead and started to write on "Mein Kampf"

Sorry

 

[H.R.Shovenstuff]

I believe there are rules against stopping Hitler in place [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitlekz83hawz?from=Main.HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct]

Haha oh wow.

 

[BlackHat]

As red aleart showed us it would cause a war with the russians

 

[Barry93]

Absolutely not, no one should ever mess with time. 60,000,000+ died in WWII and any one of them could've led to even more evil people. You can't stop WWII, it would've just inevitably happened many years later but on a larger scale.

 

[Agent Larkin]

After reading two pages of text for this I was kinda appalad that everyone seemed to thing they either had to kill him or stop him from being born.
THAT METHOD WONT WORK
What I would do is if i was in 1907 I would sell a few small benefical modern inventions then use that money to make Hitler a succesful artist. Now some of you might be going WTF is he going on about? It is rather widely accepted that Hitler only gained his Anti-Semetic beleifs when he wound up as a failed artist in Vienna. He became anti-semetic ,in the same way most people come to hate any minority groups, by seeing the Jews as being better off then him. If I stopped that from happening he could still rise to power in Germany just there would be no Holocaust. Also if im the world at this time period after doing that I would immediatly move to London become rich and enter parliment. When WW1 began I would join the army become a Colnol and sort the war out in two years. I would then become an agitator for Irish Home Rule and what happens from there I dont know. Also I would try to stop the Bolshevik Revolution.

 

[Breaker deGodot]

I'd do it in a heartbeat. Killing Hitler, AND getting to live in my favorite time of world history? SIGN ME UP, MUTHAFUCKA!

 

[headshotcatcher]

If hitler wouldn't have gotten power and ww2 would be fiction, Russia would've taken over europe and Germany would be very poor and have old factories and such. If anything WW2 was good for mankind (If not for ww2 we wouldn't have atom bombs, computers, television, whatever..)

 

[sokka14]

if you think even stopping the whole nazi party would have made the world (or europe, i should say) a lovey-dovey place then think again. also, it's not as simple as just kill the leader.

it has already been said, but if i could, i'd change the treaty of versailles. crippling germany so severely only succeeded in popularizing extremism and fostering hatred.

all these people saying stalin would've done it anyway, first of all it's only hypothetical, but i sincerely doubt he would have been able to. i do think though, that we often focus too much on hitler so we avoid the awkwardness of being allied with stalin.

 

[Baneat]

I would tell hitler to make his tanks with slanted armor and with that once sentance Germany would win the war and I'd be like his evil duke and get all the free pop tarts I want.

But you would recieve no poptarts, because they haven't been invented.

You wouldn't want to return to 2008 because the population would either have reached its critical mass or it would be desolate from some other genocide/nuclear holocaust......

 

[Easykill]

Not for the sake of stopping Hitler. What's done is done, and I'm not that selfless. However, if I still have this power years from now, and the earth is pretty much dead, I'd go back. I'd change as much as I could just to set history on a different course. I don't know how old Hitler was in 1907, but if it's not too late I would try and befriend him. try to curb his racism and obsessive nationalism as much as I could, while keeping his charisma. I'd kill him if it didn't work, because the change wouldn't be enough otherwise.

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

After reading two pages of text for this I was kinda appalad that everyone seemed to thing they either had to kill him or stop him from being born.
THAT METHOD WONT WORK
What I would do is if i was in 1907 I would sell a few small benefical modern inventions then use that money to make Hitler a succesful artist. Now some of you might be going WTF is he going on about? It is rather widely accepted that Hitler only gained his Anti-Semetic beleifs when he wound up as a failed artist in Vienna. He became anti-semetic ,in the same way most people come to hate any minority groups, by seeing the Jews as being better off then him. If I stopped that from happening he could still rise to power in Germany just there would be no Holocaust. Also if im the world at this time period after doing that I would immediatly move to London become rich and enter parliment. When WW1 began I would join the army become a Colnol and sort the war out in two years. I would then become an agitator for Irish Home Rule and what happens from there I dont know. Also I would try to stop the Bolshevik Revolution.

I personally think that the artist investment idea is an awesome one. However it's true that it would be far too risky to kill Hitler. Matter of fact it could have made things far worse, even if you killed both Hitler and Stalin. What's to say there wouldn't be someone much worse to take his place?

Can you imagine if WW2 started 15 years later? You would have had Japan as a much larger superpower, it would have still had control of Korea, you would have had Stalin and the Soviet Union as a superpower larger than Germany (was during WW2), better researched and developed weapons tech...what's to say millions more wouldn't have been killed instead?

 

[Pimppeter2]

Yes, but I'd just make damn art school accept him

Edit: Ninja'd

 

[ElephantGuts]

Even though I'm Jewish, I don't think I would risk going back in time. I have no idea what would happen, I could easily make things worse. I guess I'm just scared of screwing around with time. And even if I did make things better, the world simply wouldn't be what it is today.

Besides, I don't want to live without the internet.

 

[darkless]

Nope, world war 2 led to some remarkable technology you stop that you set us back a few decades.

 

[LaughingTarget]

No point, someone else would just rise to power and we'd be having this conversation with a totally different dictator.

 

[Disaster Button]

I dunno if I'd go back and stop him because there could be alot of terrible reprecussions (I think that's how it's spelled?)

But if I could go back to any period it'd probly be 20s-40s

 

[Agent Larkin]

After reading two pages of text for this I was kinda appalad that everyone seemed to thing they either had to kill him or stop him from being born.
THAT METHOD WONT WORK
What I would do is if i was in 1907 I would sell a few small benefical modern inventions then use that money to make Hitler a succesful artist. Now some of you might be going WTF is he going on about? It is rather widely accepted that Hitler only gained his Anti-Semetic beleifs when he wound up as a failed artist in Vienna. He became anti-semetic ,in the same way most people come to hate any minority groups, by seeing the Jews as being better off then him. If I stopped that from happening he could still rise to power in Germany just there would be no Holocaust. Also if im the world at this time period after doing that I would immediatly move to London become rich and enter parliment. When WW1 began I would join the army become a Colnol and sort the war out in two years. I would then become an agitator for Irish Home Rule and what happens from there I dont know. Also I would try to stop the Bolshevik Revolution.

I personally think that the artist investment idea is an awesome one. However it's true that it would be far too risky to kill Hitler. Matter of fact it could have made things far worse, even if you killed both Hitler and Stalin. What's to say there wouldn't be someone much worse to take his place?

Can you imagine if WW2 started 15 years later? You would have had Japan as a much larger superpower, it would have still had control of Korea, you would have had Stalin and the Soviet Union as a superpower larger than Germany (was during WW2), better researched and developed weapons tech...what's to say millions more wouldn't have been killed instead?

Well if had started 15 years later I think the war would have gone differently as the west probably wouldn't be involved. I say this as by 1954 Stalin was dead leading to Khurschev being in charge and while he was a scheming b***ard he was more willing to be freindly to the west. Also Communist China existed then and would probably go to war with Japan over manchuria. Doubtless to say this war would spill over and involve Russia. America might get involved but it is a big MIGHT as they still had isolationism policies if Hitler never rose as an evil bastard to power. In summary in would more likely be a grand asian war.
p.s. sorry for the wall of text.

 

[Agent Larkin]

if you think even stopping the whole nazi party would have made the world (or europe, i should say) a lovey-dovey place then think again. also, it's not as simple as just kill the leader.

it has already been said, but if i could, i'd change the treaty of versailles. crippling germany so severely only succeeded in popularizing extremism and fostering hatred.

all these people saying stalin would've done it anyway, first of all it's only hypothetical, but i sincerely doubt he would have been able to. i do think though, that we often focus too much on hitler so we avoid the awkwardness of being allied with stalin.

The reason we focus on Hitler so much is that Winners write History. Because we won (and yes Im including supposidly neutral Ireland in this) we just gloss over the fact that Stalin was more evil then Hitler. Its like in the Chronicles of Riddick (The movie) when Riddick is described as being the bigger evil needed to defeat a smaller evil.