Student Suspended for wearing a dress.

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Saelune said:
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To conform is to make the same. Sexism then is an enemy of conformity, thus the school is against conforming.
Gender roles =/= sexism. Blokes shouldn't wear dresses.
Actually gender roles are the highest form of sexism.
You are right we are taught what to wear by our gender the moment we are born think pink vs blue.
Wonder why those ken dolls only have pants and no dresses and that women have to wear veils to hide their faces and men do not in other countries?
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OP, it's MSN, so it should be taken with a grain of salt without a second source. It sounds like the kid's been pushing boundaries at the school for a while; he was tempting them to do this. It doesn't make it any more right for them to do so, but I fail to see how dressing in drag to come to school is really so important. Perhaps that's myopic of me, but I doubt you'd see Eddie Izard in stilettos and blush waiting in line at the bank.
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Boy-wears-dress-to-school-gets-suspended-1429489.php

So that's now four sources. These shouldn't be boundaries in the first place, except I guess the hat thing.
"If anything, it makes me want to be more out there and more spontaneous and crazy," Saurs told KING 5.

The kid was looking for attention, and he got it. He was looking to stir up trouble. I could care less if I see a guy walking down the street in a dress and I don't care if they allow it at school, but he's gotten into trouble for violating the dress code, he appeared in drag and was punished (it was reduced to 3 days' suspension) and then said that this makes him want to be more subversive. I'm guessing even if Moms hadn't complained about her feet hurting he still would have worn the dress to school.
Where do you draw a line in clothing though it's all essentially just a different style of cloth nothing about it really screams cross dressing. This is clearly a case of clothism instead of sexism. :p
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Pheh, the big issue around clothing is disgusting. I myself have bought a blue hat, because I thought it looked nice, and I bought 2 (the same) blouses to go with the hat. Now everyone tells me to change my clothes. because looking the same everyday is "weird". Well I won't stand for this! I can wear whatever I want, whenever I want! The same goes for the suspended kid! The time for being part of the same boring conformist group is over! EXPRESS YOURSELVES PEOPLE!
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Pheh, the big issue around clothing is disgusting. I myself have bought a blue hat, because I thought it looked nice, and I bought 2 (the same) blouses to go with the hat. Now everyone tells me to change my clothes. because looking the same everyday is "weird". Well I won't stand for this! I can wear whatever I want, whenever I want! The same goes for the suspended kid! The time for being part of the same boring conformist group is over! EXPRESS YOURSELVES PEOPLE!
 

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Looks like another school has to cancel their dance

Because equality rules.. if they don't allow him in they shouldn't allow others in.

Mmm settlement money what a nice bunch of dresses one can buy with that.
 

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"I was pretty," said Saurs.
This really cracked me up, for some reason.

My old next-door neighbour got suspended for going to school wearing the girls' uniform. This is discrimination, though. Especially if there's nothing in the school rules about it. I thought Washington was supposed to be a liberal state..
 

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It disturbs me how many people in this thread think it should be considered normal for a male to wear a dress...In a school....with bullies.... It's not sexism or discrimination a LOT of schools don't allow you to wear certain type of clothes that might be "disruptive" only the most optimistic person in the world would not assume the kid is going to be bullied.

That said the sentence was harsh. But I can see the logic behind the dress gate"
 

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Svenparty said:
It disturbs me how many people in this thread think it should be considered normal for a male to wear a dress...In a school....with bullies.... It's not sexism or discrimination a LOT of schools don't allow you to wear certain type of clothes that might be "disruptive" only the most optimistic person in the world would not assume the kid is going to be bullied.

That said the sentence was harsh. But I can see the logic behind the dress gate"
If the world was a JRPG... we could wear whatever we want lol.
Japan is the perfect counter example to this dress BS, but then again it's japan the land where you can make meat from poop.
what you thought I was kidding?
 

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similar.squirrel said:
"I was pretty," said Saurs.
This really cracked me up, for some reason.

My old next-door neighbour got suspended for going to school wearing the girls' uniform. This is discrimination, though. Especially if there's nothing in the school rules about it. I thought Washington was supposed to be a liberal state..
They are liberal. On every issue they agree with. Lol.

Svenparty said:
It disturbs me how many people in this thread think it should be considered normal for a male to wear a dress...In a school....with bullies.... It's not sexism or discrimination a LOT of schools don't allow you to wear certain type of clothes that might be "disruptive" only the most optimistic person in the world would not assume the kid is going to be bullied.

That said the sentence was harsh. But I can see the logic behind the dress gate"
So you suggest we (people) shouldn't be allowed to do anything because someone might bully us? Talk about oppression. "I'm sorry, homosexuals, you can't be homosexual and go to school anymore. Why? Well, you might be picked on!"
 

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Snowy Rainbow said:
Svenparty said:
It disturbs me how many people in this thread think it should be considered normal for a male to wear a dress...In a school....with bullies.... It's not sexism or discrimination a LOT of schools don't allow you to wear certain type of clothes that might be "disruptive" only the most optimistic person in the world would not assume the kid is going to be bullied.

That said the sentence was harsh. But I can see the logic behind the dress gate"
So you suggest we (people) shouldn't be allowed to do anything because someone might bully us? Talk about oppression. "I'm sorry, homosexuals, you can't be homosexual and go to school anymore. Why? Well, you might be picked on!"
Isn't that technically picking on them though?
 

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GrimHeaper said:
Svenparty said:
It disturbs me how many people in this thread think it should be considered normal for a male to wear a dress...In a school....with bullies.... It's not sexism or discrimination a LOT of schools don't allow you to wear certain type of clothes that might be "disruptive" only the most optimistic person in the world would not assume the kid is going to be bullied.

That said the sentence was harsh. But I can see the logic behind the dress gate"
If the world was a JRPG... we could wear whatever we want lol.
Japan is the perfect counter example to this dress BS, but then again it's japan the land where you can make meat from poop.
In certain sectors yes. But may I ask have you been to Japan or is this based on "crazy Japan" websites etcetera?

But it would be irresponsible to let this boy wear make-up and dresses to school every day. Kids are rough and if he ends up not wanting to be a girl/whatever he'd have had the most potentially messed up childhood. They are also mainly exploiting a loophole for the of it.

EDIT: appreciate the video will watch later when I'm NOT about to eat meat...
 

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GrimHeaper said:
Snowy Rainbow said:
Svenparty said:
It disturbs me how many people in this thread think it should be considered normal for a male to wear a dress...In a school....with bullies.... It's not sexism or discrimination a LOT of schools don't allow you to wear certain type of clothes that might be "disruptive" only the most optimistic person in the world would not assume the kid is going to be bullied.

That said the sentence was harsh. But I can see the logic behind the dress gate"
So you suggest we (people) shouldn't be allowed to do anything because someone might bully us? Talk about oppression. "I'm sorry, homosexuals, you can't be homosexual and go to school anymore. Why? Well, you might be picked on!"
Isn't that technically picking on them though?
Not letting gay people go to school? Yeah, I'd say that's bullying. I think.
 

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Svenparty said:
GrimHeaper said:
Svenparty said:
It disturbs me how many people in this thread think it should be considered normal for a male to wear a dress...In a school....with bullies.... It's not sexism or discrimination a LOT of schools don't allow you to wear certain type of clothes that might be "disruptive" only the most optimistic person in the world would not assume the kid is going to be bullied.

That said the sentence was harsh. But I can see the logic behind the dress gate"
If the world was a JRPG... we could wear whatever we want lol.
Japan is the perfect counter example to this dress BS, but then again it's japan the land where you can make meat from poop.
In certain sectors yes. But may I ask have you been to Japan or is this based on "crazy Japan" websites etcetera?

But it would be irresponsible to let this boy wear make-up and dresses to school every day. Kids are rough and if he ends up not wanting to be a girl/whatever he'd have had the most potentially messed up childhood. They are also mainly exploiting a loophole for the of it.
I would say Japan in general cosplayers,and different subgroups,even pop rock bands and such. It's much more wide spread there in general and I haven't been there.
I mean...Nvm not bringing that vid up.
screw it I will anyway
 

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Gotta agree with the Pimp. Dudes attention whoring. Its like this little shit eater I heard about a while ago who came to school dressed as a pirate. When they sent him home he screamed it was in violation of his religion as a pastafarian.
Little punk was just being an asshole so I would have supported the school if they chose to expel him.
Oh and anyone who actually calls them self a pastafarian should be shot on general principle.
"Anyone who does something I think is stupid should be murdered on principle." Oh the irony!
 

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GrimHeaper said:
Snowy Rainbow said:
Svenparty said:
It disturbs me how many people in this thread think it should be considered normal for a male to wear a dress...In a school....with bullies.... It's not sexism or discrimination a LOT of schools don't allow you to wear certain type of clothes that might be "disruptive" only the most optimistic person in the world would not assume the kid is going to be bullied.

That said the sentence was harsh. But I can see the logic behind the dress gate"
So you suggest we (people) shouldn't be allowed to do anything because someone might bully us? Talk about oppression. "I'm sorry, homosexuals, you can't be homosexual and go to school anymore. Why? Well, you might be picked on!"
Isn't that technically picking on them though?
You can be homosexual..you can go to school......but what establishment would allow a student to wear a dress knowing that it would be very likely they would be beaten up regularly causing many problems. You cannot totally get rid of bullies. The boy is 15 and if he truly was bothered he'd wear dresses on weekends. His mother sounds like someone who will defend his disruption in the name of anything.

Many people can't wear many things to school: I can't go to school dressed as a burrito every day because the costume would be disruptive: who can learn English when a burrito is sitting next to you?
 

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Svenparty said:
GrimHeaper said:
Snowy Rainbow said:
Svenparty said:
It disturbs me how many people in this thread think it should be considered normal for a male to wear a dress...In a school....with bullies.... It's not sexism or discrimination a LOT of schools don't allow you to wear certain type of clothes that might be "disruptive" only the most optimistic person in the world would not assume the kid is going to be bullied.

That said the sentence was harsh. But I can see the logic behind the dress gate"
So you suggest we (people) shouldn't be allowed to do anything because someone might bully us? Talk about oppression. "I'm sorry, homosexuals, you can't be homosexual and go to school anymore. Why? Well, you might be picked on!"
Isn't that technically picking on them though?
You can be homosexual..you can go to school......but what establishment would allow a student to wear a dress knowing that it would be very likely they would be beaten up regularly causing many problems. You cannot totally get rid of bullies. The boy is 15 and if he truly was bothered he'd wear dresses on weekends. His mother sounds like someone who will defend his disruption in the name of anything.

Many people can't wear many things to school: I can't go to school dressed as a burrito every day because the costume would be disruptive: who can learn English when a burrito is sitting next to you?
Damn it, hun! Now I'm hungry :(

No, but seriously: certain things make sense -- like not wearing a giant food costume to school -- but wearing a dress is fine. You can't stop people from being themselves because some people might want to stop them. That makes you as bad as them.

I know where you're coming from and I was bullied a LOT, but forcing people to conform to the "least likely to be bullied" lifestyle is just... wrong.
 

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Madara said:
Snowy Rainbow said:
"Anyone who does something I think is stupid should be murdered on principle." Oh the irony!
A) Thats not irony.
B) "Pastafarians" are attention whores and idiots who only claim so just to insult and demean others. The world would be better off without them.
C) Way to take shit someone said and put a idiotic spin on it. You thinking of applying to Fox News?
Well, that's not very nice. A little less hating on people you don't agree with would do a world of good, eh?
 

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So how often do they basically expel a girl for a year for wearing pants and a tank top?

Never?
Didn't think so.

Fuck off, school.
 

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Of course, this is disgraceful and discriminatory, and the school should be publicly punished as such.

But for some reason, one question sticks in my head; how and why was this challenge set? Not judging or anything I just think it's somewhat unusual for such a challenge to be set by someone's mother. Sounds more like something you'd do after losing a drunken bet.