Student Suspended for wearing a dress.

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AstylahAthrys

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This seems so bizarre to me because a guy at my school wore a skirt and people thought it was awesome, and I'm from a pretty backwards town. He shouldn't have worn the hat, though, since it's a universal rule in schools that hats are forbidden, but the dress is fine in my book.
 

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If its a distraction to learning, (and I'd assume it would be, hell even a girl earing a wedding dress would be distracting and hard to maneover around in the hallways) but hats? Is anyone else angry at THAT part?
Hats are widely disallowed in public schools. It's ridiculous that they would ever suspend someone for wearing a hat though. At my school whenever someone accidentally wore a hat in school, they were just reminded that the school had a no-hat policy.

And should a transperson (not saying the boy is trans) be barred from expressing their true gender identity because they're distracting?
 

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I think they had a perfect right to do this. This is not a casual thing a typical student sees from day to day, so it's going to bother and confuse students, thus taking away from their focus on education that day.

School is no place to take on a bet by your mother about high heels, especially if you're a man.
 

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It's socially unacceptable for a man to wear women's cloths. (It has to do with the power relationship of men and woman wearing a man's cloths is a step up in power and other way is a step down and blah blah blah). Schools don't specifically write down social norms and accepted rules because they would take up way too much space and the majority of people won't violate them due to social pressure (especially in high school and junior high school). Honestly the only thing strange about this story is the fact that the kid can so easily accept a challenge that will get him ridiculed for the rest of his junior high school education (at least).
 

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Reaper195 said:
Ah, the US. Land of the free indeed. This is fucking disgraceful that people still exclude other people simply for doing something different. And just to put this on a flat line for the school, you think that it being a dare from someone else it would have been all fine, considering he wasn't doing it to simply wear feminine clothing.

Ugh, I hate this world at the moment.

Edit: And just because of the nine years of being on the net, I finally got first post!
well that's a bit of a silly reason to hate the whole world.also the word free doesn't mean do what you want and still be accepted.
 

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Eh, I'm not surprised. The school system is ran by a buncha Nazi's (Or their American equivalent). I got a 2 week suspension for wearing a Bad Religion t-shirt, with the band's logo being a cross and circle-with-cross-through-it cancel sign over said cross. A teacher got pissed and sent me to the office, and when he needed to solidify his reasons to get me in trouble, he said I was cussing at him uncontrollably. Which never happened.

Tl;dr

The fact that the boy got suspended disgusts me, but doesn't surprise me at this point.
 

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NightHawk21 said:
That being said we know this kid already got suspended multiple times due to dress code violations (hats and whatnot). So while I don't know exactly how this school works, because I don't have the handbook outlining punishments and rules, but if he has multiple offenses the school may be more likely to suspend him faster and for longer if he broke dress code again (if this is a multiple violation I'm surprised he only got 3 days).
We know he's been suspended once before, unless you've read more articles on this subject than I have.

According to what I've read, him wearing a dress was not a violation of the dress code. If it's not a violation, it's not a second violation or a multiple violation. Doing 65 on the motorway where the speed limit is 70 cannot be your second, third, tenth or seventy-third speeding offence if it's not a speeding offence at all.

In addition, we don't know what type of dress it is.
Erm ... okay, so maybe we don't, but ... y'know ... after I read people agreeing that he did look pretty I did click the link in the OP and there was a picture of someone in a dress and high heels.

It's MSN, and it's not obviously captioned, but here you go:



Presumably, if you're willing to place that much faith in MSN, it was that kind of dress.
First don't talk in such a patronizing tone. As for the offenses your right in so much as we know he has been suspended at least once before. Yes according to what you read based on an interview between the mother and her son (not the school that made the dress code) him wearing a dress was not a violation of the dress code in so much that the dress code does not likely state "No wearing of dresses is allowed." Now looking at the dress, assuming that is him it is see thru to a certain extent (not a lot but than again I don't know how strict the school is), but the issue in particular is the extremely low cut. Granted he is a boy, so big deal if its low cut, he could go topless in public and no-one would stop him, but allowing him to wear such a low cut top (again something not allowed in most schools anyways) would set a precedent allowing girls to complain why they can't wear revealing clothing.

As for your comment on speeding. If you are going 65 in a 70 zone, and their are cars behind you that you are slowing down you could get a ticket for impeding traffic.

EDIT: A fact I didn't initially consider for my first post either was that he could very well have been a disturbance in class. If a guy wearing a dress in class makes other people in that class talk about it or makes the teacher address it for any length of time he is disturbing the classroom just by being there in a dress. Lots of people brought this up already, one I particularly liked was the one about the burrito :)
 

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xXxJessicaxXx said:
I've even come across the reverse where women have ridiculed me for liking 'masculine things' Ie video games. It's hard to be friends with alot of other women becuase of my interests, they are sexist too.
This is why I gave up on gender, lol. Whenever someone asks what gender I am, I just reply with "I'm just me."

Life's too short to care about that stuff.
 

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Snowy Rainbow said:
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One uniform should be enforced.
One uniform, yes. If someone wants to wear part of that uniform that you've decided is female, they should eb able to.

I find your attitude... disgusting. This idea that others get to decide for you what gender you have to abide by is an aged relic of a homophobic past. Forcing people to wear what you feel is "best for them" is a step backwards. Sheesh. I know an Asian kid who got picked on a fair bit. Should we have just locked hin behind bars so no one picked on him? No. What do you do? Tell the bullies to knock it off or fuck off.
I find your twisting of my statement...disgusting. Being bullied for being a race and being bullied because you chose to "express" yourself in school are completely different. It is extreme naivety for you to feel that you can tell bullies to "fuck off" and it will solve e problem. I'm expressing myself now and the impression I'm getting is you have an identity to protect an idea of a crusade against "your" kind.

At School age kids don't even know what sexuality or gender they truly identify with. School is a cruel place but it would be worse if if attitudes such as yours were taught: "express yourself! In an environment full of judgmental people that we can't watch constantly EXPRESS YOURSELF OR ELSE!!!!!"
 

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Reaper195 said:
Ah, the US. Land of the free indeed. This is fucking disgraceful that people still exclude other people simply for doing something different. And just to put this on a flat line for the school, you think that it being a dare from someone else it would have been all fine, considering he wasn't doing it to simply wear feminine clothing.

Ugh, I hate this world at the moment.

Edit: And just because of the nine years of being on the net, I finally got first post!
People hate the different, which seems quite funny in an "individualistic society" that claims to be "the land of the free". Then again, every fuckin' movie set in America has a bully, which are society's "weird removal" agents, the fuckin' tools.
 

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Svenparty said:
I'm expressing myself now and the impression I'm getting is you have an identity to protect an idea of a crusade against "your" kind.
A) an opinion =/= a gender (in regards to you "expressing" yourself)

B) making the victims of bullying change = giving up = not okay

C) "My kind"? I'm not a transsexual if that's what you're implying
 

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Snowy Rainbow said:
Svenparty said:
I'm expressing myself now and the impression I'm getting is you have an identity to protect an idea of a crusade against "your" kind.
A) an opinion =/= a gender (in regards to you "expressing" yourself)

B) making the victims of bullying change = giving up = not okay

C) "My kind"? I'm not a transsexual if that's what you're implying
1. Being Asian is not the same as keeping your dress off until the weekend. You can't remove your Asian body(Though ironically make great transexuals).

2.This isnt about occured bullying anyone caught bullying someone should be stopped. This is about PREVENTING bullying and disruption before it happens. School pupils aren't mature enough to understand some people are different sexually and have unusual dress sense. Bullying would occur so one uniform....Your not going to like this (because you'll perceive it as sexist) trousers and a shirt for both boys and girls. Worked in my school perfectly.
 

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Svenparty said:
You're coming at this with great intent (being picked on aint fun!). I'm coming at this with a different, I think equally great intent. I've also had a rough day and am being way too dickish with you. So I have to say sorry. I respect what you're saying but disagree. This is one of those rare cases where I think we both want the same thing but have to agree to disagree, lol.

And yes, Asians make great transgirls. So pretty <3
 

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This is just to tell you Im done with you as I can no longer look past your obvious trolling.
PROTIP: Calling someone a troll during an argument is basically the Godwin's Law of The Escapist, because the (self-titled) "intellectual elite" on here tend to believe that anyone who disagrees with them is clearly only doing it because they're trying to "troll" and God forbid anyone ever actually have a legitimate opposing view to their opinion.

Congratulations, you've now joined those ranks.

mmmmmmm the truth is delicious.
 

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Snowy Rainbow said:
Svenparty said:
You're coming at this with great intent (being picked on aint fun!). I'm coming at this with a different, I think equally great intent. I've also had a rough day and am being way too dickish with you. So I have to say sorry. I respect what you're saying but disagree. This is one of those rare cases where I think we both want the same thing but have to agree to disagree, lol.

And yes, Asians make great transgirls. So pretty <3
Agreed on all counts especially the Asian one.