It's an interesting step for the man of steel. Honestly, I thought the whole "truth, justice, and he American way" thing faded a long time ago, but I guess I was wrong. That said, I don't think it'll truly change his character, but it will change his costume. It'd have to be; his costume is iconic and has always been linked to that one phrase since the day he came about sixty years ago.
Superman Renounces U.S. Citizenship
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There's an idea. But his look is red, blue, and yellow, not red, white, and blue. I think he could keep his look and be fine, since hes not wearing an Amecican Flag or such like Captain America does. Now if Cap renounces his U.S. citizenship, that would be huge. He already went against the government back in the Civil War series. Oh wait... hes dead now isn't he? Someone clone him up and see if he leaves today's America after seeing how it is.Dragonpit said:
It kinda makes sense, away from any political message being given.
He is an alien. And he does save the whole world all the time.
He should really just have status as Honored guest of earth.
And also considering people see politics as Grey vs Grey vs Grey these days, keeping the ultimate kind hearted super being politically neutral seems wise to me. In the long term.
Short term, I can see Americans raging at this. The idiot ones. I like most of you guys.
But, having Superman as an American doesn't look great to an international audience.
Your government is pretty much universally hated. And that hate influences opinions, even on fictional characters.
Remember the American flags in the Spiderman films? Yeah.
We got a large groan in the cinemas here in the UK.
When one guy swore out loud, we all laughed.
I suspect this will be the reason for the change.
You know, or to generate controversy and get everyone talking about Superman for once and hopefully increase sales.
But a comic company would NEVER do that. Obviously...
He is an alien. And he does save the whole world all the time.
He should really just have status as Honored guest of earth.
And also considering people see politics as Grey vs Grey vs Grey these days, keeping the ultimate kind hearted super being politically neutral seems wise to me. In the long term.
Short term, I can see Americans raging at this. The idiot ones. I like most of you guys.
But, having Superman as an American doesn't look great to an international audience.
Your government is pretty much universally hated. And that hate influences opinions, even on fictional characters.
Remember the American flags in the Spiderman films? Yeah.
We got a large groan in the cinemas here in the UK.
When one guy swore out loud, we all laughed.
I suspect this will be the reason for the change.
You know, or to generate controversy and get everyone talking about Superman for once and hopefully increase sales.
But a comic company would NEVER do that. Obviously...
It seems to me that America isn't aloud to have a real culture and that it has to relate to everyperson ever
I never thought he had a citizenship, that's the sort of thing mild-mannered alter-egos do, isn't it?
But yeah...it gets annoying when superheros confuse the US with the world. When there's a threat to the world, the Justice League of America deals with it, not the Justice League of the United Nations or something. Admittedly not true of all comics, but there's a definite trend.
I want Superman to start the JLUN!
But yeah...it gets annoying when superheros confuse the US with the world. When there's a threat to the world, the Justice League of America deals with it, not the Justice League of the United Nations or something. Admittedly not true of all comics, but there's a definite trend.
I want Superman to start the JLUN!
If anything I think it would lower sales in the States, out of country pride and all that. That's why I think its a stupid move but even as a guy here I think its better he is neutral of the governments. It just comes off as heavy handed with political meaning behind it. I get the whole "I'm not American I help everyone equally" thing, but the way hes drawn to look in the face and speaks about it just makes him come off like he hates the country too in a way. If it was done as him just saying he is a citizen of the planet to help all wherever needed that would be fine. But focusing it to say like he is leaving the U.S., which will just make U.S. Superman fans made and lower sales, thats the part I don't get, and why I can only think the way its all played out seems like political meaning behind it.
This actually makes me very sad. Superman is an american icon, a symbol of values we once had. I understand from a thematic stand point it makes sense, it's just a very startling sign of the times that we can't even have Superman representing america anymore.
At least we still have Batman
At least we still have Batman
So much for truth, justice and the American way, I guess.
Tbh, Superman's getting to be too much of a moral/ethical book anyways. I can't take such 'deep' sentiments very seriously when they come from a guy who used to duck when guns were thrown at him, but laughed off the bullets.
Tbh, Superman's getting to be too much of a moral/ethical book anyways. I can't take such 'deep' sentiments very seriously when they come from a guy who used to duck when guns were thrown at him, but laughed off the bullets.
So Superman has finally realized that he and America are no longer have the same ideology? Took you long enough, Supes...
By the way, I love it how people are debating the citizenship status of not only a fictional character, but the alter ego of a fictional character. Does that matter? Where he's from changes nothing about the character, his actions, what he stands for, etc.
By the way, I love it how people are debating the citizenship status of not only a fictional character, but the alter ego of a fictional character. Does that matter? Where he's from changes nothing about the character, his actions, what he stands for, etc.
Opinion. And I perfer DC heroes over Marvel.Saelune said:
Also note, I didn't say THE american symbol. I'd certainly make the strong argument he stands shoulder to shoulder with Captain.
Even just on a fact basis, Cap is a much better American Superhero. While I did suggest Captain America is just a better character than Superman, it was more that he is more "American" than Superman. It is probably shown best during the Civil War arch in the Marvel comics. Superman just saves the world, Captain America actually gets involved on a more closer level to what is right and what is law.SaneAmongInsane said:
I'm not going to go on an anti-American rant, but I do think it's for the best. Supes should be free to do what he wants without the responsibility of representing a nation. Also, with the exception of the "American Way" I'm not sure U.S. policy has ever really synched up with anything he's been about. Not a lot of nations can claim that they've always pursuied truth and justic with a straight face.
I'm not going to go on an anti-American tangent, but I do think it's for the best. Supes should be free to do what he wants without the responsibility of representing a nation. Also, with the exception of the "American Way" I'm not sure U.S. policy has ever really synched up with anything he's been about. Not a lot of nations can claim that they've always pursuied truth and justic with a straight face.