teenage pregnancies

[Aschenkatza]

Woah, wait one second there, where are you getting your information?

I learned Sex Ed. and so did all my classmates, when I was 12 years old and we're all perfectly healthy, knowledgable kids.

Then again, the Sex Ed. system in my area is top notch so meh, I don't know.

I meant if you were to teach a 9-year-old about sex, it would probably confuse them. I'm glad[and jealous] your area takes sex education as a high priority, but in some places it's not. I never took a Sex-ed class in high school, because there wasn't one. I'm in college now and taking a Human Sexuality class on my own accord, because I never got the type of education I should have gotten from the school system.

 

[DrunkenKitty]

Teen pregnancy has declined decade after decade since they started tracking it in the 70s.

Where did you get this? Not that I don't believe you, I would just like to be able to to say Ha! Fuck you (in your stupid face) you're wrong! to certain people and be able to back it up.

http://www.teenshelter.org/detailed_statistics.htm

This is a chart with detailed data on teen birth rates and abortion rates from 1972-1997. They show a slow but steady decline in actual numbers of births and abortions, which is even more significant when you consider the increase in population.

 

[Aschenkatza]

I meant if you were to teach a 9-year-old about sex, it would probably confuse them. I'm glad[and jealous] your area takes sex education as a high priority, but in some places it's not. I never took a Sex-ed class in high school, because there wasn't one. I'm in college now and taking a Human Sexuality class on my own accord, because I never got the type of education I should have gotten from the school system.

Ah, I see. Yeah, it probably would confuse a 9 year old.
It never ceases to astonish me when I hear that some places still don't teach Sex Ed. Actually, this is the first time I've ever heard of it, from a... where is it that you live? Eh, don't answer that if you don't want to.

Hehe, Southern Cali. Whats even worse is the California school system is loosing money, when what it really needs is more. /cry Damn you Govenator.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

http://www.teenshelter.org/detailed_statistics.htm

This is a chart with detailed data on teen birth rates and abortion rates from 1972-1997. They show a slow but steady decline in actual numbers of births and abortions, which is even more significant when you consider the increase in population.

Excellent, now if only thoose stats were for the UK...I should stop being lazy and go do some digging in the ONS and their cursed labarynthine filing system.

 

[DrunkenKitty]

http://www.teenshelter.org/detailed_statistics.htm

This is a chart with detailed data on teen birth rates and abortion rates from 1972-1997. They show a slow but steady decline in actual numbers of births and abortions, which is even more significant when you consider the increase in population.

Excellent, now if only thoose stats were for the UK...I should stop being lazy and go do some digging in the ONS and their cursed labarynthine filing system.

http://jrsm.rsmjournals.com/cgi/content/full/97/3/121

Article with much statistical data proving that teen pregnancy has steadily declined in the UK over the last 60 years and the "teen pregnancy epidemic" is largely inflated by the media.

Excerpt:
"Figure 2 shows the live birth rates for women in England and Wales, by age, from the beginning of World War II to the late 1990s. For the entire time period, the highest birth rates are found among women in their 20s and early 30s, with rates in the latter age group taking over those among women in their 20s. Throughout the time period, birth rates for women under the age of 20 are relatively low. Moreover, at any one time the birth rates for women aged under 20 tend to reflect the overall pattern of changing birth rates for women of all ages in the country. Over the six decades, rates of births to teenage mothers followed patterns similar to those for the general reproductive population; there has been no explosion in the rate of births to women under the age of 20 in recent years."

Spoiler: Really crappy graph from the same article showing decline in teen pregnancy in the UK. (Under 20 birth rate is shown as the dotted line on the bottom.)

http://jrsm.rsmjournals.com/content/vol97/issue3/images/large/123f2g.jpeg

Teen pregnancy is just another crisis manufactured to distract us from what really matters in the world.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

http://www.teenshelter.org/detailed_statistics.htm

Excellent. In your face Graham!

Thanks.

 

[sorry user name taken.]

on topic: Have an abortion, problem solved.

these kids bodies react the same way adults body does fact also some people don't agree on abortion =/

Bodies react the same way? Ok i guess, but it is still the best way to deal with it imo, but then i don't have any problems with abortion.
and neither should you, unless it's your own body.

religion is another thang thats against that =/ plus parents as well

 

[sorry user name taken.]

Hehe, Southern Cali. Whats even worse is the California school system is loosing money, when what it really needs is more. /cry Damn you Govenator.

Okay wow, my point still stands. I didn't realize there were any developed countries that didn't have Sex Ed.

I think I'll have to pay the Governor a visit...




*pumps shotgun*

i got taken out of sex ed when i was at school lol..=/ still don't know why.i think we're forgetting that these are just kids and when your a kid your curious about everything..including this because you either bring your child up thinking its taboo to talk about or you explain it like parents should do..jeez

but then of course you get stupid kids that do it because they think its cool and then end up like this ...

 

[sirdanrhodes]

Wow, really? I thought the US had this dubious distinction. Wow, we aren't the most backward country in the world at everything! Woohoo!

It's impossible to be the most backward country, because every country has a ready supply of idiots and morons.

wow.....waste of time mate. next time try and think before you post something...

And your quote was not a waste of time? Mocking someone who made a mistake many other people make on a regular basis.

 

[TheDean]

Well, i live in the UK, and to be honest i see no prblem with it. Now, don't instantly form a negative opinion of me and think i'm someone going around having underage sex and getting girls pregnant so we can as many of those lovely abortions as possible, that's not true at all. It's just that i think the issue here is free will.
If teens want to go around getting pregnant that's their right. If they want to have an abortion, that's also their right. I see no problem with it.
What exactly do you, assming you do see a problem here, propose is done about this?
I'm not saying i think a 13 year old is ready to be a father, because that's not very plausible, but nevertheless he should have the right to be one. And he certainly shouldn't have his personal business discussed in newspapers.

I agree with you about free will in principle, however here is a few things I do not believe you have taken into consideration:

The first is that he is at the age where he is still being looked after himself, this means his parents will be paying to look after him and his baby as he has no income, so no, teenagers should not be having children because their free will is infringing on their parents. What you are saying in other words is that if a teenager wanted to invite their girlfriend to live with them and their parents then, they have the right to do so. I can't see anyone agreeing with that, and this is even worse.

The second is that he would have had to give permission for the papers to interview him in a maternity ward. I would imagine that hospitals would have some kind of privacy policy.

so,ok, perhaps he gave permision for th einterview. But what i'm saying is he doesn't deserve to be looked down upon and criticised by the general public. What the hell do they know?
Anyhoo, i understand your point, it wouldn't be fair to force this on his parents, so, perhaps they should have considered an abortion, i dunno. I'd have assumed they'd have discussed what they were gonna do and his parents agreed to help; of course since i don't really follow news in any way i don't know the exact details of this situation.

 

[TheDean]

I'm not saying i think a 13 year old is ready to be a father, because that's not very plausible, but nevertheless he should have the right to be one.

Are you honestly saying a 13 year old boy has the RIGHT to be a father?
Seriously?

He isn't old enough to drive, or hold down anything resembling a supporting job. So, do tell: How would he take care of the baby? How would he support the baby? Who would pay for the needs of the baby?

No.
A 13 year old, who can't take care of himself, has no right being a father. He's freaking 13. Sorry, rescuing the princess and just learning long division aren't skills usable in the raising of ANOTHER HUMAN BEING. I don't care how 'mature' a 13 year old is, it's crazy.

well, i might have known you'd be at the front of the line when it comes to disagreeing with me Baby Tea.
Anyhoo, i understand whre you're coming from. I'm just saying that we should all have the right to do what we want. PLain and simple.
Remember the life of brian? That one guy couldn't have kids, but he wanted to have the right to have kids. This is simplar, a 13 year old won't make a good parent, but he should have to right to be one nevertheless.
Now, i'm sure he discussed this with his parents. I don't know muhc about this specific case, i don't read newspapers or wathc news programmes, or read online news, or give a damn about what's going on around me, but i'm gonna assume that the kid talked this over with his parents before they decided to keep the baby. Abortion is always a good option otherwise.

 

[Ronwue]

Underage sex is very stupid for loads of reason, so they have no one but themselfs to blaim, i say make abortions illegal for underage people, if they are mature enough to have sex then they are mature enough to know what can happen, so i say let them live with their misstakes.

And just to proove that im not just a bitter old bloke who dont know what im talking about, my sister got pregnant when she had recently turned 17, and she stuck it out, our entire family suffered for it cause the swedish government fucking sucks, So yes, i have been a victim of what teenage pregnancy can bring, and i still say its their own faults.

Yes, because there aren't enough unwanted children in this world. Let's give them even more reasons to feel pitiful. Everyone makes mistakes, but it's not supposed to kill them unless they jump in front of a train.

 

[sheic99]

Which is why i say its their own fault, they learn about the hazzards of it in school yet they still choose to keep doing it, so they(the teenagers) deserve all they get, be it STD's or teenage pregnancy.

I don't know about your Sex-Ed, but ours was pretty much "okhay, you all know how to have sex, remember, condoms are good but it feels better without them, oh, and being gay is okay".

So yeah... The Sex Ed system really needs to be improved.

Your sex education was better than mine.

"Wear condoms, but abstinence is better." "Remember Abstinence" "The only sure way to avoid STDs is abstinence."

 

[sheic99]

I meant if you were to teach a 9-year-old about sex, it would probably confuse them. I'm glad[and jealous] your area takes sex education as a high priority, but in some places it's not. I never took a Sex-ed class in high school, because there wasn't one. I'm in college now and taking a Human Sexuality class on my own accord, because I never got the type of education I should have gotten from the school system.

Ah, I see. Yeah, it probably would confuse a 9 year old.
It never ceases to astonish me when I hear that some places still don't teach Sex Ed. Actually, this is the first time I've ever heard of it, from a... where is it that you live? Eh, don't answer that if you don't want to.

Hehe, Southern Cali. Whats even worse is the California school system is loosing money, when what it really needs is more. /cry Damn you Govenator.

What part of Southern California? I had sex-ed with the focus only on abstinence.

 

[Giovanto]

Teen Pregnancy is the inevtiable result of ignorance and stupidity.

To put that in another, less stupid way, kids are not taught the proper way to prevent it, and some of them WANT to have kids cause they don't know what they are getting themselves into.

Me personally? I'm 16 and I would love to have kids. But I don't. I'm not married, I don't have a stable income, and I would make a poor example to my own kids. I oppose abortion, which is semi-religious but more just a moral thing.

Also, I doubt the 12 year old is the father. When your twelve your body is JUST starting to develop. So you might have semen in small amounts, but there would be a very low sperm count and there wouldn't be enough of it to really make her pregnant to begin with.

I know people who I respect greatly who had their first as young as 20. It was an accident yes but they did not abort. It was never even an option to them. They took care of their kids and I know one person who had a total of 5 accidents and never even thought about giving up the child.

People need to be responsible for their actions. If your going to fuck everything that moves and you get a kid out of it, then you need to be responsible. Pills are a very delicate thing to use, especially at a young age. Pills stack with Condoms and thats a much safer way to go about it. If you screw, no matter what contraception you use, any consequences are your fault. You shouldn't escape it by having an abortion. Be responsible for your actions.

And yes, the Sex Ed. system needs help. People will fuck, they will fuck a lot and telling them to not do it and ending it there just is a waste of money.

 

[traceur_]

ONLY GOOD IF I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR IT

 

[A random person]

Underage sex is very stupid for loads of reason, so they have no one but themselfs to blaim, i say make abortions illegal for underage people, if they are mature enough to have sex then they are mature enough to know what can happen, so i say let them live with their misstakes.

So mature, responsible adults can absolve responsibility by having an abortion but teens who don't know what they're doing have to face the consequences of their actions? As for the second part, just because they have sex doesn't mean they're mature.

At least as far as I'm concerned, let them bone, but make sure to the best you can that they use a condom and other means of birth control. The problem here is the pregnancy (and std's), not the sex itself.

 

[A random person]

And yes, the Sex Ed. system needs help. People will fuck, they will fuck a lot and telling them to not do it and ending it there just is a waste of money.

Agreed. My sex ed in school consisted of anatomy (good, but falls more under health science), a list of std's and basic info about them (can you say scare tactics?), baby expenses (also scare tactics, but true), and most of it was a bunch of crap about family and interpersonal relationships that the schools seem to think is actually a good idea to teach in a total institution (seriously, schools need to stop it with the social molding, it's not helpful). There was very little about sex itself.

 

[Christemo]

it is both a good and a bad thing. okay, 13, then its a really bad thing. thats like giving me a baby and saying "youre a father now". it would have been something else if he was 17 or 18. but 13?? geez...

 

[Fronken]

Underage sex is very stupid for loads of reason, so they have no one but themselfs to blaim, i say make abortions illegal for underage people, if they are mature enough to have sex then they are mature enough to know what can happen, so i say let them live with their misstakes.

So mature, responsible adults can absolve responsibility by having an abortion but teens who don't know what they're doing have to face the consequences of their actions? As for the second part, just because they have sex doesn't mean they're mature.

At least as far as I'm concerned, let them bone, but make sure to the best you can that they use a condom and other means of birth control. The problem here is the pregnancy (and std's), not the sex itself.

That's kinda the point of my rant, if they arent mature enough to deal with the consequences, then they shouldnt have sex in the first place.

"Dont do the crime if you cant do the time", Not refering to the same thing but it has the same moral/logic.

Meaning if kids want to fuck around, let them deal with their own consequences, dont bail them out when they get in trouble for it, let them live with it so they actually learn something from it, instead of learning nothing, because if they can get abortions, they dont have to have control over their lifes, they can continue to fuck around like idiots, and yeah they will contract some std's in the process, but knowing how dumb teenagers are i doubt they will stop because of that.

And please keep in mind that im saying this all as a brother of a teenage pregnancy "victim", my sister got pregnant And had a baby as a teenager...