Teenage rapist who was let off let off attacks again within days

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geldonyetich

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These threads expressing outrage over some matter of social commentary are always closer in reality to mere low mob rule.

 

garfoldsomeoneelse

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The court is sending a serious message, here: "Hey, c'mon now. It's cute, but it's against the law. Go sit in the corner and think about what you did until you're ready to be a big boy and come out, okay, Sugarplum?"
 

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Here is a rather cynical view/my view of how it should be dealt with or how all crime should be dealt with - now It may be extreemly harsh but fear is a powerful motivator, anyone who commits a crime say mugging someone, if the mugger or criminal is aged 14/16 + is given 1 year of jail time - second offence is life imprisonment till death - this way it prevent criminals going into jail meeting other criminals and getting more set in their ways or comeing out of jail with new toolsets for crime learnt from other criminals. Murder or rape with intent of rape is instant imprisonment till death - this doesn't mean if a girl sneaks into a party and sleeps with an older guy and then calls rape as this is stupid and appallingly all to common how rape is defined in the UK is strange - its unfair for someone to take the blame for something that is entirely the girl/boys fault for lieing about their age and then calling rape charges because their underage.

Now many of you will say this is too harsh but let me put it to you like this - if we have horrible consequences and charges for crime in generel, yes its unfair to many, eventually people will reolise it isn't worth the risk - if people read things like boy 16 rapes 2 children it hardly says "We take crime seriously don't do it!" - please comment on my idea - *putting it into practise may be a bit difficult*

The death penalty is too easy and trust me, spending up to 100 years potentially is worse punishment as your forced to remember your deeds every day
It's all very well and good to suggest something like that, but the fact of the matter is society can't afford it.

The concept of rehabilitation rather than punishment is one that was designed not only for this "human rights" thing, but also to save money. A lot of money. In Australia, it costs over $70k a year to keep one prisoner in maximum security. That's a lot of money. If you multiply that by the span of their natural life and then by however many criminals there are, that will be a serious hit to the budget. Even mandatory sentencing doesn't work; considering how many criminals reoffend (and the recidivism rate is quite high, especially because after being gaoled they are given no help to set themselves back up, meaning many have to fall back into a life of crime to survive) the cost of gaoling everyone becomes too extreme.

This is one of the key concepts of rehabilitation rather than punishment. It costs a whole lot less.

And don't even get me started on recent events like the Dennis Ferguson incident.
 

Kuchinawa212

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*sigh* this is just terrible. Raping little children is just so wrong. Think what they must go through for the rest of their lives
 

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awes0mepenguin said:
3 years for raping 2 kids... the message they're sending is "rape is bad... i guess"
Sounds to me like the message they are sending is "rape isn't THAT bad" since most rapes get you somewhere in the region of decades and this little bastard only got 3 years.
 

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I'm shocked. He raped a 5 year old BOY and on top of that he's 16 - THAT'S UNBELIEVABLY SICK. AND HE MOSTLY GOT AWAY WITH THAT. OH, GOD!!!!
 

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I think any sexual or sexually-orientated crime should resolve in castration of the assaulter

This not only punishes them, and fits the crime, it also, by way of hormone production in that area, largley removes the sexual urge to do such horrible things

*sharpens blade*
 

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CmRet said:
Rolling Thunder said:
*Idly begins to thumb .44 caliber rounds into a magnum*
Best post I have ever seen I agree. The death penalty should be legal for people like this.
Same here, firing squad for this bastard.
 

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Lexodus said:
Sonicron said:
If it were up to me, I'd tie the guy to a post and hum 'Another one bites the dust' to myself while loading a clip into my AK-47. Swiss cheese time!
But, alas, it's not up to me.
Or, to set up an elaborate scheme, get him to serve community service by working in a bar... and then ask him for a Holy Bartender.

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Sonicron said:
Lexodus said:
Sonicron said:
If it were up to me, I'd tie the guy to a post and hum 'Another one bites the dust' to myself while loading a clip into my AK-47. Swiss cheese time!
But, alas, it's not up to me.
Or, to set up an elaborate scheme, get him to serve community service by working in a bar... and then ask him for a Holy Bartender.

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Sonicron

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Lexodus said:
Sonicron said:
Lexodus said:
Sonicron said:
If it were up to me, I'd tie the guy to a post and hum 'Another one bites the dust' to myself while loading a clip into my AK-47. Swiss cheese time!
But, alas, it's not up to me.
Or, to set up an elaborate scheme, get him to serve community service by working in a bar... and then ask him for a Holy Bartender.

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Dogma, if I'm not mistaken.

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Oh boy! I get to cannibalize an annoying fat Italian plumber!
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Reminds me of South Park, the movie. "Damn, dude. That kid is fucked up"

Seriously, and the whole thing with being let off like that is....mind-snapping.
 

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Lexodus said:
Darkwolf9 said:
RedPandaMan said:
This is just another example of how bad the justice system is, in all countries.

This also has the unfortunate side-effect of reinforcing the image in many homophobes' minds that gays are child rapists.
I'm not sure what you mean here. Nobody has even mentioned homosexuals in regards to this kid being raped. In fact the OP never even mentioned the sexuality of the offender, just that he raped two boys.
Bolded for answering your own question.
That doesn't answer my own question. Stats show that sexuality rarely has anything to do with pedophilia. I'm simply saying that this case doesn't necessarily reinforce that gays are child rapists, because the text never said whether he was homosexual or not. It would reinforce the argument if the in the text it said, "local 16 year old homosexual male raped two boys."
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
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The person who did this was 16! Imagine what was in his mind, try and empathise with the rapist himself, of course this was horrible for the boy who got raped but everyone seems to be forgetting that the guy who did this doesn't need punishment, he needs serious help.
Bullshit.

He wasn't magically compelled to stick his dick in little kids.
He had a choice and he fucked up - twice.
There's no "He should be forgiven!" about it.

The kid just ruined lives because he has no self control.
He should be punished regardless of whether the parents (who are clearly stupid) of the victim forgive him.

Sorry, that's victims, plural.

What about the kids?
Don't they deserve your "empathy?"

Or do you reserve that for monsters?
If so, I'd like you to be on the jury at my murder trial - I'm thinking of skinning some orphans alive, and since I clearly have something wrong with me, I don't think I deserve to be punished.
Wow, I did not expect a reply from you.

Well, let me explain my position, as I have multiple times that if you wanted to, you could have gone down a page or so and seen, but as we're being lazy about it, I'll explain.
Of course I think you should empathise with the child, I would assume that in a "rational" discussion like this (ha) I wouldn't need to tell you how sorry I feel for the child, but since everyone is heaping death sentences on the rapist I felt it was right to take a second to explain my point of view.

Everyone in this thread is judging the rapist as if he is of the same mental state as you, I would assume that this person is not as intelligent as you, he probably doesn't live in as affluent an area and he obviously has serious problems, now I'm not saying that what he did was ok, I'm saying he doesn't understand the situation like you or I do.
Doesn't the fact that he went and did it again show he's obviously mentally unstable?

And no I don't think he should be punished, (he should go to an asylum and get serious mental help), I think that this kind of thing should be prevented rather than let happen and let the criminal be punished.
 

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Darkwolf9 said:
Lexodus said:
Darkwolf9 said:
RedPandaMan said:
This is just another example of how bad the justice system is, in all countries.

This also has the unfortunate side-effect of reinforcing the image in many homophobes' minds that gays are child rapists.
I'm not sure what you mean here. Nobody has even mentioned homosexuals in regards to this kid being raped. In fact the OP never even mentioned the sexuality of the offender, just that he raped two boys.
Bolded for answering your own question.
That doesn't answer my own question. Stats show that sexuality rarely has anything to do with pedophilia. I'm simply saying that this case doesn't necessarily reinforce that gays are child rapists, because the text never said whether he was homosexual or not. It would reinforce the argument if the in the text it said, "local 16 year old homosexual male raped two boys."
Let me ask you this: are you straight?

If so, would you ever rape a dude? Let alone actively find and rape another within days of the first? Believe me, you get way too many men raping little girls, but this dude decided to rape two little boys. That, to me, at least, says 'gay'.