**Terror in Oslo** UPDATE: Anders Breivik gets 8 weeks of custody
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...Leviathan_ said:
wow. Ok, THAT'S pretty fucked up. Well, I guess it's kinda a therapeutic system that really does seek to re-integrate the convicts (unlike every other penal system that just reinforces certain negative behaviours), and from the bit at the end it seems to work but shiiiit - it goes against all the expectations of punishment for serious crimes that we expect!
be aware that Bastøy prison, which is being displayed in that video, is strictly only for those prisoners who show exemplary conduct and are judged to be fairly safe to attempt to reintegrate into society.Wicky_42 said:
If they do anything to pull their eligibility for being reintegrated into society into question, they are put back in a regular prison.
At least that's what I've heard.
Well hopefully that prison is used for the cases that people feel can be forgiven and the prisoners that are actually repentant. By contrast, if this guy was truly repentant, he'd kill himself.Wicky_42 said:
Although hopefully this will make people think. Next time they condemn Islam as a dirty violent evil religion (not forgetting the communism and rejection of apple pie), they might remember that Christians and right-wingers do the exact same things.
Just remember how quickly people, including me, pinned the whole thing on AL Qaeda and such.
Just remember how quickly people, including me, pinned the whole thing on AL Qaeda and such.
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e033x said:
Ah. Not living in Norway, and having no understanding of the discourse that happens within the Norwegian public sphere, I have no knowledge of how virulent they can get. I know that, in Australia, while we don't have public officals making death threats against their opponents, discussion about issues such as immirgration and climate change can get, well, heated. Not Amercian, hell-fire heated but enought to singe the hair on your arms if you get too close.Skjalg Kreutzer said:
I don't think it's the appropriate place for this argument but, at least the security guards at the Youth Camp should have had the means to protect these people, hell, I wonder if a scope rifle with tranquilizers would have been enough to put Mr. Bad Guy down.scumofsociety said:
It's the worst thing that happened in Norway since WW2. It's really big for them there, my condolences to the family of the people who died.
Apparently this guy bought 6 tons of fertilizer. Now, unless you're planning to work in some kind of major greenhouse project, this guy was just out for maximum destruction. Six tons! I hate to think about what kind of damage this guy could've done if all six tons were used in one attack.
Unreal, man.
Unreal, man.
Well, I heard he had founded a company called Geofram which was supposedly working in farming of some sort.CrazyCapnMorgan said:
Might have been created for the sole purpose of evading suspicion while he bought fertilizer.
Oh, and by the way: If you decide to google Geofram and Anders Behring, be advised that the top hits are from a site called "bestgore".
Really not safe for work. I don't even think it's legal.
All six tons probably were used, you don't just set fire to a pile of fertilizer and call that a bomb. You distill the silver nitrate from it over a few weeks/months, and then use that to make a bomb... I'm pretty sure you could do the same with bleach.CrazyCapnMorgan said:
I cried last night, and I've been crying all day for the insane inhumanity and evil that has occurred. Over 91 innocent lives, 84 of them were just youths, because of one extremely evil man. I've cried for my fellow Norwegian youths, and everyone who feels touched.
Dear people of Norway and the world,
never forget the 22nd of July 2011,
never forgive.
Dear people of Norway and the world,
never forget the 22nd of July 2011,
never forgive.