Texas man kills man who allegedly sexually molested his daughter

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Clearing the Eye

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Devoneaux said:
Clearing the Eye said:
Yes, let's all cheer for the death of a man whom may well be innocent of any crime, before we know all the facts -_-

Some times I almost hate the society we live in. Trial by media and such.
Speaking of "Rumors" like they are facts is much more interesting. How would this conversation go if we maintained our heads?


"Hmm, he could be guilty, but he could not be."

"Yes, I agree."

"Hmm, quite."

"...."

"...Sooo we're done here, yes?"
I'm sorry to have interrupted your death party. I didn't mean for fairness and the legal system to get in the way of you having fun. Please, go back to judging events you know little of and assuming a murdered man deserved it.
 

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While I am happy to hear the child is safe and that the father defended and protected her I have a few thoughts.

I have no idea what happened there, but if the father hit the assailant in the head and he died from the injuries just HOW many times did he hit the guy? As well what was he using to hit the guy?

If you die from one knock on the head from a fist punch then.... wow a little weak no?


But it is obvious the father hit him more than once and with such force the blunt trauma of the blows killed the guy on the spot.

Either the Father is the Incredible Hulk, or he was aware of what he was doing to the guy and could have stopped at one point and hospitalized him. But it sounds to me like he murdered him and regrets doing it afterwards.

I am not saying the father was in the wrong for doing this but I just don't think he should be given a wave of the hand on this...
 

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He was defending his daughter, it doesnt seem he would have gone to such lengths had it been anyone else and that this was a knee jerk reaction to something which could certainly warrant a strong reaction. People shouldnt be able to take the law into their own hands and anyone saying they should is inane, however that doesnt mean they cant defend themsleves and others in a situation but no one has the right to kill another man, thankfully the killing was unintentional.

People are praising this behaviour, as if any situation they claim would warrant death was as clean cut or morally black and white as they would like to think. Pedophiles are stil human and they have real problems, they deserve sympathy not hatred (it doesnt make what they do right or acceptable but they arent evil for things they cannot control). Anyone who thinks we are somehow better off by actively killing undesirables can take a place far from humanity along with those form history who agree with them, who also happen to be horrid monsters. If anyone, the human species would be better off without you, those who cannot feel sympathy for others and have the belief they can decide another has lived enough.
 

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If the victim was truly a pedophile, then I'd say good riddance. However:

"Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon said the father, whose name has not been released, is unlikely to be arrested for Saturday's killing and that no evidence so far has led investigators to doubt his story.
"There doesn't appear to be any reason other than what he told us," Harmon said."

That is absolutely disgusting. So the victim is apparently guilty, based on the word of a man who killed him, with no evidence besides "why else would he have done it"?
To summarize, the father is getting away with murder because he claimed the man was attempting to molest his daughter, and the only evidence to support that claim is his own word? That's fucked up.
 

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Angry_squirrel said:
If the victim was truly a pedophile, then I'd say good riddance. However:

"Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon said the father, whose name has not been released, is unlikely to be arrested for Saturday's killing and that no evidence so far has led investigators to doubt his story.
"There doesn't appear to be any reason other than what he told us," Harmon said."

That is absolutely disgusting. So the victim is apparently guilty, based on the word of a man who killed him, with no evidence besides "why else would he have done it"?
To summarize, the father is getting away with murder because he claimed the man was attempting to molest his daughter, and the only evidence to support that claim is his own word? That's fucked up.
Welcome to this forum. A lot of people here like to read half an OP and then assume they know all the facts. Here at the Escapist, the thread title is enough to convince someone you're telling the truth.

The sheer degree of vile and disgusting comments in this thread give me the urge to leave.
 

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Just sayin... it's not about the death penalty in this thread, but more than 50% of the people in here do not seem to get it.

It's about a guy, who killed a guy in the spur of the moment, because he was molesting his daughter.

My opinion is: Let that man be. He defended his daughter, and the killing wasn't planned. It's to bad for the offender, that he didnt survive his injuries, but that's the risk he took when he decided to go that last step.

I argue just about what i read in the article. It still not everything clear but as far i can tell it's just another everday tragedy that happend.
But it's definitly the wrong course of action to punish a father for savin' his daughter.
 

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I don't think it was reasonable to kill the guy, but since it happened, I think the father was reasonable in his reaction without the knowledge or thought of the man's death. There.
 

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Adeptus Aspartem said:
Just sayin... it's not about the death penalty in this thread, but more than 50% of the people in here do not seem to get it.

It's about a guy, who killed a guy in the spur of the moment, because he was molesting his daughter.
Just sayin... you don't seem to either.
Allegedly molesting his daughter. Read any of the sources, the only evidence that the man was actually molesting his daughter, was his own word, as well as "why else would he have done it"

If the man truly was molesting his daughter, then good riddance. But the father should have to prove that.
 

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In a nutshell, the guy catches someone molesting his daughter and beats him to death. I applaud the guy, I completely understand why he beat the guy, and as a father I would have done the same thing to the piece of garbage. Anyone that would do such a thing to a child doesnt deserve to breathe our air.
 

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I'm usually a forgiving person, but sexual crimes (rape and molestating) are things I find it near impossible to forgive. I have serious issues with people like this. Anyway, the man was sorry about killing the guy. I'm gonna side with the father on this....

HOWEVER... it does say allegedly, so if the guy was actually innocent, well then.... we've got a problem here.
 

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Clearing the Eye said:
Yes, let's all cheer for the death of a man whom may well be innocent of any crime, before we know all the facts -_-

Some times I almost hate the society we live in. Trial by media and such.

We've got people here actually happy with the thought a human being dying. Not only do they not know all the facts, not only could the dead man have been completely innocent, they apparently think it's a good thing the man, if he was actually molesting the girl, is dead. Not like I would expect civilized people living in a developed world to be sad that this event took place. No, no, let's all say how great it is that someone lost their life. Yay! How exciting! It's such a good thing that a little girl may have been molested and a man's life ended. I'm so glad he didn't get caught before hurting her and sent to prison and given psychiatric help!

I'm ashamed to even be apart of this community. We preach how good we are as a people and go on and on about how much better we are than other parts of the world, then some of you break out the champagne when a life is lost.

Sickening.
IF true, and the guy was molesting the girl, which the news doesnt say anything about allegedly, they outright say it was happening, then yeah... I have no pity on him whatsoever. Let me put it this way, there are plenty of people out there who havent had a fair shake in life, but they are able to control themselves to the point where they dont go out and inflict horrendous acts on other people. So I absolutely do not buy into the whole "society failed them" crap. Its their responsibility to behave in an appropriate manner.

I dont care WHAT another human beings issues are, if they touched my child, they will die by my hand. I will make sure they dont have another chance to do it to anyone else ever again. So yeah, if thats what happened, I commend the father for protecting his child.
 

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Angry_squirrel said:
To summarize, the father is getting away with murder because he claimed the man was attempting to molest his daughter, and the only evidence to support that claim is his own word? That's fucked up.
They found no evidence that he committed murder, so he cannot be convicted of murder... isn't that how this sort of thing is supposed to work? If such evidence arises then everything changes but until then... well technically until then we're supposed to assume that both of them are somehow innocent.

KrossBillNye said:
I have no idea what happened there, but if the father hit the assailant in the head and he died from the injuries just HOW many times did he hit the guy? As well what was he using to hit the guy?

If you die from one knock on the head from a fist punch then.... wow a little weak no?
It's not unheard off, if you hit the right person in the right location at the right time it can cause all sort of unforeseen problems. He probably killed the guy because like everyone else he assumed that it's easy to tell when you're about to punch someone to death and it's hard to do.

Either that or he just lost it, which is understandable.
 

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Riff Moonraker said:
Clearing the Eye said:
Yes, let's all cheer for the death of a man whom may well be innocent of any crime, before we know all the facts -_-

Some times I almost hate the society we live in. Trial by media and such.

We've got people here actually happy with the thought a human being dying. Not only do they not know all the facts, not only could the dead man have been completely innocent, they apparently think it's a good thing the man, if he was actually molesting the girl, is dead. Not like I would expect civilized people living in a developed world to be sad that this event took place. No, no, let's all say how great it is that someone lost their life. Yay! How exciting! It's such a good thing that a little girl may have been molested and a man's life ended. I'm so glad he didn't get caught before hurting her and sent to prison and given psychiatric help!

I'm ashamed to even be apart of this community. We preach how good we are as a people and go on and on about how much better we are than other parts of the world, then some of you break out the champagne when a life is lost.

Sickening.
IF true, and the guy was molesting the girl, which the news doesnt say anything about allegedly, they outright say it was happening, then yeah... I have no pity on him whatsoever. Let me put it this way, there are plenty of people out there who havent had a fair shake in life, but they are able to control themselves to the point where they dont go out and inflict horrendous acts on other people. So I absolutely do not buy into the whole "society failed them" crap. Its their responsibility to behave in an appropriate manner.

I dont care WHAT another human beings issues are, if they touched my child, they will die by my hand. I will make sure they dont have another chance to do it to anyone else ever again. So yeah, if thats what happened, I commend the father for protecting his child.
That's because most news sites are useless. There's been no trial and the single shred of reason we have to think he was molesting the young girl is this:

"There doesn't appear to be any reason other than what he told us." - A police officer.

That's right. The only reason the man is assumed to have been molesting the girl is because his murderer said so. That's it. Nothing more. So congratulations on reading a forum post and assuming a man deserved to die because his murderer tells us he did.

Also, if you actually read more than one source - "Texas father kills man who allegedly sexually molested daughter" - http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/326581