Texas man kills man who allegedly sexually molested his daughter

[Vegan_Doodler]

I am not going to rejoice in the death of another creature but I hope the dad doesn't get charged, he was protecting his family and has removed a detrimental element from the world.

Why don't people remember that killing makes more killing and suffering?

But I still think killing is the worst path to go down. I mean sure...break a couple of legs but don't kill him. It just makes life worse.

I would have to respectfully disagree and say while I do think killing is a low action and a sign that the individual has failed or not considered all other methods, sometimes removing select individuals who are detrimental to those around them is the most logical action.

And....

On some level, society had failed this man, he didn't get the help he needed to overcome his problem.

Indeed. I said in the other thread that it was a sad case all around, for all three individuals involved. It certainly isn't as black and white as most people would like to believe. Either out of sheer ignorance or simple denial.

People are very quick to abhor those who have committed such crimes without a thought as to why, beyond the standard hyperbolic 'soulless monster' shtick.

It's up to us, the thinkers, to question why.

I know this man probably wasn't the soulless monster we'd like to think he is. But this "Society is to blame" stuff has never sat well with me. He did it. HE did it. Not him and his neighbors. It wasn't a group project. They didn't put out ads in the news paper asking the community to come lend a hand. This society is partially to blame stuff has always seemed extremely coddling to me as if this person is a victim as well. He had freedom of choice.

He could

a: Seek help
b: NOT follow that perverse urge to touch the girl
c: Violate her in ways that will haunt her for the rest of her life.

He choose C. And no one is to blame for that but himself. Our society isn't perfect but this man is NOT a victim. If he had done it out in the open and people ignored the girl's screaming, then yeah I'd join you blaming society.

Paladin Anderson is right. Just like people who say 'the devil made me do it' blaming society is essentially just blaming a scape goat that can't answer back. I think modern society is in a messed up state and it may have screwed him over at some point but at the end of the day the guy, like all of use, still had free will.

 

[Yopaz]

Why don't people remember that killing makes more killing and suffering?

Why must us humans be so dumb to not be able to forgive one another rather then driving a dagger into the persons back?

Well, if we weren't stupid in the first place to invent killing in the first place I'm sure the world would be a different place.

Even I have to admit as a fellow human that we are dumb for not learning these things.

But I guess it is human nature to do this. People go crazy and lose control over the darker side of themselves which relate to the beginning of time when we first did this and yadadada.

But I still think killing is the worst path to go down. I mean sure...break a couple of legs but don't kill him. It just makes life worse.

Yeah, he shouldn't have tried to stop the man he found sexually abusing his 4 year old daughter. He should have waited until he finished and then tell him off in a stern voice.

The way I understand it from the sources the man discovered him raping his daughter and then killed him because of his rough treatment of this man. Seems like a case of blind rage to me, but there's only his word for what actually happened. Either way this is sad. I don't support rapists and child molesters are even worse, but death is too harsh a punishment. I guess I an understand the father's actions though.

 

[StormShaun]

Yeah, he shouldn't have tried to stop the man he found sexually abusing his 4 year old daughter. He should have waited until he finished and then tell him off in a stern voice.

Hey wait a second I didn't say that. *Looks at title* Oooooooh. I see.

And I didn't mean it like that. Sure I would of broke his legs as I said before. Also hey its better to send them to prison where he can call someone big daddy for most or some of their life...why kill them when that can happen. Isn't killing them giving the easier way out?

 

[Yopaz]

Yeah, he shouldn't have tried to stop the man he found sexually abusing his 4 year old daughter. He should have waited until he finished and then tell him off in a stern voice.

Hey wait a second I didn't say that. *Looks at title* Oooooooh. I see.

And I didn't mean it like that. Sure I would of broke his legs as I said before. Also hey its better to send them to prison where he can call someone big daddy for most or some of their life...why kill them when that can happen. Isn't killing them giving the easier way out?

Yeah, the thread wasn't really clear on the circumstances surrounding it so I was under the impression that this was a revenge thing when I entered. I agree that death shouldn't be the punishment, but I understand the father's actions and I hope he wont face murder charges for this, I wouldn't disagree with manslaughter though. Hopefully the girl will recover completely from this, that's all I really care about.

 

[RobfromtheGulag]

Was death warranted? Maybe, maybe not. But the guy should have been put away indefinitely if not. All the big cases you hear about nowadays are repeat offenders. Get them in the court room with a laywer looking to make a name for themself, and then they get off on good behaviour in 5 years and do the same thing except a little more surreptitously.
It's not 'uncontrollable' (on either party's part, for that matter); a decision is made, sometimes a split second decision, but that decision becomes more and more rectified the less the punishment incurred.

 

[GistoftheFist]

Whoop here we go, another one of these threads. Now just sit back and wait for people to rush to the attacker's defense while demonizing the victim, and ending the post with insulting America. :I

 

[Aussie Legend]

Good riddance, we don't need anymore scum like that then we already have.

 

[MrFalconfly]

Sorry but I'm still against the Death Penalty.

Not because I think it was undeserved, but because I'm a vindictive bastard who would want to see a child molester suffer and not just die.

I mean seriously I can't be the only one thinking that death is the easy way out for these scumbags and that they should suffer and not just "go to sleep".

 

[Clearing the Eye]

Yes, let's all cheer for the death of a man whom may well be innocent of any crime, before we know all the facts -_-

Some times I almost hate the society we live in. Trial by media and such.

We've got people here actually happy with the thought a human being dying. Not only do they not know all the facts, not only could the dead man have been completely innocent, they apparently think it's a good thing the man, if he was actually molesting the girl, is dead. Not like I would expect civilized people living in a developed world to be sad that this event took place. No, no, let's all say how great it is that someone lost their life. Yay! How exciting! It's such a good thing that a little girl may have been molested and a man's life ended. I'm so glad he didn't get caught before hurting her and sent to prison and given psychiatric help!

I'm ashamed to even be apart of this community. We preach how good we are as a people and go on and on about how much better we are than other parts of the world, then some of you break out the champagne when a life is lost.

Sickening.

 

[SnootyEnglishman]

While yes it is a bad thing that someone lost their life, i do not condemn this man for defending his daughter. Any proper parent would do the same in that situation.

 

[crazyfills]

Sorry but I'm still against the Death Penalty.

Not because I think it was undeserved, but because I'm a vindictive bastard who would want to see a child molester suffer and not just die.

I mean seriously I can't be the only one thinking that death is the easy way out for these scumbags and that they should suffer and not just "go to sleep".

Agreed , on a non related note but I would like to add that the guy that killed him should be charged with manslaughter on account of the fact that he was not intending to kill him and he ownly did it to protect his daughter but at the end of the day his actions lead to someone's death and as Mutch of a scumbag as the person molesting his daughter clearly was it shoulnt mean he should get off entirely punishment free.

 

[MrFalconfly]

Yes, let's all cheer for the death of a man whom may well be innocent of any crime, before we know all the facts -_-

Some times I almost hate the society we live in. Trial by media and such.

Speaking of "Rumors" like they are facts is much more interesting. How would this conversation go if we maintained our heads?


"Hmm, he could be guilty, but he could not be."

"Yes, I agree."

"Hmm, quite."

"...."

"...Sooo we're done here, yes?"

Nothing ruins a good discussion like facts do.