that would take up too much space and cause some really weird glitches. however bashing down doors would be nice, but not walls thats just asking too much. besides who wants excessively long load times anyway? I mean I would like to lop off arms and legs but you know what? its too much.TunaCanner said:
The Elder Scrolls 5. what do you want to see?
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Hell, why not give the player a shovel? I look forward to digging enough tunnels underneath a city so it collapses into oblivion?/sarcasm.Albino Ninja said:
Thats completely unrealistic, as Daggerfall took two in game weeks to walk across from one end to the other. Plus, they basically copy and pasted entire towns, so I wouldnt really want to play that.KissofKetchup said:
Oblivion isnt meant to have a good physics engine, its all about its open world. Besides, I bet the only thrown objects that can hurt are traps...Skalman said:
Wonder how it will be in the next Elder Scrolls game...
Morrowind didn't have fast travelling did it?Rankaratar said:
Unless you mean the striders yay~I think if they make a fifth Elder Scrolls that it look good but not sodomize your computer by requiring a super video card and a monster processor. D:!
Thats a silly opinion... unless the game advertises it with pre demo movies. They didnt tell us that you can only initiate the log trap by activating it in the beginning of Oblivion, which was sort of a let down.Skalman said:
Regardless of how strong I am, a common street bandit should be damaged when I ram a horse into him. He wasn't talking about actually wielding the sword, he meant dropping it.Bowstring said:
Not for RPGs.
Hmmm, so your saying an RPG can get away with lying about a great physics system? I wanted to shoot an arrow, and watch them hkill the goblins. Not simply activate it. Speaking of log traps... were did they go when you left that starting dungeon?yourkie1921 said:
Thats a point, I liked the traps in Oblivion, but was unable to actually make any. I'd like the next game to include the ability to set traps.
I'd like to set traps too that would be really cool. and for those of you who read my first post. lets say a rival guild sent someone to kill you, you could have a trap set in front of your door. and I think that hitting the traps should activate then just like actually activating them. the only ones I know that you can hit and activate are the rope traps but you run into them so that doesn't count. how about a more intuitive body hiding system. like being able to dig a hole to bury the body, but you can only dig a hole to hide something then you can come back for it later. this also could make treasure hunting more interesting. I would like the idea of exploring all of tamriel, but it would only be available on the ps3 on one disk. why can't you be in the imperial legion anymore? thats all I can think of right now.
Is it really? I mean is it too much to ask for a decent physics engine these days? When I play a game I want too feel that it's "realistic" so to speak, like realistic in a fantasy/sci-fi environment/setting (depending on the game). And a good solid physics engine adds ALOT to the realism factor in a game.The_Toe_Bighter98 said:
The Oblivion physics engine WAS NOT realistic, and I really disliked it. Like for example, corpses that fall to the ground so slowly you think you've somehow triggered a bullet time effect...
The game was definitely not bad, but the physics engine sucked ass.
And it's not the only game with a bad physics engine, just that oblivion was the one up for discussion at the moment and i could go on listing other games but i probably have better things to do or something... ^^
Well, you just have to remember that Bethesda wasnt concentrating on a good physics engine for Oblivion, and I doubt the fifth Elder Scrolls will have an impressive physics engine. But, I could be wrong, and I just hope that some Bethesda employee reads this topic to add these features into the next Elder Scrolls.Skalman said:
Firstly, let me say that ES is easily my favorite series. The problem that Oblivion had is that the makers read one too many of these threads between Morrowind and Oblivion. Oblivion was Morrowind lite - it went down easier, but there just wasn't as much there.
Fix horses - have them affected by athletics skill so that you aren't gimping your running speed using them.
Melee combat needs fixing like Hilary Clinton needs to shut up.
Make sure that the long-distance view thing WORKS every time. It was stunning, breathtaking even, but when it didn't work it was really disappointing.
Write the code for each area BY HAND. That was what made Morrowind great - thousands and thousands of square miles of area, all lovingly crafted, not 30 square miles lovingly c/p'd a billion times.
Bring back all the old weapon/armor types from Morrowind, perhaps even add more.
ABOVE ALL ELSE!!! Get rid of the random dropped items. That was perhaps the single greatest thing about Morrowind was that you could go somewhere and the thing that was there would still be there. It added a dimension of realism, and created a brilliant exploratory element. It didn't matter if you killed 100,000 people or 10 you still got the items that the people you killed were carrying. If you knew who to kill, you got what you wanted. You didn't have to grind WoW style.
Never have dungeons repop, period.
Get rid of fast travel - it shrunk the effective size of the area down hugely. Bring back the public transportation system that would get you close without taking away the feeling of epic size.
More voice actors - the addition was great, but there needed to be more.
Never, ever go back to the Imperial City or anywhere else originally inhabited by Imperials. Those areas are boring and safe. I read about all these other fascinating places and I want to GO THERE!
More mythical armor/weapons, less stuff I have to make.
Keep, at all costs, the magic system, the char dev system, the skill system, the huge number of books (MORE!), and virtually everything else that I didn't mention as needing changes.
Fix horses - have them affected by athletics skill so that you aren't gimping your running speed using them.
Melee combat needs fixing like Hilary Clinton needs to shut up.
Make sure that the long-distance view thing WORKS every time. It was stunning, breathtaking even, but when it didn't work it was really disappointing.
Write the code for each area BY HAND. That was what made Morrowind great - thousands and thousands of square miles of area, all lovingly crafted, not 30 square miles lovingly c/p'd a billion times.
Bring back all the old weapon/armor types from Morrowind, perhaps even add more.
ABOVE ALL ELSE!!! Get rid of the random dropped items. That was perhaps the single greatest thing about Morrowind was that you could go somewhere and the thing that was there would still be there. It added a dimension of realism, and created a brilliant exploratory element. It didn't matter if you killed 100,000 people or 10 you still got the items that the people you killed were carrying. If you knew who to kill, you got what you wanted. You didn't have to grind WoW style.
Never have dungeons repop, period.
Get rid of fast travel - it shrunk the effective size of the area down hugely. Bring back the public transportation system that would get you close without taking away the feeling of epic size.
More voice actors - the addition was great, but there needed to be more.
Never, ever go back to the Imperial City or anywhere else originally inhabited by Imperials. Those areas are boring and safe. I read about all these other fascinating places and I want to GO THERE!
More mythical armor/weapons, less stuff I have to make.
Keep, at all costs, the magic system, the char dev system, the skill system, the huge number of books (MORE!), and virtually everything else that I didn't mention as needing changes.
I think the most broken thing in the entire game was the god damned magic system. There were really only 20 different spells in the damn game, all of them sucky as hell and no really necromancy existed.
Summoning was the only way to get undead minions, which even the in-game necromancers have to use and it took an eternity for me to recharge enough mana to blast off 3 spells before an enraged orc with an axe chopped my penis off!
It would be more effective to slap them with a wet noodle than chucking a spell at the fuckers!
Sigh...
The next game needs, in order:
1. Good spells.
2. Proper necromancy.
3. Option for minion control, RTS style, perhaps.
4. The ability to buy/take over a castle and use it as a base to conquer the WORLD (with aforementioned minions, possibly trained goblins).
5. Hitboxes.
6. Dismemberment.
7. Stealth instant kills, requiring a set of button presses to pull it off (mini-quick time event).
8. The ability to become a zombie, a vampire or a vengeful, soul eating wraith.
9. Food actually doing something (as in Arx Fatalis).
10. The ability to actually combine and use items logically (again, as in Arx Fatalis).
11. An Assassin's Creed style scaling system (as in Oblivion Irene Metric is mentioned "climbing the church", often).
12. The ability to utilise land for farming and building and hire people to work on your land, such as farmers or builders.
13. The ability to break walls and kill people with falling debris, thus potentially creating the "Awesome Sauce" class of play, knocking things over on people.
14. More than 10 voice actors.
15. The ability to impale people and stick your weapons through things. Perhaps vampires can rip people's hearts out?
16. Cannons.
Summoning was the only way to get undead minions, which even the in-game necromancers have to use and it took an eternity for me to recharge enough mana to blast off 3 spells before an enraged orc with an axe chopped my penis off!
It would be more effective to slap them with a wet noodle than chucking a spell at the fuckers!
Sigh...
The next game needs, in order:
1. Good spells.
2. Proper necromancy.
3. Option for minion control, RTS style, perhaps.
4. The ability to buy/take over a castle and use it as a base to conquer the WORLD (with aforementioned minions, possibly trained goblins).
5. Hitboxes.
6. Dismemberment.
7. Stealth instant kills, requiring a set of button presses to pull it off (mini-quick time event).
8. The ability to become a zombie, a vampire or a vengeful, soul eating wraith.
9. Food actually doing something (as in Arx Fatalis).
10. The ability to actually combine and use items logically (again, as in Arx Fatalis).
11. An Assassin's Creed style scaling system (as in Oblivion Irene Metric is mentioned "climbing the church", often).
12. The ability to utilise land for farming and building and hire people to work on your land, such as farmers or builders.
13. The ability to break walls and kill people with falling debris, thus potentially creating the "Awesome Sauce" class of play, knocking things over on people.
14. More than 10 voice actors.
15. The ability to impale people and stick your weapons through things. Perhaps vampires can rip people's hearts out?
16. Cannons.
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No fast traveling, competing guilds, vampire clans, more lore, better combat, werewolves, horseback combat, more creatures (I shouldn't be finding deer in the Jeralls if the same type of deer was also in Blackwood), more and better voice actors, longer storyline, more weapon types (broadswords, wakizashis, tantos, more sabers/cutlasses, spears and halberds, etc.), levitation, ridiculously powerful spells, short combat (A level 38 stealth fighter shouldn't lose almost all of his health in a fight with one minotaur that lasts 40 or 50+ sword slashes), more durable weapons and armor, better marksman, better stealth, more area variety, MORE RPG!!!
No fast traveling, competing guilds, vampire clans, more lore, better combat, werewolves, horseback combat, more creatures (I shouldn't be finding deer in the Jeralls if the same type of deer was also in Blackwood), more and better voice actors, longer storyline, more weapon types (broadswords, wakizashis, tantos, more sabers/cutlasses, spears and halberds, etc.), levitation, ridiculously powerful spells, short combat (A level 38 stealth fighter shouldn't lose almost all of his health in a fight with one minotaur that lasts 40 or 50+ sword slashes), more durable weapons and armor, better marksman, better stealth, more area variety, MORE RPG!!!
I agree twenty fists. also booze zombie I like the taking control thing, but lets say that you could start a rebellion or at least join one that would eventually topple the empire, the another rebellion could start up, etc. etc. however dismemberment was a joke it wouldn't work on normal npcs, zombies however would be fine. living tissue is much tougher than decomposing tissue. I would like to see impalings. however I want no quick time events in my rpgs. how about it would have to be a combination of your sneak skill and whatever weapon skill to execute a killing blow. the farming idea was cool, but how about making your own town too? it could start out as a small farming village then moves toward a more trade style city.
Actually, with the correct application of force and a big or fast enough weapon, you could dismember a living person's arm or leg, in real life.Albino Ninja said:
Don't know why anyone would actually want to in real life, but... my point is, it'd be fun in a game.