The Escapists faith in the police?
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Pretty much what I think as well. Have had several run-ins with the police during my life, mostly due to my own fault, but once I don't believe me and my friends got treated right.Pirate Kitty said:
It's a long story, so I'll try to narrow it down. Putting it in a spoiler to avoid wall of text for those that aren't intrested.
During a certain festival(closest translation to it) in Sweden we light bonfires and get drunk as hell. That year we were in a huge park where it's rather deserted during the night. After a while we decided to make a little fire to sit around when a van shows up. Out bursts some police officers. They search us all and put out the fire, but they let us keep our alcohol even though we were minors at the time. Upon leaving they told us not to light another fire.
After an hour some of the punk rockers in our group thought it would be clever to light another fire. Pretty short afterwards the police show up again, and this time they were really pissed off.
The first thing they did was to drag me behind their van where they pulled my arm up against my back so far that I thought it was about to snap. At the same time they bashed my head into the van and yelled in my ear. After some beating up they threw me and a friend of mine in the van and drove off with us. I got dropped off in the middle of nowhere. Had no clue where I was or how to get home. My friend was thrown off in the middle of a highway.
The next day I heard from another friend at the party that while I was behind the van another police officer poured beer into my boombox and crushed my CDs at the ground. They also forced the others to take the wood from the fire down to the water, which was rather far away.
I know that we did wrong and I understand why they got pissed, but I still don't think it justifies what they did to us.
After an hour some of the punk rockers in our group thought it would be clever to light another fire. Pretty short afterwards the police show up again, and this time they were really pissed off.
The first thing they did was to drag me behind their van where they pulled my arm up against my back so far that I thought it was about to snap. At the same time they bashed my head into the van and yelled in my ear. After some beating up they threw me and a friend of mine in the van and drove off with us. I got dropped off in the middle of nowhere. Had no clue where I was or how to get home. My friend was thrown off in the middle of a highway.
The next day I heard from another friend at the party that while I was behind the van another police officer poured beer into my boombox and crushed my CDs at the ground. They also forced the others to take the wood from the fire down to the water, which was rather far away.
I know that we did wrong and I understand why they got pissed, but I still don't think it justifies what they did to us.
Had a lot, and i mean a lot of bad experiences with officers, still if an officers is nice and respectful, I will be too. If they start being dicks and generally abusing their authority, I will be a dick to them too. So yeah, i guess it comes down to there are decent police officers, and there are bad apples, although i kinda believe there are a few too many of the later.
Well, I've been arrested for completely bullshit reasons (including the officer's insistence that I was lying when I wasn't), and they've got more reasons to arrest me than reasons to protect me, but all in all? I like the cops, and I trust that they're fairly competent when it matters.
I tend to trust the police. A friend of mine from high school is currently an officer in our local constabulary, and I've talked to him about being an officer a lot, which really have given me a changed opinion of the police.
I know they can be fallible, I'm not an idiot, and I know they're just human, but a lot of the time they are never given the full information about the situations they are in, or are basically being ordered to blindly follow the orders they are given, which may or may not even come from their supervisors. I spoke to my friend after the student riots in London, and he was just as shocked as I was, and apparently no sane Police Chief would have ordered the students to be corralled the way they were, which suggests that he was being ordered to do so by the government, which is possible.
I don't trust any member of the government, which is where most of my distrust of the police comes from, but I do trust the police more than I would trust a regular person.
I know they can be fallible, I'm not an idiot, and I know they're just human, but a lot of the time they are never given the full information about the situations they are in, or are basically being ordered to blindly follow the orders they are given, which may or may not even come from their supervisors. I spoke to my friend after the student riots in London, and he was just as shocked as I was, and apparently no sane Police Chief would have ordered the students to be corralled the way they were, which suggests that he was being ordered to do so by the government, which is possible.
I don't trust any member of the government, which is where most of my distrust of the police comes from, but I do trust the police more than I would trust a regular person.
I generally have confidence in the police. They're doing what they can to help. They will make mistakes, and unfortunately those mistakes might be serious, because anytime people's lives are in the hands of imperfect humans, things can go very wrong.
But no one else could do any better, and officers are honestly in their career not because they want to Punish Some Jerks, but because they want to see the law upheld and because they believe they can make the world a safer place.
I respect that, and I encourage the police to do their jobs. They're not a conspiracy, and we're not in 1984.
But no one else could do any better, and officers are honestly in their career not because they want to Punish Some Jerks, but because they want to see the law upheld and because they believe they can make the world a safer place.
I respect that, and I encourage the police to do their jobs. They're not a conspiracy, and we're not in 1984.
I have faith in my town police department. But i also know there are some crooked cops out there that need to be found. My dad is a police officer and him and his friends are all really good guys. I may take the law enforcement road after i get out of school if not a paralegal.
Aye the police often have a difficult choice to make, not everyone has the same morals or sense of justice. That is why we have Laws though, they are the lines in which Police are supposed to work within, not around or hazy, but then there is the human element, we are not all alike, we don't all maintain to a strict standard. This would be boring, we wouldn't grow as a people. But again that is why the police have such a hard job, the are paragons of the law, not to be held above nor unaccountable. There are a lot of people who think that the police aren't doing their job but from my experience with them (and no it hasn't always been good) cops know exactly what they're doing and they do it well.
I trust police officers most of the time, they're people doing a job like anyone else, and every workplace has the resident arsehole.
However, the sheer amount of bureaucracy and red tape that holds up the police force in Britain these days is ridiculous and thus a lot of problems are left simply because of the amount of trouble it was cause the officers to do so. (warning: following example pulled from arse) 20 pages of paperwork to arrest someone who assaulted a passer-by? Something needs to be fixed there. Just like the entire system in this country.
However, the sheer amount of bureaucracy and red tape that holds up the police force in Britain these days is ridiculous and thus a lot of problems are left simply because of the amount of trouble it was cause the officers to do so. (warning: following example pulled from arse) 20 pages of paperwork to arrest someone who assaulted a passer-by? Something needs to be fixed there. Just like the entire system in this country.
most police officers do their duty without being stupid, so no one ever hears about them. a few do stupid things, so obviously the media and the internet get all over it. in general, police dudes are pretty cool with a strong sense of justice. i've never actually met an officer who was obese and was holding a donut on duty.
True, but we do have to give them a little bit of leeway, because we can't be questioning them about every criminal they bring in.Xojins said:
A police officer, obviously, is an enforcer of the law, a person given the authority to restrict the access of violent or destructive individuals from the general population. However, I myself consider them also to be extensions of the government meant to be held to a higher standard than other people. Being as the great majority of police officers are ordinary men and women, you can see how this quickly becomes a problem.
Whenever you start holding people to a higher standard, they're going to fail. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Not all of them are going to fail, but some of them, certainly, because they are just human.
The biggest problem comes when people disregard the responsibility of setting an example for others and become little more than state-sponsored bullies. While I don't believe it happens that often, I do believe it happens too much.
So...yeah. That's what I think. 'pologies.
Whenever you start holding people to a higher standard, they're going to fail. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Not all of them are going to fail, but some of them, certainly, because they are just human.
The biggest problem comes when people disregard the responsibility of setting an example for others and become little more than state-sponsored bullies. While I don't believe it happens that often, I do believe it happens too much.
So...yeah. That's what I think. 'pologies.
I have the utmost confidence in the police. If anything I think the controls on them should be more relaxed. I want to see them giving Saturday night loud mouths in the town centre a solid, bloody, beat down, not a stern warning to leave the area.
The police here (Britain) should be allowed to carry firearms and encouraged to use them. Keep the dick 'eds in line. You know that fella that got stabbed at the bustop recently? Somehow I think he'd still be alive today if the offender knew he was gonna get a ribcage full of lead if he tried anything.
EDITFORMOAR: I also think they should be given a more intimidating uniform. More Helghan esque.
The police here (Britain) should be allowed to carry firearms and encouraged to use them. Keep the dick 'eds in line. You know that fella that got stabbed at the bustop recently? Somehow I think he'd still be alive today if the offender knew he was gonna get a ribcage full of lead if he tried anything.
EDITFORMOAR: I also think they should be given a more intimidating uniform. More Helghan esque.