The Escapists faith in the police?
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I trust cops until they give me a reason not to. The vast majority of cops I've had to deal with are generally very good at their jobs and decent individuals. I think you're confusing absolutist faith in the police with simply respecting them for the work they do.
I've had run-ins with the police before over various things, and in most cases as long as I was respectful they treated me well. I've gotten out of possession charges twice by simply talking to the cop as a mature adult and then dumping my weed. The only bad case I've ever had was when I was going to driver's ed in high school with a friend and one of the local cops thought we were trying to buy drugs and forced us up against the wall.
I've had run-ins with the police before over various things, and in most cases as long as I was respectful they treated me well. I've gotten out of possession charges twice by simply talking to the cop as a mature adult and then dumping my weed. The only bad case I've ever had was when I was going to driver's ed in high school with a friend and one of the local cops thought we were trying to buy drugs and forced us up against the wall.
I do not have confidence in the police or legal system as it seems we have alot of people who wield power over the public and use it when they want to.Also the higher ups do not seem to regulate the police or there power and seem to be happy aslong as they get arrests.
The rare good police also seem to be police law they do not fully understand down to no fault of there own but due the legal systems creating unforceable or vague laws
The rare good police also seem to be police law they do not fully understand down to no fault of there own but due the legal systems creating unforceable or vague laws
I don't trust police at all, don't get me wrong some are petty cool, but most that I have meet not really. I think they have to much power and when they do break the law they aren't punished like they should be. They always seem just to get off with a temporary suspension when any normal person would end up in jail.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXNJ3MZ-AUodastardly said:
It might be possible that he underestimated the weight of a person. To pull a person out of a chair you yank them suddenly but rarely compensate for their weight afterwoulds, you go and pull a mate out of a chair to the ground and see if you don't stagger back with them a little.
This man may not even be fully capable to fling himself bodily from his chair. I personally see the police officer with his arms around the guy as pulling him. The chair is being wheeled behind him by his brother who is trying to get the police to put him back in it while they drag him along the ground. His disability is only being used as an excuse for the
accusations of attacking police officers.
Perhaps after watching the clip and finding out more about the even your opinions will change?
I have excellent faith in the South Wales Police. To be honest they're very fair around me. And they tend to crack down on idiots rather nicely.
Absolutely couldn't have said this better myself.Elcarsh said:
It was ridiculous to see just how many people jumped on the band wagon to claim that the police were in the wrong, or that they were cruel to animals simply because. But it was even more ridiculous for so many people to sit there and make such a huge generalization or assumption based off it, and it alone.
Perhaps they were in the wrong, but that video was taken out of context, the audio was removed, and it was thrown up by someone openly and loudly against animal cruelty. Either way, there simply isn't enough of anything to support either claim, so why make such claims at all? It was a sad video, but to go beyond that is hardly fair.
There's no one else I can go to if my stuff gets stolen or I get assaulted/mugged/whatever.
At the end of the day, despite moaning about them we go to them when we need help.
I rarely see police in my area. It's usually about 2/3 months when I see them around again.
At the end of the day, despite moaning about them we go to them when we need help.
I rarely see police in my area. It's usually about 2/3 months when I see them around again.
My best friends a cop.
But anyway, I would be more worried about the Justice system than the Police. I mean the Police are just enforcing the law and it's their job to bring the crooks in. The douche bags that hold law degrees on the other hand allow child rapists and serial killers to go free or have extremely reduced sentences when they should be in there for life.
But anyway, I would be more worried about the Justice system than the Police. I mean the Police are just enforcing the law and it's their job to bring the crooks in. The douche bags that hold law degrees on the other hand allow child rapists and serial killers to go free or have extremely reduced sentences when they should be in there for life.
I did have faith in the police... That was, until I participated in the London protests on the 9th december. I've also lost faith in the media that day too, who were portraying the police as heroes and putting the protesters in a very negative light. Ask anybody who was at Parliament Square that day and we will all tell you the same thing - the police were acting atrociously and blatantly illegally. They were deliberately intimidating us, crushing us into one another and illegally detaining us. Much of the violence was triggered by paniced people fighting back at the police who were terrifying them - very few of the protesters were in fact causing violence out of pure malicious intent, and in many cases I saw fellow protesters, not the police, stopping such people from escalating the violence more than the police already had. Since that day I've honestly completely lost faith in not just the police, but also in our media and the politicians too.
I appreciate the information, but really, no change here. The cop doesn't have arms around the kid--he's got a hand on him. It's basically fully-extended at all times, and I don't know if you've tried to push or pull something with a fully-extended arm, but it doesn't work well at all. Again, it appears the yellow-jacketed cop in the foreground is being pulled at all times.Jackhorse said:
From your link, I did learn that there were two such incidents with the same subject. This video was of the second. Amazing it is, then, that this second one happened to be caught on video. This reinforces the appearance that this was planned and staged. Maybe it was the kid's idea, maybe some blokes put him up to it.
If I was trying to move a kid out of the middle of the road (still issue #1), and he showed he was unwilling to move on his own or be wheeled, and then he dove for the ground (note: I didn't say threw himself, but took a dive. He's perfectly capable of an intentional fall forward if he's able to operate that chair.), I wouldn't even consider putting him back in the chair. That would be resetting things to square one. Instead, I'd remove him and then put him back.
Any decent cop would do the same thing if a normal, healthy subject decided to squat down in the middle of the street and refuse to be moved. And they would be completely within rights to do so if the subject wasn't legally supposed to be there. Just so happens everyone goes, "Shame shame!" because this guy is physically handicapped. Not mentally, though. He knows exactly what he's doing.
Well, I'm glad there are police. They have a tough job and they don't always get a lot of respect for it, especially amongst the sorts of people they mostly have to deal with. And really, the police in the town I live in now are great. I haven't really had many personal experiences with police, but most of the ones I have had have been... as good as can be expected given the circumstances.
That all being said, they have a lot of power, and power does corrupt. I will always be a bit wary around any police officer I don't personally know. More so than around other strangers. It's not so much that I think they're more likely to be bad people and more that I think the weak willed and not so nice in the police force have a lot more potential to do really, really awful things. I'm grateful to the vast majority of police that are just doing a frustrating, miserable and dangerous job, I'm just careful about what that kind of thing can do to a person who's carrying a gun and buddies with the all people that are supposed to be protecting me from crazy people with guns.
That all being said, they have a lot of power, and power does corrupt. I will always be a bit wary around any police officer I don't personally know. More so than around other strangers. It's not so much that I think they're more likely to be bad people and more that I think the weak willed and not so nice in the police force have a lot more potential to do really, really awful things. I'm grateful to the vast majority of police that are just doing a frustrating, miserable and dangerous job, I'm just careful about what that kind of thing can do to a person who's carrying a gun and buddies with the all people that are supposed to be protecting me from crazy people with guns.
Most regular officers are shit whom I don't have any faith in or at least the officers where I'm from,they're corrupted and moronic .I was fucking arrested in my fucking highschool junior year for TALKING in the halls TALKING, TALKING IN THE HALLS not yelling not causing a disturbance but whispering my friend "goodbye,cya at lunch mate".
Apparently I was SO FUCKING MUCH of a disturbance to the people taking there ap finals two rooms down that I was arrested.I was pulled out of class thrown up against the wall and had my 2000 dollar classical guitar thrown on the floor.
Best part was the fucking dumbass cops searching me found my pocket constitution and asked me what it was.I ended up spending 16 hours in county jail,in a jail cell with a convicted fucking murder.Honestly most everyday men in blue can go fuck themselves I only have respect for Detectives who actually solve crimes.
Apparently I was SO FUCKING MUCH of a disturbance to the people taking there ap finals two rooms down that I was arrested.I was pulled out of class thrown up against the wall and had my 2000 dollar classical guitar thrown on the floor.
Best part was the fucking dumbass cops searching me found my pocket constitution and asked me what it was.I ended up spending 16 hours in county jail,in a jail cell with a convicted fucking murder.Honestly most everyday men in blue can go fuck themselves I only have respect for Detectives who actually solve crimes.
I would trust a veterinarian to know what to do for a Viagra erection that lasts longer than 4 hours than most cops. Pretty much every cop I have ever had the pleasure of running into pulled some kind of stupid bullshit. Even as low as the cop checking parking meters pulled some serious bullshit. I just put a half hour on the meter and about 5 minutes later the cop comes by, sees the meter, resets the time left on it to 0 and writes a ticket for letting the parking meter expire. So the $1 spent on the parking meter turns into a $30-something ticket.
While there is a lot of truth in that, it's not that simple.instantbenz said:
People seem to forget, that police officers in real life can't act on their gut feelings and the like. Real life is not the big screen, do not mistake it for it. Whether individual officers know of such acts or not is irrelevant.
Police officers don't really have much authority of their own.
My opinions are varied when it comes to the police. I've been stopped before for a search simply for walking past them while they were searching some other lads. I was just going down to the shop to get some milk for my mother and I got stopped and treated like a criminal.
Then I was walking around the reservoir with my cousin, filming with my video camera... Nothing real important, just thought we'd have a day out and thought to tape it. I got stopped again and the camera was taken off of me for suspicious behaviour.
My brother was pinned up against a wall and chocked by a community officer because he was with more than two people his age and that equals a gang... Somehow.
I once almost got arrested because some idiot joyride ran through my garden and they'd thought I'd done it... Despite that fact that I was in my dressing gowned, wearing slippers and I don't own a car and didn't even have a provisional license at that time.
My mother was pepper sprayed along with some other random people who were walking to the shop while they were arresting some kid. My mum was then arrested for walking past. My brother was punched in the face and then arrested during that time and my little brother was pushed over a wall... Then arrested.
So yeah, I've had some bad experiences with cops. Which casts some doubts on how good they are. Trust has been shaken quite a bit. However I've met some really nice cops who are just looking at it as their job. Heck, one of the lads at the gym I'm at is a police officer (Yeah I get to punch a police officer when I go to the gym... If only we had a traffic warden too) and he's a pretty decent, trustworthy fellow... So you know... I guess it all comes down to the person rather than the occupation.
That being said, as a police officer you have a good amount of power in your hands and that's power that can easily be abused, I don't think they should allow arseholes to be police officers or have any amount of power at all.
Then I was walking around the reservoir with my cousin, filming with my video camera... Nothing real important, just thought we'd have a day out and thought to tape it. I got stopped again and the camera was taken off of me for suspicious behaviour.
My brother was pinned up against a wall and chocked by a community officer because he was with more than two people his age and that equals a gang... Somehow.
I once almost got arrested because some idiot joyride ran through my garden and they'd thought I'd done it... Despite that fact that I was in my dressing gowned, wearing slippers and I don't own a car and didn't even have a provisional license at that time.
My mother was pepper sprayed along with some other random people who were walking to the shop while they were arresting some kid. My mum was then arrested for walking past. My brother was punched in the face and then arrested during that time and my little brother was pushed over a wall... Then arrested.
So yeah, I've had some bad experiences with cops. Which casts some doubts on how good they are. Trust has been shaken quite a bit. However I've met some really nice cops who are just looking at it as their job. Heck, one of the lads at the gym I'm at is a police officer (Yeah I get to punch a police officer when I go to the gym... If only we had a traffic warden too) and he's a pretty decent, trustworthy fellow... So you know... I guess it all comes down to the person rather than the occupation.
That being said, as a police officer you have a good amount of power in your hands and that's power that can easily be abused, I don't think they should allow arseholes to be police officers or have any amount of power at all.