I've been playing a lot of Fallout recently.
Does a vault joke fit here? It feels like it does.
Does a vault joke fit here? It feels like it does.
I know I'm breaking my own rule by responding to you (you're a good poster when it comes to everything else, but in pony threads you may as well be a religious fundamentalist for all the good arguing with you will do), but I have to defend the Hitler thing: the guy who did that was saying that Mr. Allen is no more representative of bronies than Hitler is of the human race as a whole. In fact, I'd go so far as to say he's less representative of bronies than Hitler is of humans, because bronies tend to be quite a bit younger than Luke, while the human race does have a tendency to commit genocide. Bronies are mostly highschool and college students who are too old to fit in the target demographic for most cartoons, but too unemployable to avoid having lots of free time. Many of them fill this time with cartoons, and many of those people like My Little Pony. Hence, bronies.Xanthious said:I gotta say, if I were Luke Allen, the fella in the pic below, I would be pissed at the brony community. This guy went out and on record in an interview standing up for the bronies and put his face out there as a proud brony and the brony community can't distance themselves far enough away from that poor bastard. They get out there spouting off about love and understanding and tolerance but as soon as someone brings up ole Luke into the conversation you'd think that the person in question just called all bronies something beyond horrible. Tolerance, Love and Understanding go right out the window as soon as he's brought up.
Hell I brought him up in this thread and one of em went straight for the Hitler card. Where's the community when it comes to standing up for ole Luke, a proud member of their community? You don't see a single one of em say "Yeah that's a member of our community and we are proud to have him". Quite the contrary. They get away from him like roaches scattering from light. I guess tolerance and understanding are all well and good just as long as you don't make the mistake of standing up for the brony community and take a somewhat unfortunate picture.
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he's right in a sense. They would appear to be the new "furries" from an outsider's perspective on both. In the sense of, "Agh what is this bizarre trend that kills my boner".Kingpopadopalus said:Cant tell if troll or just really really dumb.TheFathomlessMaster said:Bronies are the new furries.
the issue is that itRGman said:Hear, hear
Likewise if you like something, "You don't have to be a dick about it"mega48man said:there is no such thing as a pony free zone....and i LIKE it that way!!!Tom Milner said:take cover in my facebook page, it's a pony free zone.
JOIN THE WHITE BULLETS TO BAND AGAINST THE BRONY MENACE!
But my point in the post you quoted still stands and was just beautifully demonstrated by you. You folks can't distance yourselves far enough away from this guy and it's hilarious. You didn't come out defending Luke you came out and said he is the "brony version of Godwin's Law". Hell you said people are more likely to be prone to genocide, fucking genocide man, than bronies are to be anything like Luke Allen. Could you throw him under the bus a little further?Owyn_Merrilin said:I know I'm breaking my own rule by responding to you (you're a good poster when it comes to everything else, but in pony threads you may as well be a religious fundamentalist for all the good arguing with you will do), but I have to defend the Hitler thing: the guy who did that was saying that Mr. Allen is no more representative of bronies than Hitler is of the human race as a whole. In fact, I'd go so far as to say he's less representative of bronies than Hitler is of humans, because bronies tend to be quite a bit younger than Luke, while the human race does have a tendency to commit genocide. Bronies are mostly highschool and college students who are too old to fit in the target demographic for most cartoons, but too unemployable to avoid having lots of free time. Many of them fill this time with cartoons, and many of those people like My Little Pony. Hence, bronies.
Edit: To make it even more clear, he wasn't saying that Luke Allen was on the same level in any way as Hitler is. He was saying that referencing him is almost as pointless as referencing Hitler; he was calling a brony version of Godwin's law on you, before you called the standard one on him.
Hey, man, some of us just like the cartoon and don't really care about the love and tolerance crap -- and among the ones who do, there's a bit of a divide over whether it was ever anything more than a joke to begin with. You'll notice that my avatar is from Mobile Suit Gundam, not My Little Pony.Xanthious said:But my point in the post you quoted still stands and was just beautifully demonstrated by you. You folks can't distance yourselves far enough away from this guy and it's hilarious. You didn't come out defending Luke you came out and said he the "brony version of Godwin's Law". Hell you said people are more likely to be similar to Hitler than bronies are to be like Luke Allen. Could you throw him under the bus a little further?Owyn_Merrilin said:I know I'm breaking my own rule by responding to you (you're a good poster when it comes to everything else, but in pony threads you may as well be a religious fundamentalist for all the good arguing with you will do), but I have to defend the Hitler thing: the guy who did that was saying that Mr. Allen is no more representative of bronies than Hitler is of the human race as a whole. In fact, I'd go so far as to say he's less representative of bronies than Hitler is of humans, because bronies tend to be quite a bit younger than Luke, while the human race does have a tendency to commit genocide. Bronies are mostly highschool and college students who are too old to fit in the target demographic for most cartoons, but too unemployable to avoid having lots of free time. Many of them fill this time with cartoons, and many of those people like My Little Pony. Hence, bronies.
Edit: To make it even more clear, he wasn't saying that Luke Allen was on the same level in any way as Hitler is. He was saying that referencing him is almost as pointless as referencing Hitler; he was calling a brony version of Godwin's law on you, before you called the standard one on him.
This guy went out and did an interview saying "Yeah there are chaps out there that like My Little Pony, I'm one of em and it's ok be this way" and for coming out and defending the lot of you bronies he's been pretty much ostracized for his troubles. Love, tolerance and understanding indeed.
If being a gamer carried the same stigmas that being a brony carried (guess what sunshine most people see bronies in a VERY poor light whether you want to admit it or not) and someone came out and stood up for us like Luke did for bronies I may not invite him over for Thanksgiving dinner but I sure as Hell wouldn't throw him under the bus when he was brought up as the brony community does to Luke. He was out there defending you guys against public perceptions of pretty horrible things, that takes balls, and the people he was standing up for are treating him worst of all.Owyn_Merrilin said:Hey, man, some of us just like the cartoon and don't really care about the love and tolerance crap -- and among the ones who do, there's a bit of a divide over whether it was ever anything more than a joke to begin with. You'll notice that my avatar is from Mobile Suit Gundam, not My Little Pony.
Edit: As for why bronies try to distance themselves from him, he was picked by a sensationalist news outlet for an article that painted all bronies as creepy basement dwelling 30+ year olds. If someone had done an article abut gamers and picked a guy like that to be representative, and then people started actually thinking that's what all gamers were like, you mean to tell me you wouldn't want to correct them?
I don't think you understand; this guy is where most of the stereotypes originated from. The Godwin's law thing is an accurate comparison; mentioning him is almost as grating to bronies as the old "Hitler was a vegetarian" line is to vegetarians. He's not representative of bronies as a group, but he's the go to example.Xanthious said:If being a gamer carried the same stigmas that being a brony carried (guess what sunshine most people see bronies in a VERY poor light whether you want to admit it or not) and someone came out and stood up for us like Luke did for bronies I may not invite him over for Thanksgiving dinner but I sure as Hell wouldn't throw him under the bus when he was brought up as the brony community does to Luke. He was out there defending you guys against public perceptions of pretty horrible things, that takes balls, and the people he was standing up for are treating him worst of all.Owyn_Merrilin said:Hey, man, some of us just like the cartoon and don't really care about the love and tolerance crap -- and among the ones who do, there's a bit of a divide over whether it was ever anything more than a joke to begin with. You'll notice that my avatar is from Mobile Suit Gundam, not My Little Pony.
Edit: As for why bronies try to distance themselves from him, he was picked by a sensationalist news outlet for an article that painted all bronies as creepy basement dwelling 30+ year olds. If someone had done an article abut gamers and picked a guy like that to be representative, and then people started actually thinking that's what all gamers were like, you mean to tell me you wouldn't want to correct them?
Ok you think that one unfortunate picture from an interview is what made the public turn on grown men who like My Little Pony? You think folks saw nothing wrong with grown men watching a show made for little girls until Luke talked to wired.com? You got to be kidding me!Owyn_Merrilin said:I don't think you understand; this guy is where most of the stereotypes originated from. The Godwin's law thing is an accurate comparison; mentioning him is almost as grating to bronies as the old "Hitler was a vegetarian" line is to vegetarians. He's not representative of bronies as a group, but he's the go to example.
Not the picture, the interview itself. The article painted bronies as middle aged basement dwellers, and they managed to find a brony who fit the description.Xanthious said:Ok you think that one unfortunate picture from an interview is what made the public turn on grown men who like My Little Pony? You think folks saw nothing wrong with grown men watching a show made for little girls until Luke talked to wired.com? You got to be kidding me!Owyn_Merrilin said:I don't think you understand; this guy is where most of the stereotypes originated from. The Godwin's law thing is an accurate comparison; mentioning him is almost as grating to bronies as the old "Hitler was a vegetarian" line is to vegetarians. He's not representative of bronies as a group, but he's the go to example.
Tell ya what, go talk to some people who wouldn't know what a brony or who Luke Allen were if their lives depended on it. Go find some soccer moms or maybe some random guys at a mall and ask them what they think of grown me who, not only watch My Little Pony, but go online to discuss it with other grown men. I think you'll find in the big picture Luke Allen has fuck all to do with where the bad stereotypes come from.
Beyond all that though it does nothing to change the fact the guy was out there trying to defend the lot of you. I'm not saying you guys need to set up fan pages to him but you don't need to look for the nearest bus to toss him under when he's brought up either.
I simply wanted to say... Genius response...Sizzle Montyjing said:No problem citizen!genericusername64 said:Thanks for the heads up Brony, I'll be sure to build an e-bombshelter
No need to thank me!
*flys off into the sunset*
hehehehe your funnyDandark said:I stand ready to defend against the Brony menace with my ability to shatter the hopes and dreams of Bronies everywhere.