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Kaboose the Moose

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jasoncyrus said:
In britain too, I don't have a high opinion of the military much since they refuse to carpet bomb their enemies into oblivion anymore. Pussies.
Carpet bombing is only logical if the enemy is grouped together. They tend to be doing less of that as of late. I think they might have worked out the flaw in that approach. Also annoyingly, enemy buildings tend to be built less close together now. Damn military engineers are ruining everyone's fun!.

Besides it's a waste of ammunition to carpet bomb the enemy and anyone saying otherwise is just wanting a light show.
 

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I joined the NZ Territorials but they don't force you to join any branch of the military in NZ - couldn't afford to. Terrors are pretty good, you get a slimmed-down basic, have 20 days obligatory service a year, (training exercises etc.) and get to do all the fun stuff that the Regulars get to do, (guns, grenades and guts.) Only place they ever serve is in the Solomons on peacekeeping duty - of course if there's ever a large-scale war I'd be among the first to be called up but I figure if there's ever another war big enough for that then there's probably going to be drafting going on and in that case I'd rather be well-trained and pulled up to fight as a soldier rather than completely unco and pulled up to get my arse shot off as cannon-fodder.
 

Lyiat

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We call it the "Draft" over here in America, and we abolished that back after ol' WW2.
 

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I can't say we have that sort of thing here in NZ, because tbh we don't.

However, people on the unemployment benefit may be forced by Work & Income NZ (i.e. government bureaucrats with a predilection for hiring only useless and inefficient employees) to take part in a military-style training course for 6 weeks or so at a military camp, so stuff that.
 

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Well,there is a conscription in all former USSR countries,and our army is unattractive enough to not want getting in there. Luckily,i'm not going to be conscripted anyway,because by military standards,i'm batshit insane. No-one in their right mind would not hand me a gun or a tank.
 

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Skarin said:
jasoncyrus said:
In britain too, I don't have a high opinion of the military much since they refuse to carpet bomb their enemies into oblivion anymore. Pussies.
Carpet bombing is only logical if the enemy is grouped together. They tend to be doing less of that as of late. I think they might have worked out the flaw in that approach. Also annoyingly, enemy buildings tend to be built less close together now. Damn military engineers are ruining everyone's fun!.

Besides it's a waste of ammunition to carpet bomb the enemy and anyone saying otherwise is just wanting a light show.
Who said anything about military buildings? Carpet bombing is for use on civilians too dumb to realise they're on the wrong side. Plus if you are in danger of being slaughtered mercilessly, people will throw those responsible to the dogs so to speak.
 

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Lyiat said:
We call it the "Draft" over here in America, and we abolished that back after ol' WW2.
Ever heard of selective service?
They can call it right back in if they want to.
 

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jasoncyrus said:
Skarin said:
jasoncyrus said:
In britain too, I don't have a high opinion of the military much since they refuse to carpet bomb their enemies into oblivion anymore. Pussies.
Carpet bombing is only logical if the enemy is grouped together. They tend to be doing less of that as of late. I think they might have worked out the flaw in that approach. Also annoyingly, enemy buildings tend to be built less close together now. Damn military engineers are ruining everyone's fun!.

Besides it's a waste of ammunition to carpet bomb the enemy and anyone saying otherwise is just wanting a light show.
Who said anything about military buildings? Carpet bombing is for use on civilians too dumb to realise they're on the wrong side. Plus if you are in danger of being slaughtered mercilessly, people will throw those responsible to the dogs so to speak.
Yeah... because your really going to try to throw the other people who will just turn you into swiss cheese for attempting to overthrow them to the dogs. Its just that easy.

ReincarnatedFTP said:
Lyiat said:
We call it the "Draft" over here in America, and we abolished that back after ol' WW2.
Ever heard of selective service?
They can call it right back in if they want to.
Yes, they -can-, but it would involve a lot of litigation and a lengthy meeting of Congress and massive support from both the people and the bureaucracy. I honestly doubt we will ever see another Draft unless we run into a non-nuclear WW3 or if we get invaded.
 

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Lyiat said:
We call it the "Draft" over here in America, and we abolished that back after ol' WW2.
Didn't the US still have consription during the Vietnam war?
 

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Lyiat said:
jasoncyrus said:
Skarin said:
jasoncyrus said:
In britain too, I don't have a high opinion of the military much since they refuse to carpet bomb their enemies into oblivion anymore. Pussies.
Carpet bombing is only logical if the enemy is grouped together. They tend to be doing less of that as of late. I think they might have worked out the flaw in that approach. Also annoyingly, enemy buildings tend to be built less close together now. Damn military engineers are ruining everyone's fun!.

Besides it's a waste of ammunition to carpet bomb the enemy and anyone saying otherwise is just wanting a light show.
Who said anything about military buildings? Carpet bombing is for use on civilians too dumb to realise they're on the wrong side. Plus if you are in danger of being slaughtered mercilessly, people will throw those responsible to the dogs so to speak.
Yeah... because your really going to try to throw the other people who will just turn you into swiss cheese for attempting to overthrow them to the dogs. Its just that easy.
Pssh, his plan is to turn everyone into enemies so we can just kill them all and call it self defense.

After all, fuck civilians and innocents amirite?
 

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ReincarnatedFTP said:
Lyiat said:
We call it the "Draft" over here in America, and we abolished that back after ol' WW2.
Ever heard of selective service?
They can call it right back in if they want to.
Indeed. They did during Vietnam. Didn't take much for them to bring it back in that case.
 

jasoncyrus

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Lyiat said:
jasoncyrus said:
Skarin said:
jasoncyrus said:
In britain too, I don't have a high opinion of the military much since they refuse to carpet bomb their enemies into oblivion anymore. Pussies.
Carpet bombing is only logical if the enemy is grouped together. They tend to be doing less of that as of late. I think they might have worked out the flaw in that approach. Also annoyingly, enemy buildings tend to be built less close together now. Damn military engineers are ruining everyone's fun!.

Besides it's a waste of ammunition to carpet bomb the enemy and anyone saying otherwise is just wanting a light show.
Who said anything about military buildings? Carpet bombing is for use on civilians too dumb to realise they're on the wrong side. Plus if you are in danger of being slaughtered mercilessly, people will throw those responsible to the dogs so to speak.
Yeah... because your really going to try to throw the other people who will just turn you into swiss cheese for attempting to overthrow them to the dogs. Its just that easy.
In all honesty, yeah it is. But it all relies on the entire country going for it. Nazi germany used a similar doctorine of fear, instead of carpet bombing it was disappearing in the night never to be seen again. Sure it was flawed but while they were in power the gustapo (however its spelt) seemed to be quite efficient at rooting out such people.

Also when given a choice between life and death, mob stupidity and fear will overcome the threat of militants.
 

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Eleuthera said:
Lyiat said:
We call it the "Draft" over here in America, and we abolished that back after ol' WW2.


Didn't the US still have consription during the Vietnam war?
... -checks- Ah, they abolished it in 1973. My bad.
 

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I'd like to see a similar system in Australia. I reckon it'd sort out a fair few culture problems. But i think they should give the choice of paid military service or unpaid work with emergency services such as the ambulance, fire brigade or SES (State Emergency Service). That way everyone's doing something for the community.
 

Kaboose the Moose

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jasoncyrus said:
Skarin said:
jasoncyrus said:
In britain too, I don't have a high opinion of the military much since they refuse to carpet bomb their enemies into oblivion anymore. Pussies.
Carpet bombing is only logical if the enemy is grouped together. They tend to be doing less of that as of late. I think they might have worked out the flaw in that approach. Also annoyingly, enemy buildings tend to be built less close together now. Damn military engineers are ruining everyone's fun!.

Besides it's a waste of ammunition to carpet bomb the enemy and anyone saying otherwise is just wanting a light show.
Who said anything about military buildings? Carpet bombing is for use on civilians too dumb to realise they're on the wrong side. Plus if you are in danger of being slaughtered mercilessly, people will throw those responsible to the dogs so to speak.
I think we have read two very different copies of the Geneva Convention!.

If by chance you meant enemy soldiers, then as I said, they are not very stupid. At least, not to be out in the open and bunched up to be atomized by bombs.

Also, building and structures are common carpet bombing targets. Just so you know. The point is, carpet bombing isn't what it used to be.
 

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I know Israel and South Korea have mandatory conscription at 18, but lucky me the American.
 

jasoncyrus

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Skarin said:
jasoncyrus said:
Skarin said:
jasoncyrus said:
In britain too, I don't have a high opinion of the military much since they refuse to carpet bomb their enemies into oblivion anymore. Pussies.
Carpet bombing is only logical if the enemy is grouped together. They tend to be doing less of that as of late. I think they might have worked out the flaw in that approach. Also annoyingly, enemy buildings tend to be built less close together now. Damn military engineers are ruining everyone's fun!.

Besides it's a waste of ammunition to carpet bomb the enemy and anyone saying otherwise is just wanting a light show.
Who said anything about military buildings? Carpet bombing is for use on civilians too dumb to realise they're on the wrong side. Plus if you are in danger of being slaughtered mercilessly, people will throw those responsible to the dogs so to speak.
I think we have read two very different copies of the Geneva Convention!.

If by chance you meant enemy soldiers, then as I said, they are not very stupid. At least, not to be out in the open and bunched up to be atomized by bombs.

Also, building and structures are common carpet bombing targets. Just so you know.
Pfftt the geneva Convention is for scared idiots who don't want to have to mass produce body bags.

War is not meant to be kind to people, war is meant for KILLING people for EXTERMINATING tribes, races and other countries. It's only in the last century or so that we've started feeling guilty over it. Grow some stones and realise it's better to kill a few thousand civilians as incentive than to waste time trying to be surgical about it. Soemtimes a broadsword really is a better tool than a scalpel.
 

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jasoncyrus said:
Skarin said:
jasoncyrus said:
Skarin said:
jasoncyrus said:
In britain too, I don't have a high opinion of the military much since they refuse to carpet bomb their enemies into oblivion anymore. Pussies.
Carpet bombing is only logical if the enemy is grouped together. They tend to be doing less of that as of late. I think they might have worked out the flaw in that approach. Also annoyingly, enemy buildings tend to be built less close together now. Damn military engineers are ruining everyone's fun!.

Besides it's a waste of ammunition to carpet bomb the enemy and anyone saying otherwise is just wanting a light show.
Who said anything about military buildings? Carpet bombing is for use on civilians too dumb to realise they're on the wrong side. Plus if you are in danger of being slaughtered mercilessly, people will throw those responsible to the dogs so to speak.
I think we have read two very different copies of the Geneva Convention!.

If by chance you meant enemy soldiers, then as I said, they are not very stupid. At least, not to be out in the open and bunched up to be atomized by bombs.

Also, building and structures are common carpet bombing targets. Just so you know.
Pfftt the geneva Convention is for scared idiots who don't want to have to mass produce body bags.

War is not meant to be kind to people, war is meant for KILLING people for EXTERMINATING tribes, races and other countries. It's only in the last century or so that we've started feeling guilty over it. Grow some stones and realise it's better to kill a few thousand civilians as incentive than to waste time trying to be surgical about it. Soemtimes a broadsword really is a better tool than a scalpel.
Untill you realize that a single missile can kill every single militant in a building with one shot without killing a bunch of civilians with the -same- result, and in a much cheaper fashion than thirty bombs clustered together?
 

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Somthing said:
Britain used to have National Service and there are some thoughts that it ought to come back but I can't be arsed to explain the pros and cons, I'm sure you can look it up.

In case you're worried about your own national service my best friend is a Dane who did it when he was about 18 and he looks back on it as one of the best times of his life.
 

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jasoncyrus said:
Pfftt the geneva Convention is for scared idiots who don't want to have to mass produce body bags.

War is not meant to be kind to people, war is meant for KILLING people for EXTERMINATING tribes, races and other countries. It's only in the last century or so that we've started feeling guilty over it. Grow some stones and realise it's better to kill a few thousand civilians as incentive than to waste time trying to be surgical about it. Soemtimes a broadsword really is a better tool than a scalpel.
Okay, so you condoned Nazi Germany as a place to be emulated in warfare, so you condone fascism.
You've also condoned terrorism, so while I can't make you take that back, I'd at least like to make sure you stay consistent.You have basically lost the right to whine about terrorism being bad, and have stated that civilians are justified targets.

You basically agree with the 9/11 hijackers and Hitler, good to know.