The New UK Spending Cuts

[7moreDead_v1legacy]

Yeah it did and I know how you feel. I'm dreading all this more because they didn't treat Scotland very well the last time they were in power.

Also, that is a terrible mental image.

Northern Ireland/Scotland/Wales

Annual budget: £55.5bn

What's being cut?: Scotland's block grant to fall by 6.8% by 2014-5. SNP ministers have said that cuts to the Scottish budget will threaten 12,000 jobs. Central funding for Wales is to be cut by 7.5% - the Welsh Assembly Government says its budget will be cut by £1.8bn in real terms over four years. Northern Ireland funding to be reduced by 6.9% over four years, First Minister Peter Robinson has said cuts to be implemented in Northern Ireland are worse than he had anticipated.

Not sure how much use that is for your fears but Wales wins with 7.5%...Though no idea really what it entails

 

[Jonny49]

Well, fuck this shit. I'm going to colonize Mars.

 

[Angerwing]

I think what a lot of you are overlooking is that they want to fire half a million people. I'm sorry, I know a lot of people see public servants as useless and ubiquitous, but that's half a fucking million people being fired just to save money. If those figures were applied to any other industry, the riots would clog the streets. My parents and both of their partners are all public servants (albeit, high ranking ones from Australia), and the idea of someone else's parent losing their job just so the government can tighten their pockets is shocking. I think cutting back the public service should be an absolute last resort, especially with unemployment rates so high already.

 

[Verlander]

If it were to happen I'd be more than happy to wield a pitchfork and a torch against the armed wall of bureaucracy.

A bullet for freedom anyday.

sounds like you and some other people here might be interested in this, its not quite a revolution, but its a start.
http://www.counterfire.org/index.php/blogs/66-luna17-activist/6155-10-november-nusucu-national-demonstration-to-oppose-education-cuts

I thought they weren't cutting education along with NHS? I'll support though, due to retarded "Universities set their own fees" laws.

 

[lewism247]

the last time they were in power.

Northern Ireland/Scotland/Wales

Annual budget: £55.5bn

What's being cut?: Scotland's block grant to fall by 6.8% by 2014-5. SNP ministers have said that cuts to the Scottish budget will threaten 12,000 jobs. Central funding for Wales is to be cut by 7.5% - the Welsh Assembly Government says its budget will be cut by £1.8bn in real terms over four years. Northern Ireland funding to be reduced by 6.9% over four years, First Minister Peter Robinson has said cuts to be implemented in Northern Ireland are worse than he had anticipated.

Not sure how much use that is for your fears but Wales wins with 7.5%...Though no idea really what it entails [/quote]

I meant in Thatcher's government, I don't know much about what they're doing or planning to do. Thanks for the info.I feel a little better, still, I'm not relaxed by any means.

Hold on, what's the being cut from England?

 

[shaneriding]

Read about this this morning. I wonder if the government realises we are in about one trillion pounds debt to America, and have been since WW2. No amount of scrimping will solve that in 4 years, and will only make peoples lives worse in the meantime. Labour, come back! All is forgiven!

Wrong. Britain has paid all its money back to the US. we made our final payment not too long back.

On topic though the worst thing is that international aid is going to be increased. we give money to countries like India for money to buy new planes adn nuclear weapons yet we cant afford our own. No offence to India but if you can afford that then you don't need anything from us. Charity starts at home!

 

[gallaetha_matt]

'Feed the rich and gut the poor'

Fixed that for you.

Ha. Did it used to say feed the poor and gut the rich? Sorry, like I said above. I got so mad that I'm not proof reading my posts properly. I've got so much to say that it's like all my words are trying to come out at the same time. It's like giving birth to triplets who all want out at once.

Yeah it did and I know how you feel. I'm dreading all this more because they didn't treat Scotland very well the last time they were in power.

Also, that is a terrible mental image.

Then my job is done. Now I'm off to use my writing powers to ruin another person's lunch. Writerman awaaaay!

I hope Scotland gets it's independence somehow. Will you sponsor me for citizenship if it does? I like the accent, enjoyed Trainspotting , I enjoy haggis and I hate the English too.

I'm English though, will that be a problem?

I think what a lot of you are overlooking is that they want to fire half a million people. I'm sorry, I know a lot of people see public servants as useless and ubiquitous, but that's half a fucking million people being fired just to save money. If those figures were applied to any other industry, the riots would clog the streets. My parents and both of their partners are all public servants (albeit, high ranking ones from Australia), and the idea of someone else's parent losing their job just so the government can tighten their pockets is shocking. I think cutting back the public service should be an absolute last resort, especially with unemployment rates so high already.

I agree. This hasn't been mentioned much on this thread. Thousands of hard working public servants are looking at unemployment thanks to these cuts - they should be very pissed off, so should we.

I'm pretty annoyed too. I was looking at jobs in the public sector, myself.

 

[Ilikemilkshake]

If it were to happen I'd be more than happy to wield a pitchfork and a torch against the armed wall of bureaucracy.

A bullet for freedom anyday.

sounds like you and some other people here might be interested in this, its not quite a revolution, but its a start.
http://www.counterfire.org/index.php/blogs/66-luna17-activist/6155-10-november-nusucu-national-demonstration-to-oppose-education-cuts

I thought they weren't cutting education along with NHS? I'll support though, due to retarded "Universities set their own fees" laws.

i believe they're actually increasing primary education by a small percentage, but they're cutting higher education, and also raising tuition fee's (something the lib dems said they wouldnt do)

aswell as being against this the demo is generally an anti cuts demo against losses of jobs etc.

 

[7moreDead_v1legacy]

I hope Scotland gets it's independence somehow.

If Scots get it I want it for Wales too \o/

 

[Kinguendo]

I hope Scotland gets it's independence somehow.

If Scots get it I want it for Wales too \o/

Well if you guys are getting it then I want it for England and Northern Ireland (Because thats where both sides of my family is from).

 

[Danzaivar]

Sure as shit beats Labours "Lets stick our heads in the sand and pretend everything is fine" approach. Thankfully we got the morons out before they wrecked the country this time (I'm looking at you Callaghan).

Oh and to the "There are no jobs out there for young people" comment. You are wrong. That is all.

 

[lewism247]

'Feed the rich and gut the poor'

Fixed that for you.

Ha. Did it used to say feed the poor and gut the rich? Sorry, like I said above. I got so mad that I'm not proof reading my posts properly. I've got so much to say that it's like all my words are trying to come out at the same time. It's like giving birth to triplets who all want out at once.

Yeah it did and I know how you feel. I'm dreading all this more because they didn't treat Scotland very well the last time they were in power.

Also, that is a terrible mental image.

Then my job is done. Now I'm off to use my writing powers to ruin another person's lunch. Writerman awaaaay!

I hope Scotland gets it's independence somehow. Will you sponsor me for citizenship if it does? I like the accent, enjoyed Trainspotting , I enjoy haggis and I hate the English too.

I'm English though, will that be a problem?

I think what a lot of you are overlooking is that they want to fire half a million people. I'm sorry, I know a lot of people see public servants as useless and ubiquitous, but that's half a fucking million people being fired just to save money. If those figures were applied to any other industry, the riots would clog the streets. My parents and both of their partners are all public servants (albeit, high ranking ones from Australia), and the idea of someone else's parent losing their job just so the government can tighten their pockets is shocking. I think cutting back the public service should be an absolute last resort, especially with unemployment rates so high already.

I agree. This hasn't been mentioned much on this thread. Thousands of hard working public servants are looking at unemployment thanks to these cuts - they should be very pissed off, so should we.

I'm pretty annoyed too. I was looking at jobs in the public sector, myself.

I think if Scotland gained it's independence it would be fucked. Mostly due to the fact that a certain someone thought it was a good idea to close our 3 main industries. Plus the english have stolen and are continuing to steal our oil.

It'd be great to see but I don't think it'd be beneficial.

Sure why not, just don't be a dick and you'll get a long fine, we don't lynch every English person we find ya know.

Also, I think if things go really bad we should break out these:

 

[Kinguendo]

Sure as shit beats Labours "Lets stick our heads in the sand and pretend everything is fine" approach. Thankfully we got the morons out before they wrecked the country this time (I'm looking at you Callaghan).

Oh and to the "There are no jobs out there for young people" comment. You are wrong. That is all.

Good argument, "Youre wrong and that is all you need to know.".

I want to try that out, youre wrong.

(Did it work?)

 

[lewism247]

'Feed the rich and gut the poor'

Fixed that for you.

Ha. Did it used to say feed the poor and gut the rich? Sorry, like I said above. I got so mad that I'm not proof reading my posts properly. I've got so much to say that it's like all my words are trying to come out at the same time. It's like giving birth to triplets who all want out at once.

Yeah it did and I know how you feel. I'm dreading all this more because they didn't treat Scotland very well the last time they were in power.

Also, that is a terrible mental image.

Then my job is done. Now I'm off to use my writing powers to ruin another person's lunch. Writerman awaaaay!

I hope Scotland gets it's independence somehow. Will you sponsor me for citizenship if it does? I like the accent, enjoyed Trainspotting , I enjoy haggis and I hate the English too.

I'm English though, will that be a problem?

I think what a lot of you are overlooking is that they want to fire half a million people. I'm sorry, I know a lot of people see public servants as useless and ubiquitous, but that's half a fucking million people being fired just to save money. If those figures were applied to any other industry, the riots would clog the streets. My parents and both of their partners are all public servants (albeit, high ranking ones from Australia), and the idea of someone else's parent losing their job just so the government can tighten their pockets is shocking. I think cutting back the public service should be an absolute last resort, especially with unemployment rates so high already.

I agree. This hasn't been mentioned much on this thread. Thousands of hard working public servants are looking at unemployment thanks to these cuts - they should be very pissed off, so should we.

I'm pretty annoyed too. I was looking at jobs in the public sector, myself.

I was looking forward to my bagel.....

and I'm sure you'll be fine, just don't be a dick, we don't lynch every Englishman we find ya know.

Also should I get one of these in case things go a lot worse?

 

[Kinguendo]

Also, I think if things go really bad we should break out these:

A tad clichéd, no? Also, the fact that he wasnt a revolutionary, he was a traitor to England doing it for his own benefit doesnt exactly send the right message with the whole "Being annoyed at the greedy fucks." side of this.

And here is the mask I have:

Spoiler: Its awesome!

EDIT: Just a heads up, you double posted.

 

[Duol]

So you're basically saying that the wealthy caused the recession. But we should just clam up and pay for their mistakes ourselves because they're wealthy, and'll only jump ship when we try to call them on it?

I agree that we need to be more responsible with our national debts. But is gouging the public really going to help at all? Especially since Cameron and all his toff buddies are rich and powerful. They're only going to get richer and more powerful from all these cuts.

It'd be like a big company saying "We lost a lot of money this year because our CEO made some pretty bad decisions, so we're going to be sending around a hat for you to help pay his car payments out of your own pocket. We're sacking half of you, but not before we get your donation in the hat. Those of you that are left are getting their wages cut. Also we get to keep the hat when you're done. Because this is a business! And it's a nice hat! That's why!"

I can't work out if you're defending the current government, or if you're saying "The world is shit, shut up and get on with it." Either way, you're very wrong.

EDT: I'm so mad that I'm not proof reading my posts anymore. You can all tell, can't you?

It's easy to reverse your' analogy to the current situation. All members in the company decide they are going to work 3 hours less each day because, well they cant be fucked and if they stay the extra 3 hours they get caught in traffic. As a result the CEO is going to pay for them. I mean why not he has the cash easily. Heck why not mortgage the company building so we can all go on holiday an extra week each year. When we declare bankruptsy it doesn't really matter because we can go sponge of the governmennt, where the CEO has also been paying the largest contribution.

Benefits are there for people who need them in the short run or are so disabled they have no chance of working at all. I don't really think anyone else needs them. It's this attitude where people believe that the government is responsible for taking care of them that makes me mad. The one thing I noticed is that although the gov. is cutting benefits, wellfare, departmental spending and raising VAT they are maintaing many infrastructural projects. For me that's what government is about. Not for everyone one who cant be assed to make a reall effort to get a job to lean on them.

You are worth what you are worth. If you squandered your chances at education, sat on the doll, striked on petty issues with your union then you are worth very little to society. You do not add any value. Why should wealthy people who often worked hard and fought tooth and nail for what they have pay for other people shortcomings? Why should there be more incentive to stay on benefits than to go back to work? That is part of what this government is trying to end and as far as I'm concerned this is all well and good.

I know I will get flamed for this by many people who feel they are entitled to aid from their government or who claim to be looking for a job, but what the heck.

 

[Danzaivar]

Sure as shit beats Labours "Lets stick our heads in the sand and pretend everything is fine" approach. Thankfully we got the morons out before they wrecked the country this time (I'm looking at you Callaghan).

Oh and to the "There are no jobs out there for young people" comment. You are wrong. That is all.

Good argument, "Youre wrong and that is all you need to know.".

I want to try that out, youre wrong.

(Did it work?)

Okay, let's go on a random job website and refine it to 'Junior' to get a sample of things a young person could do.

http://www.jobsite.co.uk/cgi-bin/advsearch?search_type=quick&location_within=10&fp_skill_include=junior&location_include=&daysback=7

840 matches. From one site, narrowing the terms.

There is a big difference between "There are no jobs" and "There are no jobs that I want to do".

 

[The Cheezy One]

I also love the way that the tories constantly blame Labour for the global economic situation.
Global economic situation
wow. Thats actually impressive. if it wasn't for the fact that the whole thing is a load of immature "It's his fault!" finger pointing

 

[Akihiko]

I watched the spending cuts yesterday live. The conservatives seemed so full of themselves.

Was annoyed overall, not that I didn't expect it to happen. I 100% agree they're cutting the wrong things. Also they never mentioned the other thing which I was interested to hear about; Raising University Tuition Fees cap to £12,000.

I was also one of the people who warned not to vote for the Conservatives. But naturally they were still hell bent on blaming Brown for the worldwide recession.

I just hope this coalition ends soon so we can have enough election. Maybe people will have regained their senses this time.