The Rise of the "Man-*****"

[EllieRyan]

@Father-Time,

If you HONESTLY and TRULY believe that words cannot do any harm, least of all to the LGBT community,

It's hilarious that you say that because it relies on the incorrect stereotype that transvestites aren't heterosexual (or not transgendered).

Wait...what? What the hell are you babbling about? There's nothing about mentioning the LGBT community that implies that transvestites aren't under the transgender category (and they are, that's what the T stands for), and it says nothing about their sexual orientation.

 

[TonyVonTonyus]

Theres a difference between being feminine and taking care of yourself...exbihit A over there is the prior. There are a lot of just womanly men in the world today. Maybe I still have the idea of "men should all wear suits and fancy hats and carry around briefcases" but to me it seems there are only three types of dressing men today. Those who dress like women, those who dress very conformist like because they think its cool and those who dress like its 1984.

 

[Mythrignoc]

@Father-Time,

If you HONESTLY and TRULY believe that words cannot do any harm, least of all to the LGBT community,

It's hilarious that you say that because it relies on the incorrect stereotype that transvestites aren't heterosexual (or not transgendered).

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Wow.


LGBT stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender.

Transvestites, AKA crossdressers, are NOT included in that acronym. Please look things up before you tout nonsense

Hey if you miss the point a few more times you'll get a free sub.

We were talking about transvestites and you brought up the LGBT community as if they were some subset of the LGBT community. They aren't. Not by a long shot. To say they are is basically adding fuel to stereotypes.

No I didn't. I never said or implied the LGBT community had anything to do with this one effeminate guy.

If you read the context of my statement, you'll actually see that I brought up the LGBT community and all those politician names in response to your comment about how words cannot harm people.

I brought that up in hopes of educating you that yes in fact people CAN harm others with mere words alone, and if Maggie Gallagher can do this to the LGBT community, maybe you shouldn't be doing this to other groups of people like crossdressers and metrosexuals.

 

[EllieRyan]

@Father-Time,

If you HONESTLY and TRULY believe that words cannot do any harm, least of all to the LGBT community,

It's hilarious that you say that because it relies on the incorrect stereotype that transvestites aren't heterosexual (or not transgendered).

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Wow.


LGBT stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender.

Transvestites, AKA crossdressers, are NOT included in that acronym. Please look things up before you tout nonsense

Try paying attention before you start missing the point.

We were talking about transvestites and you brought up the LGBT community as if they were some subset of the LGBT community. They aren't. Not by a long shot. To say they are is basically adding fuel to stereotypes.

Actually, transgender is an umbrella term that encompasses all forms of gender-nonconformity including transvestism and transsexualism.

 

[The_Graff]

i do not believe that all women are 'evil' or 'out to get me' most of the women i know are actually very pleasant company i simply have a problem with the logical fallacies inerent in feminism and how they are swallowed, blindly, by people like yourself. i suggest you do some reading on the subject.

I have, I really, really have. If you think that feminism is one solid block of ideas then you clearly know nothing about it. The topic had nothing to do with feminism, it's sad that you think just because I pointed out that what you said was bullshit you think you know exactly what my beliefs are.

If you think that feminism is comprised of sitting in a room, talking about how shit men are or yelling at men for holding open doors then I think you're the one who needs to start doing some serious research before you go spouting uninformed statements like that.

you know what, im going to bed now - because it is half 11, and i am bored. you bore me.

oh and btw i have done the reading, you sound like you have only encounterd feminist critiques of feminism. i suggest you look outside the movement for an objective view. goodnight.

 

[mp123]

I like a manly man. If you are more feminine than me, I simply don't find you attractive. I don't think we should round up the girly men and persecute them, but I don't particularly want one either. Men should have the right to wear whatever they please, but they need to be aware that it will affect how others view them.

 

[WhyBotherToTry]

Just let them on. You might say this guy looks like an idiot, but would you say the same thing to a girl wearing boyish clothes?

 

[EllieRyan]

you know what, im going to bed now - because it is half 11, and i am bored. you bore me.

oh and btw i have done the reading, you sound like you have only encounterd feminist critiques of feminism. i suggest you look outside the movement for an objective view. goodnight.

Apparently the suggestion that gender inequality is a bad thing isn't an objective viewpoint. Who knew?

 

[Hagi]

you know what, im going to bed now - because it is half 11, and i am bored. you bore me.

oh and btw i have done the reading, you sound like you have only encounterd feminist critiques of feminism. i suggest you look outside the movement for an objective view. goodnight.

Apparently the suggestion that gender inequality is a bad thing isn't an objective viewpoint. Who knew?

I wouldn't take him too seriously, other points aside I find the claim that he has "done the reading" while still being incapable of proper capitalisation, spelling and punctuation questionable at best.

Not to mention accusations of the like "i am bored. you bore me". Very eloquent, inspiring and convincing.

I must say, this is a rather good thread. Some impressive newish members and some rather silly people making even sillier claims. All the ingredients for simple yet compelling, and at times even amusing, reading.

 

[JaceArveduin]

SNIP

My guess is that he's jealous because they make tons more cash than he does for being feminine.

On a more serious note, tell him that as long as they aren't bothering him, get over it.

 

[Torrasque]

It's funny (well... Not really) that when a woman gets in touch with her "masculine side" no one gives a shit, but when it's a man doing that with his "feminine side" it's an aberration. Why? Because the image on "Manliness", Rawr rawr, beer, meat and testosterone is the best.

Screw that! Everyone who thinks that picture is horrible should get over themselves. People do whatever the hell they want, however they want.

lol, I agree whole heartedly. Haters gonna hate!
Guys can dress any way they want so long as it doesn't look completely silly and stupid. Like pants that ride around your knees. That is just ridiculous.

I don't really see what the problem with that guy in the OP's picture, he probably gets laid more than red necks in touch with their "inner man", and feels better about himself too.

 

[Private Custard]

Let me offer exhibit B. The subject is Shane Warne, a previously masculine man, driven to plastic surgery, makeup and awful fashion, just for a bit of pussy.

Spoiler

Everyone's free do do what the hell they like. But the above example is hilarious. Shane Warne was a **** before......now he's just embarrasing himself!!

 

[Hagi]

Let me offer exhibit B. The subject is Shane Warne, a previously masculine man, driven to plastic surgery, makeup and awful fashion, just for a bit of pussy.

Spoiler

Everyone's free do do what the hell they like. But the above example is hilarious. Shane Warne was a **** before......now he's just embarrasing himself!!

Hey, at least the guy behind him is checking out his ass. And getting a big smile from it too.

Guy must be doing something right, I'm sure homosexual men and heterosexual women are both able to appreciate a fine piece of ass.

 

[EllieRyan]

Let me offer exhibit B. The subject is Shane Warne, a previously masculine man, driven to plastic surgery, makeup and awful fashion, just for a bit of pussy.

Spoiler

Everyone's free do do what the hell they like. But the above example is hilarious. Shane Warne was a **** before......now he's just embarrasing himself!!

First of all, I've heard of people doing worse for the chance of sex. It's one of the primary motivators of our species after all. Secondly, I don't get it. He doesn't look the least bit feminine to me, even after learning that he's had plastic surgery and makeup. He doesn't look any stupider than half the people I see on the street.

 

[MarsProbe]

Weren't the fashion rags calling that look "metrosexual" a few years ago? Uh, oh, looks like the backlash train is pulling into the station. Toot Toot!

Seriously, though, wear whatever the hell you like. It's none of my business anyway.

If anyone here in the UK knows of the free paper that you can pick up on public transport, the paper once used the term "metrosexual" as a label for all the young cool people they imagined were reading their trashy free newspaper. Of course, now they use the equally loathsome term "Urbanites" because metrosexual means something else.

Though if I was to ask the question "What in the sweet chocolate Christ is a metrosexual", would someone know where I got that from?

 

[Sordak]

to be honest i dispise metrosexuality, men should be men, women should be women everyone who says otherwise is clearly wrong. Men and Women might be equal but they are NOT the same.
That is very ofthen misinterpreted to the point that making a difference between genders is looked upon alltogehter wich is a rather disturbing trend.
People should rather think about why it is great that there is a difference and not try to homogenize everything.

Also girly men look pretty gay...

 

[Private Custard]

Hey, at least the guy behind him is checking out his ass. And getting a big smile from it too.

Thanks for the laugh!!!

First of all, I've heard of people doing worse for the chance of sex. It's one of the primary motivators of our species after all. Secondly, I don't get it. He doesn't look the least bit feminine to me, even after learning that he's had plastic surgery and makeup. He doesn't look any stupider than half the people I see on the street.

Did you see him before? He was the most masculine, beer-swilling Aussie cricket bloke you could imagine. Now he looks like this.....

He looks ridiculous! He's free to look how he wants, but on the flip-side, anyone else is free to have a joke at his expense.

Although he is bedding Liz Hurley, so I'm not sure if the joke's on him, or us!

 

[Hagi]

to be honest i dispise metrosexuality, men should be men, women should be women everyone who says otherwise is clearly wrong. Men and Women might be equal but they are NOT the same.
That is very ofthen misinterpreted to the point that making a difference between genders is looked upon alltogehter wich is a rather disturbing trend.
People should rather think about why it is great that there is a difference and not try to homogenize everything.

Also girly men look pretty gay...

I'm certain nobody is suggesting all men suddenly start wearing tampons, that'd be rather painful and awkward.

But what exactly is the harm in men dressing like that? Or the harm in looking 'gay'?

I mean all the girls who are into tough, bearded, strong, rough and manly men like yourself will have a much easier choice falling at your feet and not confusing their emotional and fragile feminine brains by having to pick between real men like yourself and those only dressing like real men. More pussy for you, to put it bluntly (as manly men like yourself would likely rather have it).

 

[2733]

I feel people should dress and act as they please, but know this, people will judge you. If you where to wear a police uniform I would treat you as a police officer, if you dress like a 13 year old girl don't get mad when I assume you will act like one. If you don't wish to be treated this way, give your little sister back her jeans and get a pair that fits.

 

[EllieRyan]

to be honest i dispise metrosexuality, men should be men, women should be women everyone who says otherwise is clearly wrong. Men and Women might be equal but they are NOT the same.

The only universal differences between men and women have to do with their anatomy and physiology. Everything else, including manner of dress and expression, are constructs that are defined by society, and are therefore subject to change. Trying to insinuate that your way is the ONLY way is incredibly stupid.

Also girly men look pretty gay...

The fact that you associate all gay men with femininity simply demonstrates your ignorance. If you knew anything at all about the LGBT community, you'd know that there are gay men out there who are more traditionally masculine than you'll ever be.