The Spoony One has been ejected from That Guy With the Glasses.

[mizi]

Why am I sitting here for an hour reading all this wild speculation? I don't know, I can't look away...
I'm a fan of many of the reviewers on Channel Awesome. Lupa, JesuOtaku & Spoony are among my favorites. I don't really know what to think. From Allison's tweets above it looked like the fans weren't letting the rape joke thing die on twitter. We can't really know everything that happened. Who knows what Spoony, Lupa or anyone else said to each other out of the public eye. We'll never know the whole story.

Gah, why are my favorite reviewers all fighting? It's like high school all over again.

 

[BreakfastMan]

3). People forgetting the even more darker jokes and commentary other commentators have done that was way more offensive, example, JO's homosexual thing that happened a while back.

Anyone got any details and links for this? Because I have no idea what he is talking about, and I am rather curious to find out.

 

[findelhe]

From his twitter account he said he was moving name servers which denotes that CA was hosting the site

 

[Rutskarn]

As expected of the escapist.

A guy that stalks a woman for a year is a-ok.

I think the reason people are disregarding the whole "stalking" thing is that nobody ever presents any evidence that it's the case. It's dropped in a few of Lupa's posts, but unsubstantiated.

What besides Lupa's accusation implicates Spoony in a year of stalking?

That he went back to November of last year to quote a tweet of hers. The point where he brings up Lupas joke about beating one of her cats? Yeah that's the whole stalker bit.

Well, that was actually to turn Lupa's alleged tactic against her, but I was referring to his supposed stalking of his ex.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

As expected of the escapist.

A guy that stalks a woman for a year is a-ok.

I think the reason people are disregarding the whole "stalking" thing is that nobody ever presents any evidence that it's the case. It's dropped in a few of Lupa's posts, but unsubstantiated.

What besides Lupa's accusation implicates Spoony in a year of stalking?

That he went back to November of last year to quote a tweet of hers. The point where he brings up Lupas joke about beating one of her cats? Yeah that's the whole stalker bit.

Dude stalking in real life and looking through someones unprotected public tweets are two radically different things. Also it was his response to her digging up his joke from over a month ago.

It's not like he's Chris Benoit. He didn't hurt anybody. Maybe been a little creepy, but being creepy isn't a crime.

Try and tell that to Lupa and her white knights. They are the ones that called it stalking & tried to get his twitter banned. Nothing really implicates him as a stalker. And i would hardly call it creepy as he was only doing it in response to Lupa starting this crap by digging up one of his old tweets.

As i said, try and sell that hes not a stalker to Lupa & her fans.

I'd try but I don't speak moron. #YYYEEEAAAUUUUHHHH

It wasn't creepy that time because he was doing it out of a place of revenge, that said... Searching through someones public facebook/twitter accounts IS creepy to a certain extent cause you're actively looking for information on the person. But like I said, theres no harm in being creepy. Just don't hurt people.

Lupa also said the beating her cat joke wasn't the same as joking about rape. She must be one of the people that supports hate crimes. Ya know? The idea that killing just a man in cold blood is some how less wrong then killing a man because he's a different race than you. 'Course it's not, the reason you murder someone doesn't matter, murder is bad in it's own right.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

I don't hate them, I.... whats the marketing term big business likes to use? Oh yes "I dislike the direction they have decided to take their brand."

Yeah I'm assuming, what of it? It's not like I've been told otherwise by their official source. I ASSUMED Spoony was hurting their "brand", their "image" and decided they wanted ad dollars* instead of him. Seriously go back a couple pages and check out Amazing Atheist vid, it was a total eye opener to me. I always liked that website because it seemed so cool and indie to me, bunch of creative people making videos to entertain people and make a little money... yet there they were telling Amazing Atheist his style was a bit to "dark" for their ad dollars.

And this isn't about selling out. I don't hate Coke or McDonalds because clearly those are corporate juggernauts that will proudly tell you their corporate juggernauts and all they care about is money. I do hate Disney though, because they are all about money but outright lie to the children's faces that it's all about "magic and love and friendship."

There is no other logical reason I can assume they would cut ties with Spoony. It's either money or those in charge thought he was an asshole and desired to get rid of him. Either way, I'm still a fan of Spoony. I'm also a fan of Lindsay Ellis and Linkara. The people, the video producers. I'll follow those people, hopefully in a way that doesn't resort in filling the pockets of those running the site.

Also what's the problem if I decide I no longer (facebook) like their brand anymore based on my own assumptions? Even if they do come out with a statement and I'm wrong all I will have to do is eat a bit of humble pie which I'd be more then happy to do. Believe it or not I'd rather not like to think one of the websites I've been enjoying the past couple years was nothing more then some corporate hacks. (yes I'm aware how hipster that sounds)

(*Ad dollars. Ironic isn't? Now it's no longer about providing content for the masses, the masses opinion don't matter anymore. It's the people who want to advertise to those masses. Eck.)

spoony was given a choice about leaving, while I imagine that choice may have been along the lines of "calm down" or "stop ripping on your fans and fellow producers" or leave the site he wasnt' exactly booted, but I see how that might be a semantic argument, more importantly

it's less the assumptions and more throwing out accusations about them that aren't even hinted at, like the people who assumed the entirety of the incident was one tweet and spread it around like that, or just a few posts ago were some people are trying to say spoony's brother locked up his laptops. when you have an assumption and you openly state it like that it's gossip and the amount of gossip, misinformation, and in many cases downright slander that's around this incident is starting to bug me more then anything else.

Only two people can really stop the assumptions: Spoony and CA. Spoony's gone dark as of a while ago, and CA hasn't updated their own page with new information.

What we all know is fact is there though for anyone to read in this thread... granted it's amongst a whole lot of conjecture, but I can sympathize with your annoyance. I'd rather know the full truth myself, but we aren't being blessed with that information.

 

[Karadalis]

I imagine it was mentioned in private, and the cause for some of the animosity after all there are some differences between it done in his reviews (were it's suppose to be a character and is usually done to show spoony, the character, as being something of a looser) and doing it on twitter were it's as him and the rape is the joke itself.

The problem i see here is that Lupa.. the healthy minded of them both, dug up this one month old tweet and slapped it into spoonys face. Just to tell him that she wouldnt follow his tweets anymore? Fully well knowing that spoony was just a bit more then mentaly unstable?

It doesnt matter how vitriolic spoony was, Lupa is the one without depressions or any mental illnesses.

So instead of acting like an adult she sought full on conflict with spoony over an issue that she originaly had nothing to do with to begin with.

You see the issue would be a different one if lupa was "forced" to listen to every single rant spoony made.. but she wasnt.. no one was.. this is the internet, everyone could have ignored spoony but people on the internet like to be butthurt so they didnt leave him alone.

Not only that but she kept pestering and poking spoony after he was suspended.

Now tell me... whos at fault here? The one with the mental disease (and depressions are a mental disease) or the one who has no mental issues and could just simply unsubscribe WITHOUT making a big fuss about this? You know.. like a professional?

Lupa wanted the confrontation and also gloated about spoonys suspension... in my eyes thats not being innocent.

I dont know if this wouldnt have happend sooner or later (spoony leaving CA) but lupa speed it up from all ive seen presented here. (tweets n all) And not in a good way.

Also everyone who keeps blaming spoony: What did he do? Write some mean things on the internet? Boohoo.. how dare he.

While i can understand CAs decision from a business standpoint i do not understand how people (aka "the fans") can say that spoony is to blame for everything in this situation.

Captcha: Evil genius.... nice

 

[venatus]

Only two people can really stop the assumptions: Spoony and CA. Spoony's gone dark as of a while ago, and CA hasn't updated their own page with new information.

What we all know is fact is there though for anyone to read in this thread... granted it's amongst a whole lot of conjecture, but I can sympathize with your annoyance. I'd rather know the full truth myself, but we aren't being blessed with that information.

then at least be clear when it's conjecture. and has for spoony going dark, he posted on his twitter like 3 minuets ago. and 15 minuetes before that, seems like he was busy trying to get his website and forums over to the new servers.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

Only two people can really stop the assumptions: Spoony and CA. Spoony's gone dark as of a while ago, and CA hasn't updated their own page with new information.

What we all know is fact is there though for anyone to read in this thread... granted it's amongst a whole lot of conjecture, but I can sympathize with your annoyance. I'd rather know the full truth myself, but we aren't being blessed with that information.

then at least be clear when it's conjecture. and has for spoony going dark, he posted on his twitter like 3 minuets ago. and 15 minuetes before that, seems like he was busy trying to get his website and forums over to the new servers.

Granted i've been with this thread since the first page, but I assumed (huh? theres that word again. lol) that all the bullshit is fairly obvious and it's all coming from the facts others have dug up.

 

[venatus]

Only two people can really stop the assumptions: Spoony and CA. Spoony's gone dark as of a while ago, and CA hasn't updated their own page with new information.

What we all know is fact is there though for anyone to read in this thread... granted it's amongst a whole lot of conjecture, but I can sympathize with your annoyance. I'd rather know the full truth myself, but we aren't being blessed with that information.

then at least be clear when it's conjecture. and has for spoony going dark, he posted on his twitter like 3 minuets ago. and 15 minuetes before that, seems like he was busy trying to get his website and forums over to the new servers.

Granted i've been with this thread since the first page, but I assumed (huh? theres that word again. lol) that all the bullshit is fairly obvious and it's all coming from the facts others have dug up.

while I haven't read the whole thread, no very little of what I've seen is from any real source (real sources being spoony or anybody at channel awesome)despite being passed around as fact. the whole thing has been fed to the rumor and gossip mills and ground up so finely it's ridiculous.

 

[shadyh8er]

Spoonys twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/TheSpoonyOne you have to go back a little bit to get to the meaty bits of the rage

Good lord! He sounds like Charlie Sheen (not a good thing)!

OT: Really Spoony? Rape jokes? Not even Sage goes there.

 

[axlryder]

As expected of the escapist.

A guy that stalks a woman for a year is a-ok.
The woman is blamed for causing him pain when she flirts with people not him 1 year after the break-up. After all, women need to be 100% chaste after they break up with a guy, even one year later.
And other women who don't like rape jokes and dislike stalking ...are also evil, and just want attention/white knighting. But a guy stalking someone is totally fine!

Typical, really. Again, the escapist shows how deep it's stuck in the slimy echo-chamber of dudebro "culture".



LordKat can screw off, though. That was a jackassy thing to say. Thing is: The guy hates Spoony, he'd have used anything to attack him, mostly because Spoony was an idiot at a E3 and ruined LordKat's interview chance. That, dear LordKat, doesn't make oky what you said.

Hope he loses his show, just like Spoony should lose his

Don't generalize, please.

Most of the people I've been discussing with only have bones to pick with LordKat and Lupa.

Personally, I think Scarlett should have just stayed out of this to begin with. She really has no direct involvement.

Seriously, let's all just take things out of context and make blanket statements. Oh, but I guess we're the "dudebro" scumbags for thinking that dredging up dirt on someone that had already been dealt with by the parties directly involved would be considered low. Ya hear that escapists!? You're all a bunch of implied misogynists for a few of us speculating that Lupa wasn't perfectly just in her actions. Get real.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

Only two people can really stop the assumptions: Spoony and CA. Spoony's gone dark as of a while ago, and CA hasn't updated their own page with new information.

What we all know is fact is there though for anyone to read in this thread... granted it's amongst a whole lot of conjecture, but I can sympathize with your annoyance. I'd rather know the full truth myself, but we aren't being blessed with that information.

then at least be clear when it's conjecture. and has for spoony going dark, he posted on his twitter like 3 minuets ago. and 15 minuetes before that, seems like he was busy trying to get his website and forums over to the new servers.

Granted i've been with this thread since the first page, but I assumed (huh? theres that word again. lol) that all the bullshit is fairly obvious and it's all coming from the facts others have dug up.

while I haven't read the whole thread, no very little of what I've seen is from any real source (real sources being spoony or anybody at channel awesome)despite being passed around as fact. the whole thing has been fed to the rumor and gossip mills and ground up so finely it's ridiculous.

Well the Lupa/Spoony thing did happen.
Spoony got suspended.
Spoony got fired for something.
Spoony raged on twitter.
Lord Kat bullshited about Spoony's questionable conduct at an E3 that resulted in some publishers not wanting to talk to CA
Lupa's dealing with fan rages, certain CA reviewers put forth their two cents. some stayed silent.

I mean thats the time line, that shit did happen.

 

[venatus]

Well the Lupa/Spoony thing did happen.
Spoony got suspended.
Spoony got fired for something.
Spoony raged on twitter.
Lord Kat bullshited about Spoony's questionable conduct at an E3 that resulted in some publishers not wanting to talk to CA
Lupa's dealing with fan rages, certain CA reviewers put forth their two cents. some stayed silent.

I mean thats the time line, that shit did happen.

spoony raged before he left the site, he raged more afterwards but his twitter that night was just a rapidly devolving situation

 

[Pedro The Hutt]

Spoony always entertains me, I wouldn't know about anything regarding TGWTG if it wasn't for Spoony. I'm a fan nonetheless, and this rant here is a little much. Seriously Lord Kat can go fuck himself, if I ever ran into this fat fuck in person I would drop him flat on his back. Advocating a depressed individual commit suicide goes far beyond the line. No matter what Spoony said or did in the first place is nowhere near this 90 min hateful tirade! So I hope regardless of our future feelings about Spoony we can all agree to boycott Lord Kat for being a miserable hateful fat fuck!

I'll admit to not liking lord kat for a long time now so take this with a grain of salt, but his MO seems to be viciously lash into any popular figure he feels he can get away with, then give half hearted apology if it backfired more then he predicted.

Pretty much, heck, he once had like, an angry rage filled tirade against his very sister on Twitter, only to then remove it half an hour later, unfortunately for him, screenshots persist. He's also bitched about his mother because she was still grieving over his father's death... about a month after he passed away.

In short, he is not a very nice person.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

while I haven't read the whole thread, no very little of what I've seen is from any real source (real sources being spoony or anybody at channel awesome)despite being passed around as fact. the whole thing has been fed to the rumor and gossip mills and ground up so finely it's ridiculous.

Sorry, I generally make a rule not to write forum posts in MLA format.

All kidding aside, I think there is a lot that has gone on that we can determine many things from, like tweets and statements from people who are from the TGWTG community. None of us have ever said we knew what was going on behind the public's view.

Here's a good post that sums up everything that has been put forth publically:

/vg/ has been monitoring the shitstorm for quite a while and there's been a few attempts at making some kind of summary of what's actually happened. This is pretty much as coherent as it gets atm:
<url=http://i.imgur.com/r60gc.png>Anonymous 06/23/12(Sat)14:51:
>Spoony makes a bad joke about JesuOtaku, she's not amused but doesn't take it hard, Spoony realizes it was stupid and apologizes, JO accepts and nothing was lost.
>A month later, Lupa brings it up again, telling Spoony how she feels offended by it and he's scum, Spoony is perplexed but apologies to her as well anyways.
>Lupa isn't satisfied, she writes a huge blog post where she shits all over Spoony and spreads it around the web, plus she brings this up to Holly.
>Holly is the highest authority in TGWTG right now as Doug is on his honeymoon, and his brother is on a vacation, plus Holly is supposedly a rape victim so Spoony found himself suspended for 4 weeks, telling him he's forbid to insult fans and his cooworkers during this time.
>At this point Spoony takes it and barely contains his rage, he's yet to explode until he notices Lupa's blog spreading around the web.
>He proceed to switch on full irony as he wonders what do they want from him, should he cry blood, should he burn in hell forever, etc etc
>Lupa continues to poke at him while taking a neutral side on LordKat's live stream even complimenting Spoony's professionalism during cameos, Spoony starts to get drunk.
>A drunken Spoony lashes on everybody on twitter, at this point Lupa is starting to get some backlash as well so she fades out as Spoony destroy himself.
>Because of this he gets fired from TGWTG.

Some say is conspiracy, some say it's coincidence, it doesn't matter at this point, Spoony is officially off TGWTG and he's migrating his hompage to another server.From what I've seen, Anon seems to be pretty spot on.
There's been stray Twitter screencaps floating around but no-one seems bored enough to compile them yet.

Also, LordKat is supposedly in risk of being shut down because of his comments about wanting Noah to kill himself.

Joe has proven himself to be a pretty cool guy by shooting down assumptions of him never working with Noah again, saying that Noah is his friend and he thinks this "shit got ridiculous".

 

[axlryder]

Maybe the drop in cash flow will encourage Spoony to stop moping around and get off (or on) his ass and make some videos in a timely fashion.

If Brad Jones can come out with a snob episode every week and still have time for midnight showings, 80's Dan, writing/staring/directing movies, Ninja The mission Force, and is preparing for an animated series than I think Spoony can come out with 2 episodes a month.

Dude, depression (ACTUAL depression) isn't something you just shrug off and get on with your work after. Have you been paying attention to ANY of the crap that Spoony has been through over the past year and a half? The guy needs some time to recover, not push himself into a wall to satisfy his demanding fans.

I know, I suffer from depression and am on several medications and taking therapy. My two aunts and my uncle all have cancer and guess what? They go to work on time. Just because you have problems doesn't mean you should ditch your responsibilities. His fans pay his bills, I think he can contribute in a timely fashion.

Isn't a fan then asking to much? Just go off and watch some other shit and when he posts something, he posts something. He doesn't really owe us anything and vice versa, if you like the cut of his jib great! if you don't just move along down the salad bar.

Like I eluded to above, he owes his lifestyle to his fans and contributing a little more consistently really isn't asking for much. I highly doubt I'm the only one who feels this way and I do watch a large variety of videos when I'm not doing something else but still. He even stated in the past on numerous occasions that he's slacking off and that he'll be stepping back up but he never does. He can treat his fans like shit but he could at least be true to his word.

I find the reality is that pain, suffering, the ability to motivate oneself and various other human factors are all entirely subjective. What may be mentally feasible for one person sometimes simply isn't for another. Maybe he's going through a deep nihilistic funk and doesn't even see a reason to keep going on. It's something we can't know. We can certainly judge his actions and speculate, but that's about as far as we can get. I also suffer from depression (among other things) but I can say for certainty that while I hold a full time job now, three years ago I was struggling to even get out of bed to eat and piss, despite suffering from the same conditions then as I do now. Just my two cents.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

snip

Hey, didn't AskThatGuy rape Mati at some point, too?