The Spoony One has been ejected from That Guy With the Glasses.

[venatus]

I did. And I bet they're right. Lupa never complained. To the executives at Channel Awesome. She probably never asked the people at Channel Awesome to fire or do anything about Noah.

Instead, she wrote an multiparagraphed essay on why Spoony is a horrible person for saying a rape joke to one of his coworkers. A month after he already apologized.

See? No direct complaining for Noah's termination.

there's been drama between contributors that never prompted executive action, and yes PR statements leave a lot of wiggle room, but frankly the level of manipulation your talking about is ridiculous, if they said not responsible then maybe, but saying she was in now way involved no, that moves it from careful PR to blatant lying, which I have no reason to believe they stooped that low.

Heh, this is Public Relations damage control. This isn't stooping low at all.

Also, never has any contributor drama ended in such an explosion. I think Noah's averaged a 50 tweets per day record by now. It's really quite sad.

exactly no drama as resulted in an explosion like this, yet according to you, lupa making some posts on a blog caused immediate action from CA. not lupa made a post, spoony continued to make the scene public in his charlie sheen style rants resulting in him leaving for that scene, that would have validity, your claiming CA responded directly to something lupa said which alone got him suspended, then more comments from lupa got him fired. your version places 100% of the blame on lupa and absolves spoony, and has some one who watched spoony's tweets as they happened he is not blameless, perhaps not 100% to blame but depression or not he didn't handle the thing at all maturely or professionally. (and I say this as some one with depression on medication for it, as are many of my friends.

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

I did. And I bet they're right. Lupa never complained. To the executives at Channel Awesome. She probably never asked the people at Channel Awesome to fire or do anything about Noah.

Instead, she wrote an multiparagraphed essay on why Spoony is a horrible person for saying a rape joke to one of his coworkers. A month after he already apologized.

See? No direct complaining for Noah's termination.

there's been drama between contributors that never prompted executive action, and yes PR statements leave a lot of wiggle room, but frankly the level of manipulation your talking about is ridiculous, if they said not responsible then maybe, but saying she was in now way involved no, that moves it from careful PR to blatant lying, which I have no reason to believe they stooped that low.

Heh, this is Public Relations damage control. This isn't stooping low at all.

Also, never has any contributor drama ended in such an explosion. I think Noah's averaged a 50 tweets per day record by now. It's really quite sad.

exactly no drama as resulted in an explosion like this, yet according to you, lupa making some posts on a blog caused immediate action from CA. not lupa made a post, spoony continued to make the scene public in his charlie sheen style rants resulting in him leaving for that scene, that would have validity, your claiming CA responded directly to something lupa said which alone got him suspended, then more comments from lupa got him fired. your version places 100% of the blame on lupa and absolves spoony, and has some one who watched spoony's tweets as they happened he is not blameless, perhaps not 100% to blame but depression or not he didn't handle the thing at all maturely or professionally. (and I say this as some one with depression on medication for it, as are many of my friends.

I'd put the blame at about 40% Spoony's fault, and 60% Lupa's. Yes, Spoony hung his own rope, all that. And his conduct over Twitter was not faultless. However, Lupa was not exactly trying to keep him from losing control. Hell, she wasn't even staying neutral. She was right there, fanning the flames of his anger, and whether through maliciousness or negligence, resulted in him, basically, exploding. His fault for exploding, her fault for basically adding gas to a fire she had to know existed, considering he hasn't exactly been secretive about his mental issues.

 

[venatus]

I did. And I bet they're right. Lupa never complained. To the executives at Channel Awesome. She probably never asked the people at Channel Awesome to fire or do anything about Noah.

Instead, she wrote an multiparagraphed essay on why Spoony is a horrible person for saying a rape joke to one of his coworkers. A month after he already apologized.

See? No direct complaining for Noah's termination.

there's been drama between contributors that never prompted executive action, and yes PR statements leave a lot of wiggle room, but frankly the level of manipulation your talking about is ridiculous, if they said not responsible then maybe, but saying she was in now way involved no, that moves it from careful PR to blatant lying, which I have no reason to believe they stooped that low.

If they're all about money, why wouldn't they? It's not like companies haven't lied to the public before.

Hell thats all Tobacco companies ever did.

companies are dishonest all the time, giving incredibly misleading statements, trying to hide facts, but rarely do they say stuff that doesn't give them room to spin or talk about interpretations, which I feel CA's comments don't provide the proper room.

tobacco companies are an extreme example, both in terms of their situation were their products were killing people and their actions to try and resolve it.

for the record this will be my last post, not going to spend any more time it what really is a gossip and slander mill at this point, I was just getting frustrated with the amount of conjecture thrown around as fact and needed to blow off some steam, but not that that's done I'm going to go back to gaming.

 

[Joseph Harrison]

As expected of the escapist.

A guy that stalks a woman for a year is a-ok.
The woman is blamed for causing him pain when she flirts with people not him 1 year after the break-up. After all, women need to be 100% chaste after they break up with a guy, even one year later.
And other women who don't like rape jokes and dislike stalking ...are also evil, and just want attention/white knighting. But a guy stalking someone is totally fine!

Typical, really. Again, the escapist shows how deep it's stuck in the slimy echo-chamber of dudebro "culture".



LordKat can screw off, though. That was a jackassy thing to say. Thing is: The guy hates Spoony, he'd have used anything to attack him, mostly because Spoony was an idiot at a E3 and ruined LordKat's interview chance. That, dear LordKat, doesn't make oky what you said.

Hope he loses his show, just like Spoony should lose his

I'm not completely in the loop and its entirely possible that this has already been discussed, I'm only on page 10 of what is right now a 15 page long thread BUUUUUUUUUT

I'm pretty sure that most people aren't saying what Spoony did was right, just that he is quite clearly in a bad place right now and should probably get some help. People are mad at Lupa because she's using Spoony's sad state and took a comment that wasn't directed at her, was intended as a joke, did not offend to intended audience and was also from over a month ago to get him kicked off of TGWTG because she personally dislikes him.

Personally, I think that Spoony should apologize and what he did was wrong but I also think that Lupa shouldn't have been a ***** and try to get him fired due to a personal disagreement.

Also I think that LordKat should fuck off for being such a huge douche.

 

[TheDrunkNinja]

exactly no drama as resulted in an explosion like this, yet according to you, lupa making some posts on a blog caused immediate action from CA.

Since when?

not lupa made a post, spoony continued to make the scene public in his charlie sheen style rants resulting in him leaving for that scene

When did I say that wasn't what happened?

your claiming CA responded directly to something lupa said which alone got him suspended

I said what? You mean this?

>Lupa isn't satisfied, she writes a huge blog post where she shits all over Spoony and spreads it around the web, plus she brings this up to Holly.

Personally? I wouldn't put her having a part in it past her, but I also doubt that's completely accurate as well.

I said that post I quoted was a summation of everything that has been put forth publicly. I never said it was absolute, raw fact. In this single instance, there's a contradiction. I wouldn't count out either party to be wrong in this regard.


You, however, have made so many assumptions about me without even looking at practically anything I've posted in this thread thus far. Well done.

then more comments from lupa got him fired.

No, his reaction to Lupa's comments got him fired. I never said otherwise.

Even still, that doesn't absolve Lupa of responsibility for said comments.

your version places 100% of the blame on lupa and absolves spoony

No it doesn't. Even if anything you said I said was actually what I said, it wouldn't make Noah blameless.

Nobody is blameless.

At all. Remember that.

and has some one who watched spoony's tweets as they happened he is not blameless

Anyone with eyes can see that.

perhaps not 100% to blame but depression or not he didn't handle the thing at all maturely or professionally. (and I say this as some one with depression on medication for it, as are many of my friends.

I have friends on medication who go out of their way to make sure not to be around any people on certain days because they're in "anti-people mode" as they put it. I've seen them when they have their breakdowns. It's not pretty. I don't condone Noah's behavior. I understand why he got to this place though.

There are a lot of factors. Lupa is responsible for a lot of them. To say that she isn't is to be in denial.

This'll be the last post I make tonight. I'll check back tomorrow. Goodnight.

 

[The Thinker]

What was his excuse for shit content before?

Seriously, I liked some of his videos, but most were awful from day one.

According to the video I watched in this thread, inexperience.

I'm assuming most of your Cthulu knowledge comes from the internet because in no reality does Japan come before Cthulu. Cthulu does NOT come AFTER Japan. It's Cthulu, THEN Japan.

That merely suggests a lack of knowledge about Japan.

Lupa was pissed because Spoony basically said she (Scarlett) was a ***** and his fans took her to task for "twitter flirting" as Lupa put it, which I can only interpret as "cyber-sex" over twitter.

Um... I don't think "twitter flirting" is really like that. More like real-life flirting, just... on twitter.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

I did. And I bet they're right. Lupa never complained. To the executives at Channel Awesome. She probably never asked the people at Channel Awesome to fire or do anything about Noah.

Instead, she wrote an multiparagraphed essay on why Spoony is a horrible person for saying a rape joke to one of his coworkers. A month after he already apologized.

See? No direct complaining for Noah's termination.

there's been drama between contributors that never prompted executive action, and yes PR statements leave a lot of wiggle room, but frankly the level of manipulation your talking about is ridiculous, if they said not responsible then maybe, but saying she was in now way involved no, that moves it from careful PR to blatant lying, which I have no reason to believe they stooped that low.

If they're all about money, why wouldn't they? It's not like companies haven't lied to the public before.

Hell thats all Tobacco companies ever did.

companies are dishonest all the time, giving incredibly misleading statements, trying to hide facts, but rarely do they say stuff that doesn't give them room to spin or talk about interpretations, which I feel CA's comments don't provide the proper room.

tobacco companies are an extreme example, both in terms of their situation were their products were killing people and their actions to try and resolve it.

for the record this will be my last post, not going to spend any more time it what really is a gossip and slander mill at this point, I was just getting frustrated with the amount of conjecture thrown around as fact and needed to blow off some steam, but not that that's done I'm going to go back to gaming.

In the future, don't be one of those people who boldly announce "AND NOW I AM DONE WITH CONVERSATION AFTER SAYING MY PIECE!". It's rather egotistical. If you don't want to discuss anymore, just don't post anymore.

I mean unless you want to come across that way.

FOR THE RECORD~! This will not be MY last post. Probably.

 

[Khazoth]

Well, he releases one video every blue moon, so I can't really say that I care much. I don't know or care much about the whats and whys but I do question why Linkara is still around.

 

[conholio23]

The E3 thing seems to be the impitence behind Lupa's going over Spoony's head and getting him fired. As someone else pointed out, Hope Chapman (JO) had literally nothing to say about this WHEN IT HAPPENED and she was the one who SHOULD have been offended. Lupa dug this up months later and used it against Spoony in what I can only describe as an attempt at social climbing in a YouTube reviewer collective, which is sad and wrong on so many levels. I have no idea why Nash is involved but, I would imagine, because of loyalty to Lupa since Phelous and Lord Kat seem to be in it for that reason as well.

This also stinks of "settling old scores": apparently Scarlett, the ex of Spoony (word on the nets, because she cheated on him), is friends with Lupa and Lupa was pissed because Spoony basically said she (Scarlett) was a ***** and his fans took her to task for "twitter flirting" as Lupa put it, which I can only interpret as "cyber-sex" over twitter. Lord Kat seems to have a longstanding feud with Spoony, Phelous is Lupa's henchman/boyfriend, and Nash apparently was just pissed about the original incident (even though his girlfriend apparently was not) and loyal to Lupa. So in the end, it would appear, this whole thing is some kind of convoluted scheme but some other people to oust Spoony One because of old grudges and feuds the fans were only scarcely aware of until now.

Which I'm sure leaves people like Linkara, Brad Jones and Lindsay (all of whom, as far as I know, have yet to take sides or are actively trying to smother the flames) in a shitty position. I must say I'm also kind of sorry--well, not REALLY sorry--for Doug Walker who I'm sure has no stake in this and must feel very stupid with his website, his money and his time being caught in the middle of some squabble between Spoony, Spoony's Ex and her Friend (oh and Lord Kat) which appears to be the crux of this whole thing. And now Phelous and Lupa, and possibly others (?), are talking about breaking off. Wow. Just wow.

I'll say it again: it's hilarious to me how Channel Awesome suddenly became Dallas OVERNIGHT!

To quote ZP "This shit is Bananas". If i want this kind of intrigue ill get to reading A Song of Ice and Fire. Just picked up book one...

 

[Thoric485]

Well, there goes half of the worthwhile content producers on TGWTG.

 

[Khazoth]

Just read Spoony's twitter... thing. Interesting read. Its like E3 popped a nerve somewhere deep in his brain.

Well, there goes half of the worthwhile content producers on TGWTG.

He was kinda talented but come on, really? He released one video every five or six months.

 

[Allthingsspectacular]

He was kinda talented but come on, really? He released one video every five or six months.

The thing that made Spoony's videos unique was that they never boil down to a formula.

I love the Nostalgia Critic and Linkara videos, but they are formulaic and the the different episodes are really do follow a set structure.

Spoony's videos are more about quality over quantity and on top of his talent, all of his videos tend to be completely different and endlessly rewatchable.

 

[Knight Templar]

I don't enjoy involving myself in the internet politics of people I've never had any contact with, so I haven't picked sides here.

The fact that Spoony apparently had some kind of mental issues is what makes turning this into a spectator sport a little, unsettling, for me.

 

[Khazoth]

He was kinda talented but come on, really? He released one video every five or six months.

The thing that made Spoony's videos unique was that they never boil down to a formula.

I love the Nostalgia Critic and Linkara videos, but they are formulaic and the the different episodes are really do follow a set structure.

Spoony's videos are more about quality over quantity and on top of his talent, all of his videos tend to be completely different and endlessly rewatchable.

I'll respectfully disagree, he has honestly developed an insanely predictable formula lately, the same formula most of TGWTG has ironicly. 'Skit review dressing in character costume continue review skit skit.

Each has their own tastes, like I personally can't stand Linkara's taste in comedy. But the one thing I will state as perceived fact is that he has stopped trying. His work is more and more sporadic and as of recent it comes off as if he doesn't even try.

 

[Zeriah]

As expected of the escapist.

A guy that stalks a woman for a year is a-ok.

I think the reason people are disregarding the whole "stalking" thing is that nobody ever presents any evidence that it's the case. It's dropped in a few of Lupa's posts, but unsubstantiated.

What besides Lupa's accusation implicates Spoony in a year of stalking?

That he went back to November of last year to quote a tweet of hers. The point where he brings up Lupas joke about beating one of her cats? Yeah that's the whole stalker bit.

Man that is pathetic, what's worse is Spoony has learned nothing from this. He doesn't care about his fanbase and he proved it on his twitter, then again his fanbase is filled with complete idiots. Spoony could say "I hate everyone of you assholes who watch my videos and I hope you pathetic dumbasses all burn in hell. But thanks for all the cash!" And they'd still support him. Have any of you guys been on his forum, those guys need help almost as much as Spoony.

Oh get off your high horse. Like any of you have never thought your ex was a ***** (especially when she apparently cheated on you) or glanced at their facebook/twitter sometimes. He most likely remembered reading them when they were posted and brought them back up when LUPA dredged up something (OMG STALKER) that was completely done and dusted for the sole purpose of hurting him and then continued shitting all over him on her blog. How any of you can defend Lupa's actions is just baffling to me.

I do think Spoony was a dick to his fan base after he lost it because of Lupa's horrible behavior and probably justified being fired, but what Lupa did was far more reprehensible. How petty can you be to repeatably kick someone with severe depression when they're down?

 

[Zeckt]

So all they have left are formulatic contributors now. Doug is starting to get old and repetitive for me, but spoony remained fresh. Say what you will about Spoony but he was definitely talented. I would say this is on Lupa for kicking him when he was down simply because of one outburst and just not letting it go, what a drama queen. Using his depression against him for her publicity by kicking him down the edge rather then figure out what the cause of the outburst was. People who just can't forgive and forget cause so much undue stress to people like Spoony who already have enough.

She's a horrible, horrible person for what she did to him. I hope Noah gets some serious help from his friends, because obviously channel awesome are not them.

 

[Treblaine]

Whatever, Spoony is too big for TGWTG and I go to his site more than TGWTG. Noah and Doug are two top dogs, they can't play in the same yard.

 

[Treblaine]

Also I think that LordKat should fuck off for being such a huge douche.

But being a huge douche is this thing. What will he have without that? He's the IRL comic-book-guy:

That's nothing against him, I LOVE him for that shtick and I think he'd fail horribly if he tried to be anything else, something he wasn't (good at). Remember, this isn't personal, this is showbiz. The show must go on, put aside your petty grievances and ENTERTAIN people.

Equivalent for Spoony, Doug, Lupa, etc. We don't care about your behind-the-scenes drama, just put on a good show. Spooony never needed any collaborations for that (except maybe with Angry Joe).

 

[TheGreekGeekPrick]

Yeah, nobody is blameless, Spoony's a fruit-bunny, he needs help etc. etc. etc. CA was right to let him go if they thought him a liability-- they are a business, nobody should expect anything different.

But I have to side with him on the dispute with his former colleagues, for one reason alone: he's unstable, but he's not a hypocrite.

Being professional means you leave this shit to human resources and public relations and ignore the situation on a public level until you are instructed differently. You don't make a (belated) post that targets another colleague's conduct, then parrot PR's mantra and at the same time aggressively answer questions on the subject to whoever asks, further burying that former colleague with your answers.


But more than that, the CA-employed side can bite me for claiming high moral ground. The situation was eyebrow-raising to begin with and then that scourge of comedy that is Lupa's boyfriend got involved and their side went for the "it was WRONG AND WE STOOD AGAINST IT" moralising BS. Frakk that noise. They're trying to set themselves up as crusaders and crusaders don't have a good rep-- for good reason. Also, when you're jumping on the bandwagon of the same feminist rhetoric your girlfriend employed and caused a shit-storm, but then you still rise up to her defence, you come off as a hypocritical buffoon. Can't have it both ways.

Finally, learn what MISOGYNY actually means.

 

[Someone Depressing]

Didn't like his newer stuff. And, he spent a whole 10-minutes complaining about how much Tidus sucks. Which he does, but he was completely over the top. Ok, so I didn't like his older stuff either. So, I don't care. Yippee me.