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Terminate421

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Im just hoping Empoleon some how doesn't become useless after this gen, last thing I need is some uber killer move that destroys steel types (other than earthquake)

The water starters stats look alot like him, if he swapped to a more physical form than special form. (I still prefer Empoleon though)
 

smartmoose

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I am really looking forward to this generation, lots of interesting mixes.

Also does anyone else feel that serebii mixed up 589 and 617.
 

Brightzide

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None of them appeal to me at all. All their names are just random words made up in a distant galaxy far far away. Whatever happened to playing with words like Charmander and Bulbasaur?...eh?..Char(burn)Mander(like salamander duh!) Burning or fiery slamander! Clever...not''insert random word here'' . Nowhere near as likeable as their predacessors ( or however that's spealt ). my honest opinion :p Though, if their names are word plays in japanese, then maybe I'll cut them some slack, but if not...bah, whatever.
 

Redlin5_v1legacy

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*sigh* That number kind of scares me. I will probably never catch them all.

I'm not going to check out Serebii because I always like it to be a surprise.

[sub][sub]It is "There", not "Their"...[/sub][/sub]

[HEADING=2]Top of the page FTW!!![/HEADING]
 

Buizel91

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Zemmy said:
None of them appeal to me at all. All their names are just random words made up in a distant galaxy far far away. Whatever happened to playing with words like Charmander and Bulbasaur?...eh?..Char(burn)Mander(like salamander duh!) Burning or fiery slamander! Clever...not''insert random word here'' . Nowhere near as likeable as their predacessors ( or however that's spealt ). my honest opinion :p Though, if their names are word plays in japanese, then maybe I'll cut them some slack, but if not...bah, whatever.
Their English names have not been confirmed, they are just their Japanese names.
 

PrimoThePro

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There*
Sorry, it was bugging me.
Anyways, I was opposed to all of these new Pokemon, but I have to say, some of these are freakin' awesome. Dageki looks really badass in his Martial Arts uniform. I should really get back in to Pokemon.
 

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...Gear? Really? REALLY? I'm sorry pokemon, but you guys need to admit you've run out of ideas. the first two gen of games were great, and they had awesome design. Third had a few decent, fourth was pretty "blech" imo, and this....meh. I really haven't played a pokemon game since third gen (that was ruby and sapphire, right?) and I'm kinda glad I left when I did.

Just took another look at them, slightly more "in-depth"...and there's an ice-cream pokemon. Fuck it, why not.
 

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the only thing i care about on this is it's 'there are 649 Pokemon' not 'their are 649 Pokemon'
 

Buizel91

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Grey_Focks said:
...Gear? Really? REALLY? I'm sorry pokemon, but you guys need to admit you've run out of ideas. the first two gen of games were great, and they had awesome design. Third had a few decent, fourth was pretty "blech" imo, and this....meh. I really haven't played a pokemon game since third gen (that was ruby and sapphire, right?) and I'm kinda glad I left when I did.

Just took another look at them, slightly more "in-depth"...and there's an ice-cream pokemon. Fuck it, why not.
They are not the English names! they are the Japanese names!

That's its, time to edit my OP
 

Ulquiorra4sama

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arc1991 said:
Ulquiorra4sama said:
arc1991 said:
Ulquiorra4sama said:
Do you really belive they'll EVER stop this? It's gonna go on forever 'cuz people love the games even if the pokemon don't look like real creatures anymore.

My personal opinion now is that they shoudl remake Red/Blue for a consol, give the games decent graphics and change in-game stuff like gameplay mechanics instead of just setting you out on the same journey just with new faces, place names and freaky-looking creatures.
I was thinking this a while a go. A 3rd-person Pokemon game. You get to start in what ever region you please and can either go through a personality test to get different starter Pokemon (Aipom, Magby, Elekid etc) or you can just take the regional starters. Same maps as the game boy games, maybe including Airports and expanding the towns and cities. Also the Pokemon levels in the wild and with trainers, follow the level of your current party Pokemon.

I think it could work, but Nintendo own it, and i can't see that happening.
My thoughts exactly, but it's not like they wouldn't have the time or money if they just stopped paying people to sit down and draw whatever creature they see in the form of a cloud and actually start working on something like your idea... or my idea (People has yet to recognize my genious)
The Multiplayer would be unreal, but i can't see them doing this =\
Battle Revolution was sort of a step in the right direction, but the animations were static and much too similar as well as some of the stages being down-right cheap in terms of attackpower and strategies. I managed to overcome them all and i have the title of Poketopis Master/King and i'm the Survival King ^_^ oh yeah... and it wasn't much of a free world at all
 

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I don't want to be another Red/Blue fanboy, but I do think that this is the worst generation of pokemon yet.
Gneration 4 wasn't my favourite batch of pokemon, but I thought the quality was starting to improve after Gen 3. What happened? Most of these look like rehashes of old ones, or are just horribly designed.
I'm not gonna say that there's NO good pokemon here (I do like the grass starter), but there had better be a fuckload of new features in the game to make me want to buy this instead of Soulsilver.
 

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Well, there's a lot to say, there's a lot of new Poke'mon too. Some are realy cool and others are just flying turds. I wrote mainly about the turds while having a second window open to this link http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml. feel free to do the same and have a look at each one as I point them out it'll make more sense that way.

514 and 516 I don't feel they fit the art style of Poke'mon they look too goofy and almost as if they're from a different ?universe? entirely.
The new apparently obligatory 3 stage bird 519-21 looks cool but do we really need a new one of these guys each time? They all look pretty much the same to me.
The bat one 527-28 has the dual problem of not fitting with the art style, I feel it looks too goofy as well and it?s already been done, (zubat and friends).
532 and 533 just look pretty unoriginal and uninteresting, their evolved form is slightly better though.
The 2 karate masters at 538 and 539 don't fit the art style of poke?mon either, (I think it's the cloths(take that however you will)).
546 and 547 have a different problem of just being a completely non-descript puffball. 549 looks just like belossum.
551-53 I like and don't like, I think they fit in but I feel like they look too much like their real world inspiration, really they?re just a bunch of crocodiles, but again they are a step up from everything else I've mentioned so far.
556, didn't we already have a cactus?
558 original and fits the art style but just looks ridiculous?
561 I'm not sure what they were going for here.
562 same as 561 but it feels less like a creature and more a cave drawing come to life.
563 I'm going to say this a couple times, it just looks stupid making a Pokémon that looks like a man-made object.
I know I've been concentrating a lot on the Poke'mon I don't like out of this set but let me just say that the sea turtle guy 564 and 565 looks freaken awesome! (and is totally not a blastoise clone, he looks different enough for me).
568 and 569 are walking puddles of what the hell am I looking at?? So much so that I don't think they fit the style the same way grimer and muck did.
581, again, just like the crock guy, looks too much like it's real world counterpart and in this case not cartoony enough to fit in.
583 and 584 no? just no? at least the sarcophagus looked cool.
586 looks too much like a reindeer, and they do in fact exist, just in case you weren't sure. 587, do we need another pikachu?? Least this one can fly.
589 not sure if it fits the style but it looks really cool.
590 and 591why??
592 the ghost octopus guy looks cooler before it evolves.
594, lovedisk anyone?
599 to 601 just scream unoriginality, the first one is even named ?Gear?.
I'm not sure if 619 fits the art style but if it evolves into 520, well that one definitely does.
623 just doesn't fit the art style well enough I think.
626 I?ve said this often enough already, if you?re looking at the pictures while reading this you know what I'll say.
629 and 630 just look goofy with those extra egg shell bits and bones, but least it's not a buffalo with a fro?
647 and 648, I think I?ve seen these 2 before? suicune and selebi anyone? And that selebi looks too human?

I don?t actually intend to get the new Poke'mon game, I lost interest in it a while back, you can only play the same game so many times and each one is pretty much the same as the last, the only changes are cosmetic. I'd also like to say that 649 Poke'mon is getting ridiculous and it's no wonder that ideas are starting to stagnate and they?re having a hard time coming up with new, original creatures. Honestly I would be happier if most of the ones I?ve mentioned were cut out completely, lets see, that'd be 43 that I think shouldn't be in the game and honestly that leaves over 100 perfectly good ideas and some I think were REALY good. Though some of those 43 that shouldn't be there were unfortunate collateral damage who were un-evolved forms of those Poke'mon who really could not stand on their own. To put it more clearly the ones that shouldn?t be there are 513-516, 519-521, 527 528, 532 533, 538 539, 546-549, 588, 561 563, 568 569, 580-586, 590 591, 599-601, 519, 623, 626, 629 630, 647 648
 

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arc1991 said:
Grey_Focks said:
...Gear? Really? REALLY? I'm sorry pokemon, but you guys need to admit you've run out of ideas. the first two gen of games were great, and they had awesome design. Third had a few decent, fourth was pretty "blech" imo, and this....meh. I really haven't played a pokemon game since third gen (that was ruby and sapphire, right?) and I'm kinda glad I left when I did.

Just took another look at them, slightly more "in-depth"...and there's an ice-cream pokemon. Fuck it, why not.
They are not the English names! they are the Japanese names!

That's its, time to edit my OP
then apparently the Japanese word for gear is... gear? how does that work out?
 

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Damn that Grass starter's evolution makes me want to pick it! Normally I'd go water or fire, but ANOTHER fire/fighting mix? The fighting type gets you raped by flying and psychic, and there are lots of those hanging around usually.
They've got three types of elemental monkey, that looks cool. The ground/dark crocodile thing is nice too.
 

timeadept

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DarkRyter said:
Dexiro said:
I've tried to keep an open mind but i'm convinced this is the worst generation yet.
A lot of them don't look too bad but they just don't like like pokemon at all, i just can't imagine myself catching these in the wild.

Besides my hate for most of them though i do have a few that i really like :D Every generation has it's gems.
Without even playing it, it's the worst generation yet?

And what do you mean "look like pokemon"? Last I checked, pokemon designs varied far too widely to fall under any one idea of what a pokemon "should" look like.

And besides, pokemon are more than their looks. Infinitely more.

(Also, 147 bst attack? HOLY SHIT!)
i think you can call it the worst yet without playing it, they've only made superficial changes to the game in each new one since the first 2 came out, just more poke'mon and modified option screens. poke'mon isn't even known for it's story and i know i'm getting off of what you're talking about but my point is all that really changes from game to game are the looks, so that's really all you have to go or need to go on when judging the new ones.