There's Starving People in Africa...

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Ohhi

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I just don't see the big deal because really people die get used to it I have never worried about the less fortunate and I never will I have my own problems to think of like paying my rent, my cable, my electricity etc. it's not my problem they don't have those things over in less fortunate countries it's just the way it is.
 

Void(null)

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There are tens of thousands of people starving in New York.

Everywhere people suffer... Its just not everyone gets an Oxfam commercial showing pictures of near death children sitting on the lap of some celebrity who was semi popular 10 years ago.
 

BanthaFodder

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I can understand it from parents (it's one of the classic "eat your greens" kinda arguments), but I HATE it when I get it from random people. like if you complain about something, like, "aw, X didn't come in the mail today... that SUCKS..." or "man, I got so much homework... worst day EVER...", and then some asshat rides in on his high-as-a-kite horse and tosses the ol' "you KNOW, there's people DYING of DISEASE and FAMINE right now, you shouldn't be bitching about your commercial CRAP."
oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know that there were ANY unhappy people on the world. honestly, I thought I was the only one. allow me to never EVER dislike something EVER again, because someone in the world has it worse than me. how frigging ignorant of me...
 

Xan Krieger

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Belated said:
-Yes, there's kids in Africa who've never played a video game. But that doesn't change the fact that Rumble Roses sucks.
It doesn't suck, I had more fun with that than with Half-life 2
 

Torrasque

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We talked about this kind of thing in my ethics class last term.
It basically boils down to this:

If you can do something for someone else that will benefit them, at low cost to yourself, then you should do it. If the cost is too high for yourself or it is not realistic for you to help them, then you should not do it.

The example that my prof used, was a child is drowning in a pool of water, and you walk by.
You can walk into the pool, save the child's life, and the only cost to yourself, is your shoes get wet, and your pants get a little wet.
In this example, you should save this child's life, because the cost to yourself is very small compared to your shoes and pants getting a little wet.

So, if I could guarantee my would benefit a child in Africa, then I would be happy to give that kid my , because it is not a big deal.
But I can't guarantee that it will.
The money can go to the aid organization, a militant group in the area, the government, etc.

So, we are all morally responsible for the starving kids in Africa, but I don't exactly have that much money to begin with.
Ethics aside, it usually comes down to "Do I want to take the time and effort to send money to a kid in Africa, or buy some cookies? Mmmmm... cookies"
 

Boris Goodenough

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I only give donations to Doctors Without Borders, giving money to the other orginisations just fuels corruption and wars, only about 5% ever actually gets the destination where it was supposed to go.
 

standokan

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I always think of it this way, we are used living this way, they are used living that way, by being used to it we're kinda living on the same level of happiness, I know that this logic doesn't really work but still, it's just a theory.
 

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Belated said:
How many times have you gotten this response? It's used to make you feel like a selfish rich brat. It's used to make you eat until you vomit. It's used by patriots who aren't willing to admit that their favorite country needs improvement. It's used to deprive you of your right to your own emotions. And it's the biggest bullshit cop out argument since "Life isn't always fair."

Alright, here's the deal. I'm fully aware that there's a starving child in Africa right now. We all know that. But I don't see him here right now, do you? No? Then quit bringing him up. Just because somebody has it worse, doesn't mean I don't have a right to complain. All it means is that we BOTH have a right to complain, but he just has a much bigger right to complain. That's how I see it. (Examples in the spoiler)

-Yes, there's starving kids in Africa. But that doesn't change the fact that I'm still full and I'm going to puke if you make me cram any more potatoes down my pie-hole. And somehow, I doubt my puke is going to help the Africans out any.

-Yes, there's kids in Africa who've never even seen a computer. But that doesn't change the fact that we still use dial-up.

-Yes, there's kids in Africa who've never played a video game. But that doesn't change the fact that Rumble Roses sucks.

-Yes, there's places in Africa without any kind of education. But that doesn't change the fact that some schools see fit to punish the wrong kids. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.270535-Ridiculous-Victim-finally-stands-up-to-a-bully-and-ends-up-being-handed-a-suspension-VIDEOINCLUDED]

-Yes, there's kids in Africa who will probably die today. But that doesn't change the fact that you just severed my finger.

-Yes, there's places in Africa that don't have hospitals. But those are useless to us if we don't have insurance.

-Yes, there's places in Africa without any kind of law enforcement, but I'm being charged with a sex offense just because I took a piss in public in my yard.

What do you think? Are we all just a bunch of rich jerks unaware of how well we have it? Or am I actually onto something here? Also, post examples of this argument being used on you. (And no, most of the above examples have never happened to me.)
Option A. If you feel you are entitled to a "right" to complain, I suppose you could file that under free speech. But I'd see it as a tremendous waste of a right that people fought and died for us to...

Dammit, I just lost you, didn't I?

I'm confused by the "you just severed my finger" and "sex offense" lines. If your big brother has cut off your finger and you don't have insurance, please understand that there are charity hospitals here (Incidentally, there are ONLY charity hospitals in africa, and most are open-air. But you're not in africa, so you won't have nearly the risk of contracting MRSA, which is as lifelong and sexually communicable as Herpes). And public indecency is not a sex offense, and I would take the position that your neighbors have the right to NOT see your pecker just because you want to pretend you're pissing in Africa.

I am truly sorry that your parents make you eat until you vomit. You may want to call Child Protective Services on them. Too much vomiting and you may do permanent damage to the lining of your upper GI tract.

I believe you said, "...he's not here right now, is he?" (No, because he just died of AIDS/starved to death/was shot in the head by the Junta/was murdered for the diamonds your mother wears around her neck). "Just because some people have it worse" (meaning dead) "doesn't mean I don't have the right to complain." (Recall the Declaration of Independence, all men being endowed with Life, Liberty, and the right to piss and moan until one has no friends left). "Are we all a bunch of rich jerks unaware of how well we have it?" (I don't know, do you own a cell phone? Have you ever wondered how you were going to get to school / work once they repo'd your car?) The answer is, yes. Absolutely.
 

funguy2121

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I hate that argument, it's always tempting to come back with 'ah yes...but WHY are they starving?'

Besides, some of the most jaw droppingly moronic charity campaigns are tied in to the idea that Africans need 'uplifting' to a Western lifestyle. The lack of priorities stuns me some days, it really does.

1. Computers for Africa. Guess what? They don't NEED computers! Computers require infrastructure, they require resources and if we're honest what the fuck are they going to do with them?

2. Sports equipment for Africa. Nope, if a community is so grindingly poor that they can't afford sports equipment then there are better things you could be buying them.

3. Schools for Africa. Look, let's be honest here. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with a fairly low tech agricultural community. There's a whole bunch of shit that we learn in the west that an African in a very poor community doesn't need to know. Conversely there's a few things we view as quaint that would be of very great interest to him; sustainable farming techniques and mechanical seed drills for example.

4. Shoes for Africans. As distasteful as some people may find it a good proportion of the world's population survives perfectly happily barefoot. We didn't evolve with shoes there so we can cope.

In short, if you want to really help you need to help with:

. food
. water
. basic power
. shelter

as far as I'm concerned, unless you're helping in a way the poor sods'll find actually useful then you've got no right to complain that I'm not helping.
1. Computers for the general public...I'd agree
2. Sports Equipment. Again, assuming they aren't sophisticated enough to "get" PS3, what are they gonna do when they're bored? Play soccer, or start doing smalltime stuff for the local warlord? And it's not like soccer balls and baseball bats are expensive. But once they go pro, juicing is gonna prove costly, so I see your point :)
3. No, they certainly don't need education at all! When we give them birth control, they can keep on wearing it around their necks like mystic charms. See also 2. Perhaps, as happens in absolutely every other community on earth, where there is better, more sophisticated education, there will be less crime?
4. Yes, let them live like barbarians. I'm sure the children enjoy coming home with cracked, bleeding feet. Tell you what: YOU give up shoes for the rest of your life and I'll cede your point.

And no one's complaining that you're not helping. Most people are either too useless to help or can't really do much at the present because they're barely keeping their own crap together as the global economy takes a nosedive. Try being a little more compassionate, not all of us think they're all cavemen over there.
 

Gaming King

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America wastes way too *** damn much food. That much is clear and needs to be changed. But yeah, when people try to get you to act how they want by shoving something about starving people down your throat, that's obnoxious and retarded.
 

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I stopped caring. Sorry they have starved for years, everyone donates millions, nothing changes.
I accept that it will never change, so I just stopped caring. No guilt, nothing.
That is sad because it is so untrue.
 

MisterM2402

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How come you're always such a fussy young man,
Don't want no Captain Crunch, don't want no Raisin Bran,
Well dontcha know that other kids are starving in Japan so,
EAT IT! Just eat it.
Weird Al Yankovic
 

TheYellowCellPhone

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Corwynt said:
I just tell the person that I hope they all die or that I don't care about black people. That gets them every time.
Okay, so I laughed at this comment and am probably going to use this now.

...Teehee.