Things that good movies could remove in order to become great movies?

[sanspec]

The end of Death Race.
Ok the movie wasnt great, but it was pretty much a violent version of Mario Kart and who doesnt find that mildly ammusing. But the whole film goes thru with car chases, explosions and a petrol-tanker with flametrowers and a Tank cannon. Then the end turns into a love fest about this guys daughter or some shit.

Cut the last 10mins off this and finish it when the prison Warden blows up. Would make it way better.

hahahaha violent version of mario kart hehehe.
but yeah i agree with you, it was a "leave your brain at the door" action movie with little dialouge and a story line you snuff at.
dont get me wrong its a good movie, worth my money, but when they got away at the end, i was ready to leave the cinema untill they played that last bit as if to say....well thats all folks.....oh yea i almost forgot the dam story line, here.

 

[xChevelle24]

Things that good movies could remove in order to become great movies?

Ben Affleck.

All the great movies don't have Ben Affleck in them.

 

[Symp4thy]

What i really hate are "Disneyfied" Endings, especially in Pixar Movies.

Two Examples:

Monsters, Inc.

I love the film mostly for all the Sci-Fi-Horror like Scenes when this Child is discovered in "the monster world" and everyone panics. And scaring these Kids to produce power is very clever.
I'm okay with the kid turning out to be not "toxic" and the protagonists bonding with it...but the reveal that laughing kids produce a lot more power? Come on, that was just lame (along with the entire epilogue...it just sucked).


WALL-E

I really like that movie, but the third act is so....generic.
And it would be a lot more touching if the repaired WALL-E would've stayed "resetted", maybe regaining his personality SLOWLY thanks to EVE, but the wonderous Insta-Heal thingie was so forced and boring that it would've been just better if WALL-E would not get damaged in the first place...

I'm not sure if this was sarcasm or a joke, and if it was, I apologize. You do realize Pixar is part of Disney and these are movies for kids, right? They are supposed to have happy "Disneyfied" endings.

 

[Z of the Na'vi]

The entire movie of Eragon. Remake it to actually follow the story of the first book and not cut out mostly all of it.

 

[xChevelle24]

Wanted bugged the shit out of me.
I hadn't really payed attention to the film when it was out in the cinema but was bored and asked my flatmate for a loan of a dvd to watch - he had Wanted and thought why not, it was special addition or somthing and had the first chapter or so of the original comic inside so I gave it a read and thought

"Wow this looks awesome they hinted at traveling through dimensions and supernatural creatures, hot chicks shooting up places for no reason and general crazy shit!"

Then the whole film turned out to be a bunch of people spinning bullets round things - meh.

I agree.

The whole "curving bullets" thing was pretty stupid, and the storyline was just as ridiculous. Although I did love how Angelina Jolie showed everyone how to REALLY commit murder/suicide.

 

[bindox]

George Clooney.

(Any Movie starring George Clooney) - George Clooney = Superior Movie

 

[ezeroast]

pearl harbor, cant remember his name but he was a cook on one of the ships had about 1 minute of dialogue and was the best part of the movie

 

[Da_Schwartz]

Transformers would have been much much better without michael bayes. Also the same goes for any uwe boll flicks. A few of them had potential and even decent casts but just got ruined by that german fuckwit.

I thought Mr. Bay did a hell of a job on transformers. I mean i'ts right up his ally. I agree he ruins alot of things he touches however what he does (over excessive violence added onto a pre-existing storyline) He does very well. Like transformers...Hills have eyes remakes..Texas chainsaw remakes..and amityville horror remake which was actually one of the best horror movies i've seen in years when it was released. Also not a bad job on the last friday the 13th, but the upcoming nightmare on elm street has me a little worried.

As for the topic thread. I'd take Arnold out of mr. freezes suit in batman. Robin out of the entire movie. Never use Val kilmer as batman. George colloney too. He was never really batman. he was moreso burce wayne in a batmans suit. Id also take the nipples off of the chest plate. The neon off of the thugs. 3 and 4 were HORRID just delete them out of the entire franchise. And although not as bad as freeze or robin i'd re-cast jim carrey as riddler and jones as two face. I mean entertaing..kinda...but completely missed the mark.

I also think they should remove the idea of never having a robin in the new batman movies. I know bale doesn't want to share the screen but now that we're past his origins his raspy voice will only go so far. He's gonna get the batmobile in the next one. SO if you found a GOOD robin i'm all for it. My vote goes to the guy who plays Richard from legend of the seeker. He'd be perfect. ANyway off topic. lol im done.

 

[capnjack]

I Am Legend.

The film was amazing, at least for the first two thirds. And then the kid shows up, and everything turns to balls, and the original message of the novel is completely turned about and shat upon.

I don't think I've ever been so disappointed.

For me, the whole thing is just a disappointment.

What the hell was wrong with just adapting the original novel 1:1?
At least for me, due to the short length and straightforward storytelling, it translated pretty well into a "mind movie" in my imagination.

With the Main Character just being a normal guy, and not a super military soldier/scientist?
With the "Vampires" being more intelligent and organized?
Without Scenes of Will Smith showing his "loneliness" by letting him talk to strategically placed mannequins?
And of course, with the real ending that explains the whole "I am Legend" thing? (The alternate Ending to the Movie at least trys that, but still misses kinda the point)

I agree 100% with this. I actually really enjoyed the movie... Until I read the book. And then I realized that the movie played it way too safe, and wasn't anywhere near as haunting as the book is. The more I read the book, the more the movie seemed like nothing but a bad version of 28 Days Later.

 

[Frybird]

My talky rant about "Disneyfied" Endings in Pixar Movies

I'm not sure if this was sarcasm or a joke, and if it was, I apologize. You do realize Pixar is part of Disney and these are movies for kids, right? They are supposed to have happy "Disneyfied" endings.

Yes, i've seen the Disney Logo in Front of a Pixar Movie. Yes, i know the Movies are for Kids.

MAYBE "disneyfied" was not a proper term.

However, despite the movies being primarily for Kids, i think they would still be better without...the examples i've given, for example.

Kids can handle more than Disney seems to think, and it is all a big awkward since i remember a time where especially Disney Movies would be pretty ballsy from time to time in showing Kids how cruel things can be (...Take Lion King or Bambi)

And i think Kids could draw much more valuable lessons from Movies where things don't end in the best possible way for the protagonists. And, as i said, they would be more enjoyable overall

 

[cgride555]

I say take the love stories out of super-hero movies. Thats what ruined Spider-man 3. I think since they had such a big-named actress (Kirsten Dunst), they felt it necessary to give her as much time as the other supporting characters, but how many times is this broad gonna get kidnapped right in time for the final battle? I thought the first two movies tied up the love story conflict pretty well, so to see it resurface in the 3rd was unexcusable. Same with Wolverine in relation to Jean-Grey in X3."Lets kill Cyclops before the film even starts so Wolverine can cry a lot." NOT NEEDED!!! Ironman was great!!! Perhaps the best so far (keep in mind I havn't seen Wolverine yet), and it kept the love story to a minimum. I guess they do it to pull the female audience in, but thats bogus.

 

[cgride555]

If they changed the total BS ending of "The Mist", it could have been a great horror film. The end just tried to screw with your mind.

Spoiler: Ending spoiler

The main character shoots his 8-year-old son in the forehead with his last bullet so he doesn't have to experience the horror of being eaten by monsters. Not 2 minutes later, the main character gets rescued by the military and taken to a safe camp. It was messed up and just left a bad taste in my mouth.

I kind of liked the ending. It was bitter-sweet and original. Whats more horrific than having to do what the main character had to do?

 

[experiment0789]

I don't like some Prequels. Prequels are great, but it seems the common thing to do with them is gut/cut out the story and make it purely an Action film.I have read all the Harry Potter books and was excited to see them made into movies. Now I'm not one of those people who camp out in front of stores for something, but I was disappointed when I saw the movies. So far I will only watch the first three, the other ones are so pumped up on steroids, that they are just impostors that are just using the name to get more movie sales.

 

[Symp4thy]

Kids can handle more than Disney seems to think, and it is all a big awkward since i remember a time where especially Disney Movies would be pretty ballsy from time to time in showing Kids how cruel things can be (...Take Lion King or Bambi)

And i think Kids could draw much more valuable lessons from Movies where things don't end in the best possible way for the protagonists. And, as i said, they would be more enjoyable overall

I gotta agree with you there, despite my last post. Kids are too coddled these days. We don't need to protect them from every little emotional upset.

 

[tikiwargod]

Absolutely ANY movie with a sex scene added for no other reason then to increase sales. Yes, fine, a tasteful scene now and again is fine, but,

"Whew, I just killed 30 armed men with my toes. Wanna sleep with me?"

"Are you the main character?"

"You know it."

"Let's roll."

is unacceptable. It makes me mad, and bumps the rating up for completely avoidable reasons. Even better is when the girl isn't shown for the rest of the film.

This. I find it completely useless unless it`s an artistic scene, for example shoot em` up did a sex scene fused with an action scene and it came off as well accomplished. This also is done well in the Ben Kinglsey movie `The Wackness` where it`s a cruscial (spl?) plot point. If it`s done well I think a sex scene can have it`s place in a film but it needs to actually bring something to the story on a emotional level or in view of character relations.

 

[tikiwargod]

Played by cuba Gooding Jr., best part of the movie, even better than Alec Baldwin.

 

[Damien the Pigeon]

If they changed the total BS ending of "The Mist", it could have been a great horror film. The end just tried to screw with your mind.

Spoiler: Ending spoiler

The main character shoots his 8-year-old son in the forehead with his last bullet so he doesn't have to experience the horror of being eaten by monsters. Not 2 minutes later, the main character gets rescued by the military and taken to a safe camp. It was messed up and just left a bad taste in my mouth.

I kind of liked the ending. It was bitter-sweet and original. Whats more horrific than having to do what the main character had to do?

Well yeah, but I felt that it was unnecessary. It went from being a supernatural horror movie to a psychological one. It just felt like a weird transition that was altogether unneeded.

 

[traceur_]

Transformers would have been much much better without Michael Bay.

You're kidding right? If it wasn't for the epic of Micheal Bay that movie would have just been a cartoon. He did an amazing job with that movie.

 

[ZombieVictor]

I got one actually, the token black character.
This is a trend that has to stop.

Oaky first of all the writers have no idea how to write black characters, so their behaviour is essentially a stupid stereotype.

But the main reason is that most of the time movies add a black character to the story so as not to be accused of being racist when casting....
So to try to announce how 'not racist' they are they decide to add an out of place, obnoxious and annoying ethnic character who stands out from the rest of the characters and usually has little to no relevance to the actual PLOT. Who was added just because (s)he is black.
Isn't that just as racist when you think about it? Because they only do that to draw attention to the fact that the person's skin is a different colour to the others. You shouldn't need to add an ethnic character to a cast just for the sake of having one.

How about some examples of movies with a token black character that was not integral to the plot?

Hey my seven hundreth post.

My main example is that after Scream had an entirely white cast that all fit in with the actual story people complained about the absense of black people. So they came back with a tonne of other black characters who were not needed and stood out in the story.

Also that movie evolution, the black guy could have been completely cut from production.. no one would have noticed.

I just thought the idea of the thread was to name movies. Not just partocular elements. But you named Evolution. Not that many people even remember that movie.

Uhm. Let's remove the sequel of MIB in it's entirety as it was crap.