This shit has to stop.

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Wait. Are there any men that actually wear panties, pantyhose, skirts, or heels? That aren't drag queens? Is there a market for that kind of thing?

Tiger Sora said:
You know what you must do. You must nuke LA right off the map. This is where these terms came from. Now destroy it and become one with the darker dark side.
That would be a dark side action? I thought that would have been a light side/paragon action. You learn something new everyday, I guess.

Jarimir said:
Replace/add hating "man-" with "bro-" and I am right with ya br- NO! I mean my friend ^.^
Oh God. I hate when people say bro. I immediately drop my opinion of them and their IQ falls 50 points.
 

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Scytail said:
Rant incoming.

This. http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/beauty/mankinis-murses-and-man-bags-a-glossary-of-mens-fashion-terms-2550341#photoViewer=6

This has to stop.

And not just with the "mirts," or "mankini," and the dreaded "man-bag" but the retarted combination of words. Like "staycation." Its not a stay at home vacation. It means your fuckin broke. That garbage is worse than everything having to be "PC" (politically correct for those of you who might not know)

Ill give you a run down of the worst for those that dont feel like rotting their brain by clicking on the link.

And feel free to post your own most hated word combinations.

Mandals = Man sandals
Murse = Man purse
Mewlery = Man jewlery
Meggings = Man leggins
Marfists = Man scarfs
Mantyhose = Man pantyhose
Manties = Man panties
Mirts = Man skirts
Meels = Man heels
Looking through your post at first I thought you were homophobic. Upon a second or third read it was obvious that was not the case. Then on the third read I realised you thought the pictures would "rot someones brain". Hmmm.

Overall conclusion? You are homophobic.

emeraldrafael said:
What!!! Someone dares to enjoy a fashion sense that I expressive hate being stuck in a 19 century view on gender roles and the way they should dress!? Clearly this shit must stop, because how dare men choose to dress different!

OT: all joking aside, I dont see anything wrong iwth it. I personally cant get into sandels, but I dont have the feet for them. Plus I've never found a good pair that I could run it like I have tennis shoes.

and also, a murse is a male nurse. A man purse is called a napsack or a satchel.
What he said, minus the "All joking aside". The fact that the words exist pisses me off to no end (They are pantyhose. They should still be called as much. Differentiating between the male and female versions is not something that I am pro, at all. The words should be destroyed, NOT the items) everyone has the right to wear what they like.

Like I said, the words really, really annoy me for different reasons. But the backlash (Even though most of it hasn't been that bad and is mainly jokey) makes me shake my head at the internet.

kouriichi said:
Yet another reason ive lot all faith in humanity.

Well, at least this fad will never catch on.

.....i hope......
You have lost faith in humanity because men have started to expand their wardrobes? You are aware that boys and girls both used to wear dresses, that pink used to be a male colour and blue a female colour. Hell, The inevention of the terms "Boy" and "Girl" aint as old as you might think mate.

I thought the internet was a mildly tolerant place...

*reads through page 2*

Right, this wont get much longer, I am about to explode.

Polarity27 said:
I hate this too, and I think it's sexist-- it implies that it's not "manly" to be seen wearing these things, so therefore a special term has to be invented to make it okay for a man to cross into the forbidden realm of the "relegated to women". See also: Bronies, another term I fucking detest for the same damn reason. (Can't call themselves "MLP:FiM fans" and thereby join a fandom that's been around since the '80s, because that fandom is mostly female and the show is about female characters, so it needs a special term to reclaim it for men to feel safe doing it!)

BTW, the people using these terms ought to realize that most if not all of these items were worn (and very fashionably) by men before they were considered women's wear. Including sandals, hose, and heels. And pink, for that matter, once considered a very manly color (during Victorian times) because it was near in hue to blood-- the "womanly" color then was, ironically enough, blue, because it was considered passive and evocative of the Virgin Mary. Even "metrosexuals" are doing nothing more than following in the footsteps of Beau Brummell.
Thankyou, you expressed my opinion properly wheras I was getting a bit jumbled. Good to see that someone is on the same page.
The Virgo said:
sravankb said:
I think this is quite relevant here -



There's something wrong when men have less muscle on them than most women nowadays.
Ha! That's too funny! At least there's Tom Hardy to fix that.




== Divider ==


You know, the same thing can be said for women. How did we go from this:


to THIS?:



By the way, that wasn't meant to be misogynistic or derogatory or anything like that. But women were a lot more pleasant a long time ago, whereas a lot women these days think that "sexy" = "dressing like a slut". Sophia Loren could be sexy without showing ANYTHING.
You may not have meant to be but you most certainly were being misogynistic. How old are you bro? Cause you will find that with age comes changing of styles. And you know what? Its a demographic sort of thing. Bleh.

I have a feeling this will all turn nasty.

tldr?
Terms = I hate
Items = I am neutral
Sexism, even accidental = I think you should jump into a fire.
You made a wonderfully exhaustive summary and critique of this thread. While I agree on several accounts, the finger-wagging may only engender more vitriolic responses.
 

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It's not the clothes- it's the NAMES that I can't stand. When women started to wear pants we didn't give them a moronic name like "wants" or something. If men want to wear tights and skirts they can damn well call them tights and skirts.
 

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Scytail said:
Rant incoming.

This. http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/beauty/mankinis-murses-and-man-bags-a-glossary-of-mens-fashion-terms-2550341#photoViewer=6

This has to stop.

And not just with the "mirts," or "mankini," and the dreaded "man-bag" but the retarted combination of words. Like "staycation." Its not a stay at home vacation. It means your fuckin broke. That garbage is worse than everything having to be "PC" (politically correct for those of you who might not know)

Ill give you a run down of the worst for those that dont feel like rotting their brain by clicking on the link.

And feel free to post your own most hated word combinations.

Mandals = Man sandals
Murse = Man purse
Mewlery = Man jewlery
Meggings = Man leggins
Marfists = Man scarfs
Mantyhose = Man pantyhose
Manties = Man panties
Mirts = Man skirts
Meels = Man heels
you forgot moobs!!
 

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This is what prolly ticked me off the most.

"After almost a decade of these hybrid terms, editors of the Oxford English Dictionary are finally taking note. The Wall Street Journal reports that the people with the power to make "bootylicious" part of the English language are now considering those confounding men's fashion contractions for their next edition."

SERIOUSLY?!? I will burn every copy of the Oxford English Dictionary that I can find if any of these words are added.
Words that people use get put in the dictionary. Shocking that.

Anyway, that article writer seems to have just stuck the m- in front of everything themselves (apart from the mankini). Who cares?
 

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dietpeachsnapple said:
Unnecessarily long quote post
To me, the surest way to show that you aren't actually as old (or self-deluded into experience) as you think you are, is to throw out questioning someone's age immediately, and as a center point. Older people know better than to believe it's that centrally important, and have better points to make.

Edit OT: I can't say anything everyone hasn't said but, yes, pantyhose are women's clothing, I don't care how secure you are. And Mandals? Really? Was there ever a question that men did and can wear them?
 

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Scytail said:
That garbage is worse than everything having to be "PC" (politically correct for those of you who might not know)
I'll just direct you here:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-big-picture/2783-Correctitude

It's just called being nice.

Also:
emeraldrafael said:
What!!! Someone dares to enjoy a fashion sense that I expressive hate being stuck in a 19 century view on gender roles and the way they should dress!? Clearly this shit must stop, because how dare men choose to dress different!

OT: all joking aside, I dont see anything wrong iwth it. I personally cant get into sandels, but I dont have the feet for them. Plus I've never found a good pair that I could run it like I have tennis shoes.

and also, a murse is a male nurse. A man purse is called a napsack or a satchel.
This completely. I would also add (to the OP), sarcastically: Thanks for giving the Escapist another sexist thread. We were missing one yesterday. I'm glad someone took the initiative to create somewhere for the sexist male community members to rant about 'real men' and make fun of 'men looking like women'. They would be bored otherwise.

For those of you not following along, if you suggest a man is 'less of a man' for choosing to do something that you personally associate with women, you are implicitly stating that things you associate with women are worth less. You are saying that what is 'less than a man' is a woman. Men should be free to choose to do whatever they want and dress/act however they want without other men shutting them down. To suggest otherwise is to suggest you prefer traditional 'women in the kitchen/men watching football' dichotomy. You are sexist towards both men and women.

This is why some men feel like people(men and women) see them differently if they choose to stay home with the kids while the wife works. It isn't fair to anyone, not even yourself.
 

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I had no idea these things even existed for men and that they actually wear them, except the Sandals. Men Sandals? Weren't Sandals invented a long time ago by the ancient Greeks for men and I know a lot of guys who wear them.
But some of those things are just ugly when they're worn by men. Some just cross the line but to each their own I guess. If they want to look like stupid, it's not my problem.
 

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I don't know about the rest of the words but I want to create a brand of "MAN ONLY!" rollerscates called "Meels on Wheels".
 

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We get it guys. You don't like crossdressers, and people who are different are fun to pick on.

Sure, this is kinda out there, and not something I'd be interested in, but this is really just some off the wall wierd fetish, just like the thousands of other off the wall wierd fetishes we could be commenting on.

"Did you know... Some men want to dress in women's clothes?!"

GASP

"Did you know... Some people like being tied up?"

GASP

"Did you know... Some people even like being hit and abused?!"

GASP!!!

Seriously, I don't see what's so wrong about leaving this to the obscure corner of the internet where it belongs.
 

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intheweeds said:
For those of you not following along, if you suggest a man is 'less of a man' for choosing to do something that you personally associate with women, you are implicitly stating that things you associate with women are worth less. You are saying that what is 'less than a man' is a woman. Men should be free to choose to do whatever they want and dress/act however they want without other men shutting them down. To suggest otherwise is to suggest you prefer traditional 'women in the kitchen/men watching football' dichotomy. You are sexist towards both men and women.
Just to be Devil's advocate; How is saying someone is less of a man any different than saying a women in a trouser suit is less of a women? I'll concede that it demonstrates a very conservative and old fashioned outlook, but that doesn't necessarily equate to sexism.

I consider a guy in a dress to be less of a man because my personal conditioning has made me equate dresses with women but it doesn't mean I consider the person less of a human being.

Man and women are just labels with no inherent status or power than an individual chooses to give them; in essence, by saying you consider the term "less of a man" derogatory, you are the one being sexist as you are ascribing status to the word man over women.
 

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gof22 said:
Mewlery sounds more like jewelry that is made for cats or those cat like things that are in Pokemon. I never liked sandals. I wore them once when I was really young and they caused me to trip.
How did anyone forgot that the right term for man jewelry is "bling", at least "bling" actually sounds manly
 

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I really had the intention to come in here doused in flames and kick that reaction down a step by insisting the response is a little strong for all the subject is...

But reading that site just makes me unhappy... So carry on fighting the good fight I'm going to go pretend Jeggings isn't a real thing while I play some Minecraft.
 

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Scytail said:
Tiger Sora said:
You know what you must do. You must nuke LA right off the map. This is where these terms came from. Now destroy it and become one with the darker dark side.
Are their cookies more tasty than the regular darkside?
Yes, plus every thursday is doughnut day.

OT: There terms are hideous, much like the people who use IM chat expressions in real life. This includes the 12 year olds who butcher English on the XB.

Why do they feel the need to do this? specifically with this issue, Scarves have NEVER been exclusively for women, neither have bags, nor jewelry!! I thought jewelry had a modern name. "BLING" ... wow guys... seriously....
 

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Fawcks said:
We get it guys. You don't like crossdressers, and people who are different are fun to pick on.

Sure, this is kinda out there, and not something I'd be interested in, but this is really just some off the wall wierd fetish, just like the thousands of other off the wall wierd fetishes we could be commenting on.

"Did you know... Some men want to dress in women's clothes?!"

GASP

"Did you know... Some people like being tied up?"

GASP

"Did you know... Some people even like being hit and abused?!"

GASP!!!

Seriously, I don't see what's so wrong about leaving this to the obscure corner of the internet where it belongs.
It isnt exacly the same, this is what is called "fashion" nowadays, its not just guys that like to dress in women's clothes, being dressed this way is now the "right" way.

The problem is that these guys will probably make fun of the "average" t-shirt and jeans combo guy because he isnt up to date with the fashion standards. And trust me, I already saw this happening.
 

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Scytail said:
It means your fuckin broke.
I agree to pretty much everything you said, but if ANYTHING has to stop, it's this. Improper usage of "Your / you're", "its / it's" and "There / their / they're".
Sorry to use you as an example, but this is so annoying to me.
 

Neverhoodian

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Fawcks said:
We get it guys. You don't like crossdressers, and people who are different are fun to pick on.

Sure, this is kinda out there, and not something I'd be interested in, but this is really just some off the wall wierd fetish, just like the thousands of other off the wall wierd fetishes we could be commenting on.

"Did you know... Some men want to dress in women's clothes?!"

GASP

"Did you know... Some people like being tied up?"

GASP

"Did you know... Some people even like being hit and abused?!"

GASP!!!

Seriously, I don't see what's so wrong about leaving this to the obscure corner of the internet where it belongs.
The problem isn't so much dressing different from the norm. If the person in question is happy with their choice in clothing, then who am I to take that away from them? What I do have a problem with is changing the vernacular for no good reason.

I dressed in drag once back in high school for an in-class adaptation of Shakespeare's Twelfth Night (yes, it was meant to be funny). I went the whole nine yards, even going so far as to cinch myself up in a corset (I gained a newfound respect for Victorian women, let me tell you). Not once did I refer to it as a "morset," "broset" or any other meaningless euphemism. And this was for a costume that I was frankly more than a little embarrassed to be seen wearing in public.

These men on the other hand are more than happy to flaunt their particular fashion choices for the world to see. If that's the case, shouldn't they be confident enough to refer to their clothing by its proper name?