To all the Europeans and Aussie's on this forum...
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And I totally agree gun-education always trumps regulation (see Switzerland), but you need to get your country to practice what you preach. Start a petition for mandatory gun safety lectures in schools, could be like sex ed...but with guns. (heh role reversal, the liberal kids parents would write them notes to get out it)Sgt.Looney said:
Its awesome, but you've got to it the manly way with a bow and arrow (which we NEVER did because its illegal with a permit)Sketchy said:
As an American, I must say that I stay as far away from guns as possible. Something that can kill with little more than a twitch of the finger makes me very nervous. If I were to get one, I'd get a rifle for nothing more than hunting.
Canadians have way more guns than the US, and while true that you Canadian gun owners are less likely to be a fuckwit than your gun-totting counterpart in the US, gun control in Australia and lack of gun related crimes go hand in hand down under. I honestly feel no necessity for guns in Australia. I have had two attempted robbery and assaults on me, one with a bunch of unarmed guys and a guy with a knife. I fought them both off and managed to get away with only a few bruises. Now imagine if they had guns instead.Lost In The Void said:
well obviously guns arent the only thing that causes crime, and i never said that, what i did say was that making guns illegal will make the country safer cause it removes the guns from peoples homes therefore removing the risk of an accident in the house, oh, and i never said that every american owns a gun, im just saying that alot of them do.Sgt.Looney said:
If you dont believe me, just look at the statistics for gun related accidents and killings and compare USA with a country that doesnt have legalized firearms, Sweden for example, all statistics show that it makes for a safer country.
EDIT: Found a sentence that made absolutely no sense, so fixed it to what i had planned to write.
I'm not all that into having firearms for sport. I don't people that get them for hunting purposes though. That of course means rifles, not handguns.
Personally, I wouldn't mind having a collection of rifles with the firing mechanism removed and/or the barrel closed off. For some reason, I've always been into the looks of the guns, not the things that come out of the barrel.
Personally, I wouldn't mind having a collection of rifles with the firing mechanism removed and/or the barrel closed off. For some reason, I've always been into the looks of the guns, not the things that come out of the barrel.
The idea is you need guns to protect yourself from other people with guns... Yea that makes sence. No it's hard to get a gun in belgium. The only reason why you can own one is because you hunt (you can't walk up to a store and say: euh yeah I hunt on animals, please give me a p90).
Or if you are a cop/in the army. We don't have that many dieing here by guns. If people die due to crime, it's because of knifestabs. Except the mob, they have guns here and they tend to shoot at cops =/.
Or if you are a cop/in the army. We don't have that many dieing here by guns. If people die due to crime, it's because of knifestabs. Except the mob, they have guns here and they tend to shoot at cops =/.
I'm Australian and I can own all the guns I want if I get a gun license, I'm not sure who told you we couldn't have guns at all? The only thing that isn't allowed are semi-automatic rifles. you can still have semi auto handguns if you belong to a gun club.
So no I'm not jealous that Americans can get free guns for opening a bank account (Watch bowling for columbine) I prefer our method where you have to get a permit and prove yourself responsible before you can get a gun.
So no I'm not jealous that Americans can get free guns for opening a bank account (Watch bowling for columbine) I prefer our method where you have to get a permit and prove yourself responsible before you can get a gun.
No, I don't need one either for self defense or hunting* and am glad that ownership is very limited in the UK. You can obtain a liscence for a firearm in the UK but it's limited to shotguns with 3 rounds or less and bolt action rifles.
As far as america goes, I don't give a flying fuck, they can do what they want inside their own borders, it's none of my concern.
*that said, I would like to own a Lee Enfield No4 MK2 or a MK1(T), not to shoot, just to have and in theory I could but its a kinda expensive ornament.
As far as america goes, I don't give a flying fuck, they can do what they want inside their own borders, it's none of my concern.
*that said, I would like to own a Lee Enfield No4 MK2 or a MK1(T), not to shoot, just to have and in theory I could but its a kinda expensive ornament.
Oh, I'm sorry, did Petric in fact not shoot his parents with his father's own gun? I must have completely misread that story, how silly of me.rads are your friend said:
Yes, people do give you a lot of unfair stick, and have a pretty dickish 'superior' attitude, but Im afraid I've got to call you out on those 2. We do not have anywhere near the rate of gun crime in the US:rads are your friend said:
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/crime-victims/reducing-crime/gun-crime/ (v quick summary)
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs08/hosb0308.pdf (Looooong version)
Last time you heard 'crime' (what crime? murder? rape? overall? stealing street cones? petty vandalism?...cause we sure do have a lot of petty vandalism and petty theft) was higher in the UK hmm?
http://uk.sitestat.com/homeoffice/rds/s?rds.hosb0708pdf&ns_type=pdf&ns_url=[http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs08/hosb0708.pdf] (Looooong version again)
Compare them to your own.
and on the off chance you want to argue about the statistics the methodological information is at the bottom of this page:
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/crimeew0708.html