To the pissed off DMC fans...

[Josh Kurber]

An unjust end to a brilliant series of over-the-top fluent story driven action made by a franchise reboot that was not wanted.

Whatever the future holds for this title and the possible sequels it may have I for once will remember the days when DMC was actually entertaining, new and had as much impact on the gaming community as the God of War series.

It's a darn shame what they did to him, I was really looking forward to see the story pick up where they left on in the 4th game, what call would Dante and "the team" would listen and what troubles would they get themselves into.

I already disliked being forced to play as Nero in DMC4 and I'm probably going to skip the next game since all those defining traits (and I'm talking about more then just gameplay) will be forgotten and this teen re-invention will show-off his emo-rage.

Gosh, to even jump ahead and defend this upcoming title based on a poorly done commercial without knowing/comparing it to previous titles feels like a half-arsed job.

If you choose to blind yourself and play games just 'cause they're pretty that's for you only, but for others, especially fans of the series DMC4 already showed us how bad a new "star of the show" would be and more so this childish interpretation.

The trailer also seems to hint at the possible storyline of the game. Demonic invasion, Dante is kidnapped and has some powers juiced up in him, he escapes capture and fends of the demons. Possibly meets up with his brother for co-op and there's probably some rich faction involved that wants his powers.

Even more disturbing is that this game has nothing to do with the Devil May Cry boutique, Dante's business in all 4 games. In the 1st game he's already owner of it when his sis jumps in guns blazing, in the 2nd he's "job" is mentioned, the 3rd game shows the start of D.M.C. and the 4th game ends in him at the D.M.C. house getting a call and jumping in action with Trish and that other chick who's name I haven't remembered 'cause of her ...size.

Now what's left is a re-imagination of Kratos from God of War series as a 10year old running around training to be a warrior.

I could probably go on for quite some time but I think I've said quite a bit more then I should. Hope that in the future Capcom gets it's act together and we'll see DMC again.

I don't think he was juiced up... I think he was captured for being a rebellious youth that did some assholish things. It WAS a rehab center for that kind of thing.

I just wanted to say that, because I agree with everything else you mentioned.

Though you must admit, watching a ten year old Kratos killing the way his adult self does would be quite a hoot.

 

[Josh Kurber]

Why did I think this was going to be about the DeLorean Motor Company?

Hah, that would be quite a random event, yes?

"To all those pissed off DMC fans..... the new chevy malibu is a great car."

Yes, I know Chevy Malibu has nothing to do with DeLorean Motor Company xD

 

[Zeromaeus]

Ha, a conversation with my brother today, who is NOT a DMC fan, but has watched me play it a few times, so he gets the general gist of what it's about:

Me: Oh, have you seen the trailer for the new DMC?
Brother: Nope
Me: *starts playing DmC trailer*
Brother: So...this is some psycho-analysis thing?
Me: I guess so
Brother: What are those? Robots or something?
Me: I think they're supposed to be the scarecrows of the previous games
Brother: Okay...what happened to the architecture? It's all...crap-like. I thought DMC was all Gothic and stuff
Me: Yeah, they changed it I guess
Brother: Dante...wait, THAT'S Dante? That can't be right.
Me: Yeah, that's him.
Brother: ...huh.
*trailer finishes*
Brother: So...that's not DMC. Why didn't they just make this a new IP?

To clarify: for a lot of fans, it's not simply just a case of not liking 'Dante's hair being black instead of white'. It's that everything that made up the DMC series seems to be missing, I guess the only relation is that there's a guy who calls himself Dante and fights with two guns. Fans weren't clamouring for a complete reboot of the series, it seems pretty random to do it to one of their more established franchises. If you want something 'new' and 'fresh', and are going to change everything, why not just make this a new IP? The fact that the name 'DMC' has been slapped on this game just seems like some sort of cash-in on the title alone.

THAT SAID, of course I will be playing this game, I'd be a bit silly not to. If they get the combat down like the previous titles, it'll be a great game. A great game, just not DMC.

I'll try to be as respectful as possible when I counter your argument. DMC originates from Capcom. In the same company Megaman is from. My point is:

In each separate series of Megaman the main character is drastically different in certain areas.

MM Classic is Iconic
MM X Mega is older with tweaked armor
MM Z the main character is not, I repeat, Not Megaman
MM ZX the characters are more anime-esque in design and their are multiple protagonists
MM BN the main character is a human boy and an AI program that bears reminiscent armor
MM SF same as above only his partner's an alien and he's a Power Ranger ^.^
MM DASH/Legends the protagonist's armor is only similar in color and bears minimal similarity to the original.

In summary, I really ain't surprised Capcom remade DMC. You shouldn't either. because...

THEY'VE DONE IT BEFORE!

I'd say this is a bit different than the Mega Man continuity. I will point out why.
Mega Man has never really moved far past its original roots. For the first two series, it was always about Mega Man and X. It was only when fans begged to play as Zero did he even become selectable as a playable character. For MMX 4 and 5, Zero's popularity sky-rocketed, which warranted getting him his own series. The art direction was also critically different for Zero's story. This had little bearing on the main MM series, however, because it was a (relatively) short spin-off series (albeit one considered to be canon). Then comes Mega Man ZX, which came with another art change due to a planned anime, that was scrapped in favor of the Mega Man Star Force anime. Mega Man Star Force being the continuation of an earlier spin-off, Mega Man Battle Network (a somewhat RPG-esque series) that was developed alongside the later X and Zero installations. All of these games and the titular Mega Man's appearance never really changed that much except in the spin-off titles. Even in one spin-off, Mega Man DASH/Legends, his appearance remained almost completely unchanged despite being a near-to-completely different character.

Besides, Mega Man has the longevity that dictates some necessary change here and there. Just the two primary series alone now have eighteen titles compared to Devil May Cry's four.

 

[Judgement101]

Let Capcom do what they want. If the game fails it's their own faults. So I shall say this prematurely: R.I.P DMC, Your style and action will be missed. (Cutscenes not so much)

Yes, because your level of clairvoyance is simply astounding and is why you can make such a call. When all we've seen is cgi. Please, tell me when WoW evolves into a nerdy Skynet o' psychic one.

As for the attitude, am I the only one who doesn't need to hear some one-liner just to see that its still a cocky Dante?

No, but apperently you are the only one who overreacts to a post suggesting that a series may die.

And apparently you're the only one who can't recognize a bit of joking sarcasm, and instead write it off as an over-reaction.

You're the one who quoted me and basically insulted my opinion. Also, you clearly haven't the slightest clue at how to use sarcasm jokingly.

 

[Necromancer1991]

Frankly I'd prefer if he resembled his previous incarnations a bit more, I mean his personality fits, he's still a cheeky bastard (who's also a badass). They've released only 3 other games (The 3rd's not even out yet). They made Kung Fu Chaos, which was a game on the original Xbox which was IMO a funny albeit bland 3rd-person brawler/platformer, Heavenly Sword, a bland GoW clone that was one of the PS3's launch titles, Enslaved: Odyssey to the West which look promising but hasn't been released yet so the jury's still out on that one, This isn't so much DMC5 so much as a re-imagining of DMC by a different developer (I due agree his new design is a bit too androgynous for my taste).

 

[Josh Kurber]

As I said in the other thread about this, the change isn't the problem. He looks like a female prison inmate. He doesn't look badass. He's on the border between feminine and masculine, but just leaning enough in the feminine direction to look more like a woman than a man.

For a tough chick, it would look okay, but for a guy, it just looks like the kind of kid who will spend the entire game whining and writing poetry.

Ouch, more "emo kid" stereotypes... I am seeing these everywhere. Not every "emo kid" writes poetry or whines a lot. And not every person who looks like that is emo. It's more of a punk rocker look, if anything.

Fine, the poetry's a joke, but he sure as hell looks like he's going to spend a lot of the game bitching and moaning about some girl he just met or something.

Even if he does end up being a great character in the game, we're discussing his look, and he looks like the most feminine, whiny seventeen-year-old to be a video game protagonist in the history of video games. If he's a badass, this look does not fit his character. It doesn't fit, like Adrian Brody in that recent Predators movie. Like him, the new Dante will just look like a scrawny guy forcing a "tough guy" act, and if Adrian Brody can't look badass, I don't see how this digital Chris Crocker is going to pull it off.

I disagree; I think Vaan, from Final Fantasy 12, looked like the most feminine and whiniest seventeen year old protagonist in video game history.

 

[Necromancer1991]

Here's the trailer

 

[Zeromaeus]

Besides, I wanted to see a DMC 5 that either takes places after 2 or 4. Seriously. Either clip off that cliffhanger or continue on with the bit where Dante, Trish and Lady blast throught the door ready to kick ass.

 

[Josh Kurber]

Besides, I wanted to see a DMC 5 that either takes places after 2 or 4. Seriously. Either clip off that cliffhanger or continue on with the bit where Dante, Trish and Lady blast throught the door ready to kick ass.

I am with you on that one. I've been wondering who the hell was riding the motorcycle in DMC2. It COULD have been Dante, since the games were pretty corny... but then again, it was said the portal closed and he couldn't get out, ever. I mean, Vergil only got out with the help of Mundus.

 

[Zeromaeus]

Besides, I wanted to see a DMC 5 that either takes places after 2 or 4. Seriously. Either clip off that cliffhanger or continue on with the bit where Dante, Trish and Lady blast throught the door ready to kick ass.

I am with you on that one. I've been wondering who the hell was riding the motorcycle in DMC2. It COULD have been Dante, since the games were pretty corny... but then again, it was said the portal closed and he couldn't get out, ever. I mean, Vergil only got out with the help of Mundus.

I see an easy way to fix that too. Something really bad happens. Trish contacts Nero to help get Dante and save the world. You spend the first four or five missions as Nero going to X place to use Yamato to open a gate to hell. During this time you get all the little tutorial stuff out of the way and maybe learn something about his past. Then, for the next five to ten missions, you are Dante in hell. You have to make your way to the gateway Nero opened. Then, the last five to ten mission could be Dante beating the hell out of whatever big bad happens to be threatening the world.
I spent no more than five minutes coming up with this, and honestly I like it.

 

[Dr. wonderful]

*puts arm around OPs shoulders*
Lemme tell you something buddy.

Fans will complain about EVERYTHING.
.

Truerwords have NEVER been spoken.

 

[Josh Kurber]

Besides, I wanted to see a DMC 5 that either takes places after 2 or 4. Seriously. Either clip off that cliffhanger or continue on with the bit where Dante, Trish and Lady blast throught the door ready to kick ass.

I am with you on that one. I've been wondering who the hell was riding the motorcycle in DMC2. It COULD have been Dante, since the games were pretty corny... but then again, it was said the portal closed and he couldn't get out, ever. I mean, Vergil only got out with the help of Mundus.

I see an easy way to fix that too. Something really bad happens. Trish contacts Nero to help get Dante and save the world. You spend the first four or five missions as Nero going to X place to use Yamato to open a gate to hell. During this time you get all the little tutorial stuff out of the way and maybe learn something about his past. Then, for the next five to ten missions, you are Dante in hell. You have to make your way to the gateway Nero opened. Then, the last five to ten mission could be Dante beating the hell out of whatever big bad happens to be threatening the world.
I spent no more than five minutes coming up with this, and honestly I like it.

You know, I do too. But I more expected for the ending of Devil May Cry series to be epic. Main characters dying off in a big war against some of the biggest baddies Dante has fought, like Mundus returning, along with Mundus' father, since Mundus was known as the PRINCE of Darkness, or so I heard in the first game. And all of the Demons pissed off at Sparda return at once to wreak havoc. I expect Nero to have been sneak attacked, thinking he and Kyrie finally found peace, and then Lady would be overwhelmed and killed, of course. Lucia and Trish would die off in some other ways, maybe being taken prisoner, and Dante actually gets HURT for once, instead of God moding everything. I mean, how many times has he been stabbed in the chest? -.-

EDIT: And in the end he gives his life to seal the Demons away once more, just like his father had done, except the seal is more powerful, since he has surpassed his father.

 

[Zeromaeus]

Besides, I wanted to see a DMC 5 that either takes places after 2 or 4. Seriously. Either clip off that cliffhanger or continue on with the bit where Dante, Trish and Lady blast throught the door ready to kick ass.

I am with you on that one. I've been wondering who the hell was riding the motorcycle in DMC2. It COULD have been Dante, since the games were pretty corny... but then again, it was said the portal closed and he couldn't get out, ever. I mean, Vergil only got out with the help of Mundus.

I see an easy way to fix that too. Something really bad happens. Trish contacts Nero to help get Dante and save the world. You spend the first four or five missions as Nero going to X place to use Yamato to open a gate to hell. During this time you get all the little tutorial stuff out of the way and maybe learn something about his past. Then, for the next five to ten missions, you are Dante in hell. You have to make your way to the gateway Nero opened. Then, the last five to ten mission could be Dante beating the hell out of whatever big bad happens to be threatening the world.
I spent no more than five minutes coming up with this, and honestly I like it.

You know, I do too. But I more expected for the ending of Devil May Cry series to be epic. Main characters dying off in a big war against some of the biggest baddies Dante has fought, like Mundus returning, along with Mundus' father, since Mundus was known as the PRINCE of Darkness, or so I heard in the first game. And all of the Demons pissed off at Sparda return at once to wreak havoc. I expect Nero to have been sneak attacked, thinking he and Kyrie finally found peace, and then Lady would be overwhelmed and killed, of course. Lucia and Trish would die off in some other ways, maybe being taken prisoner, and Dante actually gets HURT for once, instead of God moding everything. I mean, how many times has he been stabbed in the chest? -.-

EDIT: And in the end he gives his life to seal the Demons away once more, just like his father had done, except the seal is more powerful, since he has surpassed his father.

Well... Dante has stupid fast healing powers. The fight between him and Deadpool may be the best example I can give of a fight that would never end.
I'm not sure how much I like everyone dying. I mean Kyrie and Lucia can push up as many daisies as they want to, but the rest had better stay.
Wow that sounds really bad seeing as how that was half of the females in the game.
I think the ending would be better with all the heroes together and Dante getting closure, finally accepting his demon-half. Maybe after fighting Vergil one last time in hell.

 

[Josh Kurber]

Besides, I wanted to see a DMC 5 that either takes places after 2 or 4. Seriously. Either clip off that cliffhanger or continue on with the bit where Dante, Trish and Lady blast throught the door ready to kick ass.

I am with you on that one. I've been wondering who the hell was riding the motorcycle in DMC2. It COULD have been Dante, since the games were pretty corny... but then again, it was said the portal closed and he couldn't get out, ever. I mean, Vergil only got out with the help of Mundus.

I see an easy way to fix that too. Something really bad happens. Trish contacts Nero to help get Dante and save the world. You spend the first four or five missions as Nero going to X place to use Yamato to open a gate to hell. During this time you get all the little tutorial stuff out of the way and maybe learn something about his past. Then, for the next five to ten missions, you are Dante in hell. You have to make your way to the gateway Nero opened. Then, the last five to ten mission could be Dante beating the hell out of whatever big bad happens to be threatening the world.
I spent no more than five minutes coming up with this, and honestly I like it.

You know, I do too. But I more expected for the ending of Devil May Cry series to be epic. Main characters dying off in a big war against some of the biggest baddies Dante has fought, like Mundus returning, along with Mundus' father, since Mundus was known as the PRINCE of Darkness, or so I heard in the first game. And all of the Demons pissed off at Sparda return at once to wreak havoc. I expect Nero to have been sneak attacked, thinking he and Kyrie finally found peace, and then Lady would be overwhelmed and killed, of course. Lucia and Trish would die off in some other ways, maybe being taken prisoner, and Dante actually gets HURT for once, instead of God moding everything. I mean, how many times has he been stabbed in the chest? -.-

EDIT: And in the end he gives his life to seal the Demons away once more, just like his father had done, except the seal is more powerful, since he has surpassed his father.

Well... Dante has stupid fast healing powers. The fight between him and Deadpool may be the best example I can give of a fight that would never end.
I'm not sure how much I like everyone dying. I mean Kyrie and Lucia can push up as many daisies as they want to, but the rest had better stay.
Wow that sounds really bad seeing as how that was half of the females in the game.
I think the ending would be better with all the heroes together and Dante getting closure, finally accepting his demon-half. Maybe after fighting Vergil one last time in hell.

I think Vergil accepted his weakness after losing to Dante, and would join a three-way co op with Dante and Nero. Except, Nero wouldn't be able to use DT without Yamato, and I doubt Vergil will accept giving it up to Nero (who may or may not be his son. Remember: half-demons age differently then humans. No one knows Vergil's or Dante's true age.)

 

[Zeromaeus]

Besides, I wanted to see a DMC 5 that either takes places after 2 or 4. Seriously. Either clip off that cliffhanger or continue on with the bit where Dante, Trish and Lady blast throught the door ready to kick ass.

I am with you on that one. I've been wondering who the hell was riding the motorcycle in DMC2. It COULD have been Dante, since the games were pretty corny... but then again, it was said the portal closed and he couldn't get out, ever. I mean, Vergil only got out with the help of Mundus.

I see an easy way to fix that too. Something really bad happens. Trish contacts Nero to help get Dante and save the world. You spend the first four or five missions as Nero going to X place to use Yamato to open a gate to hell. During this time you get all the little tutorial stuff out of the way and maybe learn something about his past. Then, for the next five to ten missions, you are Dante in hell. You have to make your way to the gateway Nero opened. Then, the last five to ten mission could be Dante beating the hell out of whatever big bad happens to be threatening the world.
I spent no more than five minutes coming up with this, and honestly I like it.

You know, I do too. But I more expected for the ending of Devil May Cry series to be epic. Main characters dying off in a big war against some of the biggest baddies Dante has fought, like Mundus returning, along with Mundus' father, since Mundus was known as the PRINCE of Darkness, or so I heard in the first game. And all of the Demons pissed off at Sparda return at once to wreak havoc. I expect Nero to have been sneak attacked, thinking he and Kyrie finally found peace, and then Lady would be overwhelmed and killed, of course. Lucia and Trish would die off in some other ways, maybe being taken prisoner, and Dante actually gets HURT for once, instead of God moding everything. I mean, how many times has he been stabbed in the chest? -.-

EDIT: And in the end he gives his life to seal the Demons away once more, just like his father had done, except the seal is more powerful, since he has surpassed his father.

Well... Dante has stupid fast healing powers. The fight between him and Deadpool may be the best example I can give of a fight that would never end.
I'm not sure how much I like everyone dying. I mean Kyrie and Lucia can push up as many daisies as they want to, but the rest had better stay.
Wow that sounds really bad seeing as how that was half of the females in the game.
I think the ending would be better with all the heroes together and Dante getting closure, finally accepting his demon-half. Maybe after fighting Vergil one last time in hell.

I think Vergil accepted his weakness after losing to Dante, and would join a three-way co op with Dante and Nero. Except, Nero wouldn't be able to use DT without Yamato, and I doubt Vergil will accept giving it up to Nero (who may or may not be his son. Remember: half-demons age differently then humans. No one knows Vergil's or Dante's true age.)

I heard somewhere that Dante was supposed to be eighty or something as of DMC 4. I'm sure Vergil had plenty of time to have a kid and send him off to an orphanage before his big plans.

 

[The Random One]

I thought this thread was about the DeLorean.

 

[enriquetnt]

OH my god is like they make a metal gear and then forced you to play whit a anorexic-emo-kid instead of sna.... oh.. wait THEY ALREADY HAVE!! and everyone knows how that turned out, sure is theyr game, theyr rebootin spin-offing or whatever but that "dante" is hideous and this is coming from someone who actually half-liked Nero in DMC4 and i also like Heavenly Sword so i dont hate Ninja Theory all that much (technically speaking Heavenly Sword was quite remarkable, they must have done something right that they got not one but two big companies backing out theyr new projects and one of them givin them one of theyr biggest franchises to play with)