To the pissed off DMC fans...

[MegaManOfNumbers]

Ha, a conversation with my brother today, who is NOT a DMC fan, but has watched me play it a few times, so he gets the general gist of what it's about:

Me: Oh, have you seen the trailer for the new DMC?
Brother: Nope
Me: *starts playing DmC trailer*
Brother: So...this is some psycho-analysis thing?
Me: I guess so
Brother: What are those? Robots or something?
Me: I think they're supposed to be the scarecrows of the previous games
Brother: Okay...what happened to the architecture? It's all...crap-like. I thought DMC was all Gothic and stuff
Me: Yeah, they changed it I guess
Brother: Dante...wait, THAT'S Dante? That can't be right.
Me: Yeah, that's him.
Brother: ...huh.
*trailer finishes*
Brother: So...that's not DMC. Why didn't they just make this a new IP?

To clarify: for a lot of fans, it's not simply just a case of not liking 'Dante's hair being black instead of white'. It's that everything that made up the DMC series seems to be missing, I guess the only relation is that there's a guy who calls himself Dante and fights with two guns. Fans weren't clamouring for a complete reboot of the series, it seems pretty random to do it to one of their more established franchises. If you want something 'new' and 'fresh', and are going to change everything, why not just make this a new IP? The fact that the name 'DMC' has been slapped on this game just seems like some sort of cash-in on the title alone.

THAT SAID, of course I will be playing this game, I'd be a bit silly not to. If they get the combat down like the previous titles, it'll be a great game. A great game, just not DMC.

I'll try to be as respectful as possible when I counter your argument. DMC originates from Capcom. In the same company Megaman is from. My point is:

In each separate series of Megaman the main character is drastically different in certain areas.

MM Classic is Iconic
MM X Mega is older with tweaked armor
MM Z the main character is not, I repeat, Not Megaman
MM ZX the characters are more anime-esque in design and their are multiple protagonists
MM BN the main character is a human boy and an AI program that bears reminiscent armor
MM SF same as above only his partner's an alien and he's a Power Ranger ^.^
MM DASH/Legends the protagonist's armor is only similar in color and bears minimal similarity to the original.

In summary, I really ain't surprised Capcom remade DMC. You shouldn't either. because...

THEY'VE DONE IT BEFORE!

 

[technoted]

I'm not going to like it, the thing I liked about DMC in the first place was Dante, I hated when I didn't play as Dante and the new Dante just looks terrible.

 

[Lyri]

Alright, I knoew you are all so very pissed off about Dante's new look and the game, and everything. But the game hasn't come out yet, so please don't knock it.

And don't yell at me for not being a fan, because I'm a major DMC fanatic: I have all the books, beaten DMD mode on all games but 4, and watch the anime all the time. I spent many days looking for DMC5 info, and at first, I was very saddened and upset about the change, but looking at it now, it's not so bad.

It may be because I am into the whole punk look, or because I was beginning to lose a little love for Dante when they kicked him out of the spotlight in four and made him seem like a mentor and random add-in.

I like this new, hard ass, punky Dante. And until I have played the game I refuse to ***** and whine and beg for the old Dante back, because I have seen people do this only to look like idiots when they enjoy the game. I am only saying that this game looks cool, and at least they kept Dante's bad assedness. They could have made him a pussy that didn't know how to use a bread knife, let alone a morphing sword.

Plus, change wasn't so bad: They obviously ran out of ideas. They weren't even taking thigns from Dante's Inferno (the 700 year old book, not the game) anymore. They were pulling shit out of their asses now. So this new thing may be just what Devil May Cry needed.

EDIT: I added the Dante's Inferno thing, because it was the basis for many of the characters and ideas for the original Devil May Cry games.

Look internet, it's opposite opinion guy.

The one man whom feels it is his duty to single his own opinion out from the crowds of other like minded individuals and tell you to cool off based upon his own reasoning.

Opposite opinion guy, we salute you.

 

[Syphous]

I'm not going to like it, the thing I liked about DMC in the first place was Dante, I hated when I didn't play as Dante and the new Dante just looks terrible.

Exactly. That's what I hated about DMC4, Nero was not Dante. So... why would I play a DMC where Dante is not Dante? This is, of course, my personal opinion.

 

[Outright Villainy]

Well, what did you expect? [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheyChangedItNowItSucks][footnote]Yes, I am an evil bastard.[/footnote]

I'm no big DMC fan, so this is just sailing over my head. I do think it's funny that everyone is focusing on the look, and not the fact that it's a different team making their game. I thought that detail would be more worrying than a few polygons, but hey, what do I know?

 

[Laughing Phoenix]

Look, I don't mind that he looks different than the old Dante (in fact, I think he looks a little sexier.) I don't mind that he looks significantly weaker than the old Dante (I mean, Dante stopped by handcuffs? c'mon.)

What does disappoint me is that he looks so generic! Despite what the old timers say, I liked that Dante got more and more ridiculous and overblown. This seems like a trip back to square one. What's separating this Dante from the throngs of other generic action game heroes out there with similarly amorphous auras of anger?

Still, I withhold judgment. Gameplay is king, and I know zero about that right now, so there's nothing for me to go on.

 

[Josh Kurber]

Look, I don't mind that he looks different than the old Dante (in fact, I think he looks a little sexier.) I don't mind that he looks significantly weaker than the old Dante (I mean, Dante stopped by handcuffs? c'mon.)

What does disappoint me is that he looks so generic! Despite what the old timers say, I liked that Dante got more and more ridiculous and overblown. This seems like a trip back to square one. What's separating this Dante from the throngs of other generic action game heroes out there with similarly amorphous auras of anger?

Still, I withhold judgment. Gameplay is king, and I know zero about that right now, so there's nothing for me to go on.

He is kind of sexier

But, like Cole from inFamous, he isn't even a real hero. He doesn't do stuff because he wants to save people. Usually for money or for the fuck of it (or so I tend to see it being as) Plus, you don't see many punky protagonists nowadays. Mostly pretty boys with muscles and being voiced by Nolan North. xD

EDIT: I also forgot to input that neither he, nor Cole (which is why I originally mentioned him) are "pretty boys" per se. Just like Yahtzee's review of God of War 3 covered.

 

[Eduku]

It is being developed by Capcom, just a different company, or whatever.

For clarification, the game is being developed by Ninja Theory, but three people from Capcom will helping and overlooking development of the game.

I asked one of the devs, and they said:

It is a deeply collaborative effort, with character designers, systems designers, production designers on both sides having input into everything. There is nothing going into the game that Itsuno, Echiro and Inafune himself haven't put their mark on.

 

[Beryl77]

I don't complain about the game (yet) because we haven't seen anything about it and I think the game will be alright (hope so at least). I know they wanted to give the game series a fresh touch But to change the appearance of the main character completely is overdoing it. I'm not saying that he looks stupid but it's just not Dante anymore.
I'm sure I'll buy this game but I'll just pretend that this is Dante's son.

 

[Josh Kurber]

It is being developed by Capcom, just a different company, or whatever.

For clarification, the game is being developed by Ninja Theory, but three people from Capcom will helping and overlooking development of the game.

I asked one of the devs, and they said:

It is a deeply collaborative effort, with character designers, systems designers, production designers on both sides having input into everything. There is nothing going into the game that Itsuno, Echiro and Inafune himself haven't put their mark on.

Ohhh, alright. Thank you for correcting me, honestly. I knew I had something wrong.

 

[Zeromaeus]

Wow, so this is the project lead of DMC.

-cough-cough-

 

[Josh Kurber]

As I said in the other thread about this, the change isn't the problem. He looks like a female prison inmate. He doesn't look badass. He's on the border between feminine and masculine, but just leaning enough in the feminine direction to look more like a woman than a man.

For a tough chick, it would look okay, but for a guy, it just looks like the kind of kid who will spend the entire game whining and writing poetry.

Ouch, more "emo kid" stereotypes... I am seeing these everywhere. Not every "emo kid" writes poetry or whines a lot. And not every person who looks like that is emo. It's more of a punk rocker look, if anything.

 

[VincentX3]

Wow, so this is the project lead of DMC.

-cough-cough-

You serious?
I would so bomb that guy with a satiate if THATS the reason they killed off Dante's looks.

 

[Chancie]

To clarify: for a lot of fans, it's not simply just a case of not liking 'Dante's hair being black instead of white'. It's that everything that made up the DMC series seems to be missing, I guess the only relation is that there's a guy who calls himself Dante and fights with two guns. Fans weren't clamouring for a complete reboot of the series, it seems pretty random to do it to one of their more established franchises. If you want something 'new' and 'fresh', and are going to change everything, why not just make this a new IP? The fact that the name 'DMC' has been slapped on this game just seems like some sort of cash-in on the title alone.

Thank you. This is exactly it. They can call it Devil May Cry all they want, but to any fan that's played DMC, it's not DMC. They took out everything that made it DMC. Now, it's just...some other game...with DMC-like gameplay.
And sure, the gameplay can be fun, but what also made the series what it was was the characters and the story (which wasn't fantastic but humor me here). They took both of those things away, which the fans already loved. I know that's what I'm angry about. Fans never wanted a reboot, the series didn't need a reboot (DMC4 left so many loose ends with Nero), so why give us one?

I know that, as of now, I have no plans on playing it. Unless Capcom can miraculously win me over and tie this back to the old DMC games to give it relevance, I'm not convinced. Nothing in the trailer looked good to me. "Dante" looks terrible. There was absolutely nothing appealing to me in the trailer.
Same gameplay or not, I don't really care. The characters and story made Devil May Cry what it is. If I want to play something that has gameplay like it, there's a billion options. Bayonetta, Darksiders, etc. So, I'm not going to sit through a DMC game that's basically stripped of everything that's truly DMC just for the gameplay. I can find that in a bunch of other games; I don't need to suffer through a "reboot."

 

[Josh Kurber]

To clarify: for a lot of fans, it's not simply just a case of not liking 'Dante's hair being black instead of white'. It's that everything that made up the DMC series seems to be missing, I guess the only relation is that there's a guy who calls himself Dante and fights with two guns. Fans weren't clamouring for a complete reboot of the series, it seems pretty random to do it to one of their more established franchises. If you want something 'new' and 'fresh', and are going to change everything, why not just make this a new IP? The fact that the name 'DMC' has been slapped on this game just seems like some sort of cash-in on the title alone.

Thank you. This is exactly it. They can call it Devil May Cry all they want, but to any fan that's played DMC, it's not DMC. They took out everything that made it DMC. Now, it's just...some other game...with DMC-like gameplay.
And sure, the gameplay can be fun, but what also made the series what it was was the characters and the story (which wasn't fantastic but humor me here). They took both of those things away, which the fans already loved. I know that's what I'm angry about. Fans never wanted a reboot, the series didn't need a reboot (DMC4 left so many loose ends with Nero), so why give us one?

I know that, as of now, I have no plans on playing it. Unless Capcom can miraculously win me over and tie this back to the old DMC games to give it relevance, I'm not convinced. Nothing in the trailer looked good to me. "Dante" looks terrible. There was absolutely nothing appealing to me in the trailer.
Same gameplay or not, I don't really care. The characters and story made Devil May Cry what it is. If I want to play something that has gameplay like it, there's a billion options. Bayonetta, Darksiders, etc. So, I'm not going to sit through a DMC game that's basically stripped of everything that's truly DMC just for the gameplay. I can find that in a bunch of other games; I don't need to suffer through a "reboot."

I know this is completely off-topic but it warms my heart to see someone else that enjoys Drakengard enough to put Caim as their avatar

Unless it's there for a different reason... then I apologize lol

 

[Itsmemario]

An unjust end to a brilliant series of over-the-top fluent story driven action made by a franchise reboot that was not wanted.

Whatever the future holds for this title and the possible sequels it may have I for once will remember the days when DMC was actually entertaining, new and had as much impact on the gaming community as the God of War series.

It's a darn shame what they did to him, I was really looking forward to see the story pick up where they left on in the 4th game, what call would Dante and "the team" would listen and what troubles would they get themselves into.

I already disliked being forced to play as Nero in DMC4 and I'm probably going to skip the next game since all those defining traits (and I'm talking about more then just gameplay) will be forgotten and this teen re-invention will show-off his emo-rage.

Gosh, to even jump ahead and defend this upcoming title based on a poorly done commercial without knowing/comparing it to previous titles feels like a half-arsed job.

If you choose to blind yourself and play games just 'cause they're pretty that's for you only, but for others, especially fans of the series DMC4 already showed us how bad a new "star of the show" would be and more so this childish interpretation.

The trailer also seems to hint at the possible storyline of the game. Demonic invasion, Dante is kidnapped and has some powers juiced up in him, he escapes capture and fends of the demons. Possibly meets up with his brother for co-op and there's probably some rich faction involved that wants his powers.

Even more disturbing is that this game has nothing to do with the Devil May Cry boutique, Dante's business in all 4 games. In the 1st game he's already owner of it when his sis jumps in guns blazing, in the 2nd he's "job" is mentioned, the 3rd game shows the start of D.M.C. and the 4th game ends in him at the D.M.C. house getting a call and jumping in action with Trish and that other chick who's name I haven't remembered 'cause of her ...size.

Now what's left is a re-imagination of Kratos from God of War series as a 10year old running around training to be a warrior.

I could probably go on for quite some time but I think I've said quite a bit more then I should. Hope that in the future Capcom gets it's act together and we'll see DMC again.

 

[Josh Kurber]

Wow, so this is the project lead of DMC.

-cough-cough-

You serious?
I would so bomb that guy with a satiate if THATS the reason they killed off Dante's looks.

Vinny!

And yeah, that's... odd... Dante looks much hotter than the project lead, if that is him.

 

[Judgement101]

Let Capcom do what they want. If the game fails it's their own faults. So I shall say this prematurely: R.I.P DMC, Your style and action will be missed. (Cutscenes not so much)

Yes, because your level of clairvoyance is simply astounding and is why you can make such a call. When all we've seen is cgi. Please, tell me when WoW evolves into a nerdy Skynet o' psychic one.

As for the attitude, am I the only one who doesn't need to hear some one-liner just to see that its still a cocky Dante?

No, but apperently you are the only one who overreacts to a post suggesting that a series may die.