Today's Biggest Musicicans....WHO's OVERRATED?

[Doom-Slayer]

*puts on anti-conformist hat* Everything mainstream..boom. But seriously, most pop and rap since there's very little 'technical' difference between the songs which is what I would use to call musicians great.

 

[funguy2121]

Bayby baby baby ooh! (Nuff said)

No, not Nuff said. You do realize that such vocal embellishments have been around since before your grandparents got it on, don't you? What song is "Baybe baby by ooh!?"

 

[nbamaniac]

Rebecca Black is overrated.

 

[Hatchet90]

Speaking as a musician, I feel like ever since the concept of marketing was invented, "popular" music has always been awful and the worst bands usually prevail in their time and then are forgotten in favor of other, much better musicians from the time. I honestly don't think that it's even ABOUT the music nowadays, the general public pretty much bases their like or dislike of an "artist" on how they're marketed and how they present themselves, their looks/personality/actions/perhaps their "cause" if they take up charity or advocate for something, rather than the actual content of their music. Literally everything upwards of 95 percent of modern pop "artists" has been done before, and the Grammys are famously a bigger joke than any other big awards show, the Oscars don't hold a candle to the type of bullshit the Grammys have pulled. Short answer, if a person has made millions off their music, they probably didn't really make it off the music. Lady Gaga is not rich as fuck because her music is good, she is rich because she's marketed extremely well to a very large demographic, namely fucktards and people who like to dance. Girls don't go nuts for Bieber because his music is good, they love him because he's attractive (to them). Look at how quickly the public turns against an artist when they take a big enough PR misstep. In the circles I come from, where people are primarily concerned with the music that's being made, no one gives two shits about anything about someone except how they play. It's almost impossible to be a big enough asshole that people stop liking your music if you're playing well enough. You could look like the mutant from 300 and greet people with the phrase "I fucked your dad" and while people would say "man, what an asshole," if you played beautiful music, they'd listen. Not the case with pop.

All cussing aside, you're right. Ever since the invention of MTV (which I believe was the final nail in the coffin when it comes to real talent in popular music), people no longer give a crap about what their listening to. It's all about the image and keeping a clean slate on Entertainment Tonight.

 

[Iron Lightning]

Phillip Glass, I fucking hate minimalists. They write songs that literally consist of just one meter repeated. They don't even try to disguise their repetitiveness by putting lyrics on top like most modern pop music.

Fuck, even baroque-era operas change their lines after four or five repetitions. Minimalists are almost as lazy as the most terrible modern artists who consider a blank canvas to be art. Sure, some minimalists try to get fancy with their phases and evolving scores, but they aren't fooling anyone.

I also don't get people who enjoy minimalist music. They're not the same sort of people who go to a concert to see a chamber orchestra (i.e. cheapskates and/or idiots.) They're the sort of people who are too damn lazy or dull-minded to appreciate music with even the slightest degree of complexity.

Edit: Thank fuck Igor Stravinsky came around about the same time and showed us how it's done:
No one digs textural variety anymore.

 

[funguy2121]

Absolutely everyone ever.

If you have ever picked up an instrument or sung a note then you are grossly overrated.

Also, I am so non-mainstream that the only music I listen to is recordings of rivers and thunderstorms.

So there.

Rivers and Thunderstorms used to be good, but now everyone's heard of them...especially rivers. You could almost say that they became

Spoiler

mainstream

I prefer Slight Seismic Rumblings with Undertones of Aquatic Doom.
Apparently they're really big in Japan at the moment.

See what you made me do there?

Yes mods, it is relevant. Tom Waits is ALWAYS relevant.

 

[JC175]

Well, today's popular music scene is just plain terrible.

I stopped reading there.

You've gotta keep in mind that an era is remembered for the good tunes, not the bad. Sure, the Beatles and the Rolling Stones were all over the place in the 60's, but artists like Jimi Hendrix, Iggy Pop, Rush, Public Enemy, and Gorillaz - know what they had in common? They all only ever had one song break into the top 20. Hell, Bob Marley, the Smiths, Daft Punk, the Ramones and Sublime (plus others) never had a song break the top 20. The point I'm making here is that artists that have withstood the test of time are often not those with any real massive chart success.

Your profile says that you're 19 - keep in mind here that you're only seeing the best of the musical past. The charts have always been shit, you just haven't realised it yet. For example, here's a few songs that hit number one from the 70's and 80's:


Moral of the story - you've got at least another 15 years before you can call today's music scene "plain terrible".

 

[AgDr_ODST]

Lemme tell you first who In my humble opinion is extremely underrated: The Lonely Island, Cee-Lo Green Tenacious D, Within Temptation,Elena [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tycEDJTtF3w&feature=related] Si [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOedLNedhm4]eg [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAUOpUsR7ME]man [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dhRqP2jR6g], Playing For Change [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us-TVg40ExM]

as for who's overrated......Ke$ha, Lady Gaga, Lil Wayne are the first three who come to mind when I think of overrated artists

 

[thelaughingman]

Two words: Lady. Gaga. People say she's "original" or "risky" but as far as I'm concerned she's and E.M.I approved corporate whore.

 

[funguy2121]

as it seems to take around at least 20 years to find out we aren't really in a position to say.

Sorry, but I think this is bullshit. I have tastes now, and I don't need the advantage of hindsight to appraise the artistic merit of something vs. insipid trend-hopping.

Fatboy Slim is fucking in heaven. Fucking in fucking fucking in...

 

[funguy2121]

How the hell did you fix a coke-can to the top of your head?

Ask Devo.

Also, something-something so I don't get into trouble for a low-content post.

 

[funguy2121]

Phillip Glass, I fucking hate minimalists. They write songs that literally consist of just one meter repeated. They don't even try to disguise their repetitiveness by putting lyrics on top like most modern pop music.

Fuck, even baroque-era operas change their lines after four or five repetitions. Minimalists are almost as lazy as the most terrible modern artists who consider a blank canvas to be art. Sure, some minimalists try to get fancy with their phases and evolving scores, but they aren't fooling anyone.

I also don't get people who enjoy minimalist music. They're not the same sort of people who go to a concert to see a chamber orchestra (i.e. cheapskates and/or idiots.) They're the sort of people who are too damn lazy or dull-minded to appreciate music with even the slightest degree of complexity.

Edit: Thank fuck Igor Stravinsky came around about the same time and showed us how it's done:
No one digs textural variety anymore.

Here's to "classical" music starting riots!

 

[mysecondlife]

Katy Perry and Taylor Swift comes to my mind.

Also those rap songs sung by popular rapper that features one or more of other popular artist. (can't they write/sing their own songs by themselves anymore?)

I also thought Arcade Fire's recent album, "The Suburbs", was overrated (why was this level of praise not bestowed upon "Funeral", an album that was actually brilliant and worthy of album of the year)

From what I've seen (while browsing the web, magazines, etc), The Suburbs falls short of appraisal compared to The Funeral. So The Suburbs being over-rated is quite unexpected to me.

While I agree that The Suburbs is not as stellar as The Funeral, I still say it's heck of an album.

 

[Tax_Document]

Anything before 2000.

Soppy piles of steaming dog faeces bunged up in a broken sewage pipe.


Oh and Rap, and Screamo, junk.

 

[Wintermoot]

allot of musician that are probably already named (Lady Gaga,Bieber,Disney,s fabricated stars,Willow Smith etc.)

 

[Iron Lightning]

Phillip Glass, I fucking hate minimalists. They write songs that literally consist of just one meter repeated. They don't even try to disguise their repetitiveness by putting lyrics on top like most modern pop music.

Fuck, even baroque-era operas change their lines after four or five repetitions. Minimalists are almost as lazy as the most terrible modern artists who consider a blank canvas to be art. Sure, some minimalists try to get fancy with their phases and evolving scores, but they aren't fooling anyone.

I also don't get people who enjoy minimalist music. They're not the same sort of people who go to a concert to see a chamber orchestra (i.e. cheapskates and/or idiots.) They're the sort of people who are too damn lazy or dull-minded to appreciate music with even the slightest degree of complexity.

Edit: Thank fuck Igor Stravinsky came around about the same time and showed us how it's done:
No one digs textural variety anymore.

Here's to "classical" music starting riots!

Hells yeah, the premiere of the The Right of Spring started a riot in ten seconds flat. I'm pretty sure even Marilyn Manson has never been able to shock an audience that quickly. Now that's what I call fucking hardcore.

 

[The_Echo]

Except for The Beatles. They are the greatest band of all time. Period.

Are you kidding me right ow? They are beyond overrated. I've listened to the Beatles. And I've tried to like them, I really have.

But they're just. So. Bad.

Anyway, pretty much everything popular now is quite overrated. /cliché

 

[ChupathingyX]

Elena [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tycEDJTtF3w&feature=related] Si [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOedLNedhm4]eg [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAUOpUsR7ME]man [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dhRqP2jR6g]

Why does everyone always give all credit to Elena Siegman for Zombie songs? What about Kevin Sherwood, he wrote all of the songs and performed all instruments, he deserves just as much credit.