Total War Countdown/ UPDATE: Shogun 2 confirmed!

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Superlordbasil

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is there gonna be a remake its gonna be shogun i hope would have though other suitable eras would around the 30 years war for its nice mix of gunpowder coming into use but still a large emphasize on hand weapons or the period between the fall of Rome and the middle ages for its pure chaos factor.
 

Davrel

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I really want Rome2; the first one was pretty awesome and a remake with current gen graphics and all the new features would be delicious; I'd certainly buy that unlike Napoleon TW...
 

Jandau

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666Chaos said:
I would like it to be either shogun 2 or ghengis khan but im sure their is also alot of really interesting wars that we havnt thought of.
Jandau said:
It's Shogun 2! [http://kotaku.com/5549952/total-war-ditches-gunpowder-returns-to-japan] :)
 

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TheRightToArmBears said:
Jandau said:
HK_01 said:
It's Shogun 2! [http://kotaku.com/5549952/total-war-ditches-gunpowder-returns-to-japan] :)
Hmmm... that's not particluarly conclusive. It might just be moving away from gunpowder again, it's still wide open.
There's also this. [http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/05/28/son-of-a-shogun-shogun-2-total-war/#more-31053]
 

HK_01

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Jandau said:
HK_01 said:
It's Shogun 2! [http://kotaku.com/5549952/total-war-ditches-gunpowder-returns-to-japan] :)
Sorry to disappoint you but on the official forums they(an admin) called that Turkish website an obvious fake.


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"Guys, speculate to your hearts content but please do not attempt to derail this thread by posting links to what is clearly fictitious and unsubstantiated information, I will not be giving out any more warnings on this point.

Anyone who posts such information or links to it from this moment on will receive 1 day bans.

Thank you."

That's exactly what he said.

Source:
http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/topic/71479/t/It-s-the-final-countdown.html?page=32
 

Nunny

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I would like to see a proper full world version, complete with the ability to play all factions from Major Powers to small island tribes. Also with a time scale that doesnt go fowards one bloody year every turn...
 

HK_01

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Nunny said:
I would like to see a proper full world version, complete with the ability to play all factions from Major Powers to small island tribes. Also with a time scale that doesnt go fowards one bloody year every turn...
That might be...hard to do.
 

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Jandau said:
666Chaos said:
I would like it to be either shogun 2 or ghengis khan but im sure their is also alot of really interesting wars that we havnt thought of.
Jandau said:
It's Shogun 2! [http://kotaku.com/5549952/total-war-ditches-gunpowder-returns-to-japan] :)
I hated seeing this comment:

[quote/]No gunpowder, no care tbh[/quote]

I can understand someone enjoying Empire's combat more than say, Rome's, but I can't see why someone would actually DISLIKE and then decide on his avoidance of the game based on the lack of guns: The games had four games and many expansions with guns being almost not even an afterthought. It makes me sad to see that kind of thing.
 

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HK_01 said:
Nunny said:
I would like to see a proper full world version, complete with the ability to play all factions from Major Powers to small island tribes. Also with a time scale that doesnt go fowards one bloody year every turn...
That might be...hard to do.
The harder it is to make something, the more reward when it is done.
 

Plurralbles

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Nunny said:
HK_01 said:
Nunny said:
I would like to see a proper full world version, complete with the ability to play all factions from Major Powers to small island tribes. Also with a time scale that doesnt go fowards one bloody year every turn...
That might be...hard to do.
The harder it is to make something, the more reward when it is done.
but CA is shit when it comes to campaign and battlefield AI...
 

HK_01

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Plurralbles said:
Nunny said:
HK_01 said:
Nunny said:
I would like to see a proper full world version, complete with the ability to play all factions from Major Powers to small island tribes. Also with a time scale that doesnt go fowards one bloody year every turn...
That might be...hard to do.
The harder it is to make something, the more reward when it is done.
but CA is shit when it comes to campaign and battlefield AI...
They have made some serious improvements to the campaign AI from Medieval II to Empire. At least in Empire they didn't attack you for no reason anymore(usually anyway, it was funny to see Georgia declare war on my Russian Empire that had crushed the Ottomans and Swedes).
 

Jandau

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HK_01 said:
At least in Empire they didn't attack you for no reason anymore
Yes, they did. A lot. And it made even less sense than in Medieval. Any Ottoman game I started, I wound up getting attacked by the British, for no reason at all. I never held any teritorries that they needed, I had good relations with them. Same in my Russian games. Also, trusted allies would attack me without provocation all the time. At least in Medieval 2 I could tell who was going to attack me. At least the AI in Medieval 2 was capable of laying a proper siege and not piss all over itself...

And as for the whole "unsubstantiated rumor" thing, I just linked an article on Kotaku, which is basically one of the biggest games news sites. There's also the Rock Paper Shotgun article linked a few posts earlier and that is also a fairly trusted news site.

Sure, it's rumors, but at least it's something. I'm guessing you're just sore you didn't get the time period you wanted... ;)
 

HK_01

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Jandau said:
HK_01 said:
At least in Empire they didn't attack you for no reason anymore
Yes, they did. A lot. And it made even less sense than in Medieval. Any Ottoman game I started, I wound up getting attacked by the British, for no reason at all. I never held any teritorries that they needed, I had good relations with them. Same in my Russian games. Also, trusted allies would attack me without provocation all the time. At least in Medieval 2 I could tell who was going to attack me. At least the AI in Medieval 2 was capable of laying a proper siege and not piss all over itself...

And as for the whole "unsubstantiated rumor" thing, I just linked an article on Kotaku, which is basically one of the biggest games news sites. There's also the Rock Paper Shotgun article linked a few posts earlier and that is also a fairly trusted news site.

Sure, it's rumors, but at least it's something. I'm guessing you're just sore you didn't get the time period you wanted... ;)
The Kotaku article was based off the rumors from that Turkish website. Not sure about the RockPaperShotgun one.

About Empire, such things didn't really happen to me. Maybe because I bought the game when it was already out for almost a year and fixed with patches?
 

Jandau

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HK_01 said:
About Empire, such things didn't really happen to me. Maybe because I bought the game when it was already out for almost a year and fixed with patches?
I played the game a few months ago, fully patched. AI was batshit crazy and utterly retarded, both on and off the battlefield. One of the biggest dealbreakers for the game. Napoleon was just as bad.
 

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Jandau said:
HK_01 said:
About Empire, such things didn't really happen to me. Maybe because I bought the game when it was already out for almost a year and fixed with patches?
I played the game a few months ago, fully patched. AI was batshit crazy and utterly retarded, both on and off the battlefield. One of the biggest dealbreakers for the game. Napoleon was just as bad.
Huh, that's weird. Maybe I'm just lucky. My Allies usually stayed Allies and only countries I had bad relations with declared war on me. Once I became incredibly powerful they'd try to stay out of war with me even if the relations sucked.

BTW, the hourglass is at 1744 now. It's weird, it seems like the rate at which it counts back slows down.
 

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It's nice to know they're going back in time. Empire and Napoleon did a very poor job of having the same atmosphere as the previous games. No spear walls, no flaming clouds of arrows; they didn't feel like TW games. So, whatever it is, I'm looking forward to it.
 

HK_01

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Seems like it will be Shogun 2 after all. My most trusted game-website/magazine believes it too now....

Edit: This makes me sad, by the way. As much as I love TW, Japan is a setting I am just so not interested in. There's still a chance this is all just fake and we'll get something else though. I'll remain hopeful.