"Twists" that just don't make sense
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I think we were talking about different parts of the movie, and there was no point in which the characters could die, the danger was being forced to spend a large amount of "years" inside your own mind.ayuri said:
It's one thing to provide a twist; it's another to make it seem plausible.
Good example:
Bad example:
Good example:
Disgaea. A character re-named "Midboss" by the main character turns out to be the main character's father. It may seem over done, but the delivery was spectacular. It doesn't seem too far out, either.
Bad example:
Chrono Cross. The game is so over complicated due to twists, it can literally be described as Echer. Metal Gear may have been bad, but Chrono Cross takes the cake. A futuristic city sent back in time to counter the appearance of a prehistoric city sent forwards. Lavos divided into six dragons, which helped you a great deal beforehand. Alternate realities. Three children which suspiciously look like the characters from Chrono Trigger giving out story explanations. Mind you, Chrono Cross isn't a BAD game, but you need a few things to get through the story, including a textbook or two and a college professor.
ultrachicken said:
That's why he killed him, yes, but it was in fact Shelby who called the cops. The writing seems especially cheap when you read Shelby's thoughts after he kills him and they're something like, "It's been a while since that guy went into the back. I should go check on him."
But then again, that movie was nonsense from beginning to end, so that silly twist matches the overall tone perfectly. And it didn't exactly come out of nowhere, becauseayuri said:
we see the police investigating the historian's murder all through the movie.
OT: I was going to mention the ending of Lost, but it wasn't really nonsensical, only unsatisfying.
They kind of went for that old "they are all in the afterlife" cliché, even if only to explain the supposedly "alternate" timeline. I found that explanation unsatisfying because it wasn't related to the unique properties of the island; it is something that apparently happens to everyone after they die, not only to those special people.
Other than that, I think I don't have a legitimate example in mind right now...
Edit: added some spoilers to the Monty Python paragraph.
bioshock,was a great powerful moment that made absolutly no sense when you acualy stop and think about it.
I need scissors, mother fucker.Fawful said:
Anyways, twists that make no sense? The "good" ending of Dawn of the New World.
Okay, so there's a few spoilers for the original Tales of Symphonia here, but here's what happens: in ToS, they establish that mana is completely fucking essential to all life. So, naturally, in that glorified fanfic of a sequel, they remove all mana from the planet to stop the evil demon thingies from getting out to the planet and also redirect all of the ubertree's infinite mana into the gate and only the gate, rendering all of the work you did in the first game completely fucking pointless.
Jeebzus, I haven't played that game in nearly a year, and I'm still on about how much it sucked.
You know, I think the only good sequels I've ever seen is the Back to the Future series, and possibly Gundam's Universal Century as well. I'm not sure about the new Gundam Unicorn[footnote]STOP FUCKING LAUGHING IT WILL EAT OUR SOULS [http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/unicorn/rx-0.htm][/footnote], since I haven't seen it yet and probably won't for a while.
Oh, and Disgaea.
Disgaea 2 >>>>>>>>> 98% of all other JRPGs
Read Dan Brown's The Lost Symbol just recently. The ending pretty much makes the whole foregoing 600 pages unnecessary.
Seriously? People allowed themselves to be tortured and arrested and allowed others to be murdered and nearly murdered to protect the secret that is THE FUCKING BIBLE?
The entire movie is spent with George Cloony's character being followed by who he suspects are agents for the government, turns out his wife is trying to file for divorce and hired a private investigator to see if he can find anything incriminating about Cloony.
Brad Pitt's character finds a disc containing a retired government official's bank accounts that his wife is using to take all his money in the divorce, and thinks that it is some super secret information drop by the CIA. While trying to find additional information to sell to the Russian Embassy, he is killed by George Cloony, who still believes he is being tailed by the CIA/FBI and assumes him to be a spy (this is in the middle of the movie).
The CIA is actually monitoring Brad Pitt and George Cloony, as well as the man whose bank information is unwittingly stolen by Brad Pitt. The CIA is actually trying to make sense of it all and the movie ends with them all confused as to what happened. The ironic twist is that the entire movie is spent with the main characters thinking that they are being watched by the CIA and are doing some sinister shit, only for them to not have any clue as to what the hell is going on, similarly to me trying to make sense of this (funny) movie.
Brad Pitt's character finds a disc containing a retired government official's bank accounts that his wife is using to take all his money in the divorce, and thinks that it is some super secret information drop by the CIA. While trying to find additional information to sell to the Russian Embassy, he is killed by George Cloony, who still believes he is being tailed by the CIA/FBI and assumes him to be a spy (this is in the middle of the movie).
The CIA is actually monitoring Brad Pitt and George Cloony, as well as the man whose bank information is unwittingly stolen by Brad Pitt. The CIA is actually trying to make sense of it all and the movie ends with them all confused as to what happened. The ironic twist is that the entire movie is spent with the main characters thinking that they are being watched by the CIA and are doing some sinister shit, only for them to not have any clue as to what the hell is going on, similarly to me trying to make sense of this (funny) movie.
ayuri said:
She's not actually there, she's just a figment of Cobb's subconscious. She killed herself in RL because she thought she was in a dream because of the idea Cobb planted in her mind. Cobb continues to see her in his dreams because of his guilt.
ayuri said:
Who says they didn't have the drug then? As far as i can tell, that's just left unexplained. It was before the events of the film take place. They shouldn't have to explain everything. The film functions perfectly well without telling you why they were in limbo back then. Fill in the gaps for yourself - Previous mission, things went wrong, stuck in limbo.
Magicman10893 said:
I think the whole nonsensical thing is pretty much the entire point of the film. It's what made it so hilarious for me, anyway.
I loved that movie. I've been wanting to write a spoof on the spy thriller and they beat me to it.Magicman10893 said:
A picture is worth a thousand words.
Anyone who understands this knows what I mean. If not, look up Bionic Commando Plot Twist. It takes the cake for "Wait... what?"
Also, I saw Silent Hill: Homecoming's plot twist coming (or HOMEcoming hahahahaha... ah that was lame) from 30 fog drenched miles away.
Anyone who understands this knows what I mean. If not, look up Bionic Commando Plot Twist. It takes the cake for "Wait... what?"
Also, I saw Silent Hill: Homecoming's plot twist coming (or HOMEcoming hahahahaha... ah that was lame) from 30 fog drenched miles away.