Two gay men kicked out of a pub for kissing in public

[Dags90]

Yeah, people making out is pretty much the norm at a bar.

But obviously these two were just looking for attention, as is suggested in every thread about LGBT discrimination brought up on this forum. You know, because homophobia is totally done in the UK. That guy a few years ago beat himself to death for the attention. Damn attention whoring gays and their "OMG HOMOPHOBIA", as if it actually exists. Madness!

 

[AmrasCalmacil]

personally I think two men making out is disgusting, and the bar owner was right for kicking them out, but that's just my opinion

And would you think the bar owner was right if he'd kicked out a guy and a girl kissing?

 

[AstylahAthrys]

I'm only okay with this if the pub owner would have, or has, done the same thing to a heterosexual couple. I don't think that's fair.

 

[Samechiel]

If hetrosexual couples kissing were kick out as well it wouldn't be a problem

And you have no way of knowing that they don't ask heterosexual couples to leave for making out -the article doesn't provide that information. You're making assumptions and declaring them as truth.

Saying this is any form of homophobia is simply asinine.

 

[Baneat]

There's nothing wrong with letting people kick gays/whoever out of their business establishments.

 

[derdeutschmachine]

It depends on how obnoxious they were about it. And if the owners got complaints... they did what they had to. Every business owner is in business to make money. If there is something that could potentially take customers away from them, they will remove it. Sorry that's just business.

 

[Mrrrgggrlllrrrg]

It's the same thing, you wouldn't kick a guy out of a bar for kissing his girlfriend would you?

I would, my bars have to be depressing, it stimulates sales of course! Happy people muddy up everything with their fancy mathematics.

 

[The Rockerfly]

I can see why, homosexuality is still not accepted by many older generations because that's how they grew up with it, racism is still common because people grew up learning these discriminations. They complain and start leaving that's bad business for the pub so they will ask you to leave, it's not rocket science

I've seen pubs kick people out for much smaller reasons,couples making out, fighting, even wearing cloths that didn't match their standards. I think personally if more than a few people complain then yes it was perfectly right for them, sorry but it is a place of business and they are creating bad business

 

[Savber]

It depends on how obnoxious they were about it. And if the owners got complaints... they did what they had to. Every business owner is in business to make money. If there is something that could potentially take customers away from them, they will remove it. Sorry that's just business.

This. I don't care if the people kicked out were homosexuals or heterosexuals. If an action done makes customer unhappy, the owner has every right to tell the instigator to leave.
If this was in a PUBLIC area then make out all you want but in a private establishment the owner should be allowed to ask people to leave if customers express dissent.

IF the customers are nothing but racist, homophobic bigots then the problem is with the individuals that hold these beliefs and not whether a owner of a private establishment can ask a particular group, couple, or person to leave.

 

[Twilight_guy]

Well it depends on if the clientele was offended or not. If everyone there was wierded out then the owner has every right to kick them out because they were disrupting business. If hes just being prejudice against the guys then yeah that's kinda wrong.

 

[BlumiereBleck]

Thats what the "We reserve the right to refuse service for any reason" sign is for.
Besides, for all we know they were being obscene but hey, they are a minority so we are just supposed to excuse them huh? Were it a hetero couple that got kicked out everyone would just say "meh, they probably were being obscene" and would not have made such a big deal about it. But because its a gay couple everyone just blames the owner.
And the whole gay kissing protest thing is just fucking tacky.
Don't like the business? Do not give it your money.

You sir deserve the invite of friendship

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

I am uncomfortable at most public displays of affection, so I would be just as disturbed by seeing a straight, gay, lesbian or transgender couple kissing in public. However, my response is usually to just not look. That seems to solve the problem immediately.

My response to this is simple. If they would have ejected a straight couple for the kiss (allegedly it was just a peck on the cheek or on the lips) then fine, apply the rule equally, but if you're going to eject a gay couple for doing something and not a straight couple, you're discriminating. Like I said, simple.

Besides, for all we know they were being obscene but hey, they are a minority so we are just supposed to excuse them huh? Were it a hetero couple that got kicked out everyone would just say "meh, they probably were being obscene" and would not have made such a big deal about it. But because its a gay couple everyone just blames the owner.

Did you read the article? It already answers the question about being completely obscene. According to them the worst was a peck on the cheek or possibly the lips, something that no hetero couple would have been kicked out for.

If the pub could claim in all honesty that they would eject a straight couple who gave each other a quick peck on the lips I would support their decision, but I would be prepared to bet everything I own that a straight couple kssing would be completely okay.

 

[Hosker]

I am completely indifferent on the subject.

 

[The Gnome King]

Yeah, people making out is pretty much the norm at a bar.

But obviously these two were just looking for attention, as is suggested in every thread about LGBT discrimination brought up on this forum. You know, because homophobia is totally done in the UK. That guy a few years ago beat himself to death for the attention. Damn attention whoring gays and their "OMG HOMOPHOBIA", as if it actually exists. Madness!

I always roll my eyes at these posts. In the states, we would most likely contact the ACLU, a lawyer, a gay rights organization, or all of the above. Then we'd have the pub/bar owner "prove" that he also kicked heterosexual couples out for the same behavior.

If not, it's discrimination and it's just as bad as, say, kicking out an interracial couple for kissing because you don't believe in "race mixing" - as sad as it is, I actually have met some people who still think it's disgusting that black people and white people intermarry and kiss. In some parts of the southern states you can actually put yourself in danger if you're a black man seen publicly with a white woman.

It's sad and since people only change their behavior when hurt (usually in their wallet) I think these acts should be taken on a case by case basis. If he's kicking heterosexual couples out of his pub for kissing as well, it's not discrimination it's just poor business practices. If he's singling out blacks, or gays - then yes, it's discrimination and it should stop.

People who claim gays are out looking to file lawsuits over this kind of thing are just nuts. Most gay couples honestly want to be left alone as much as het couples do, and if you find it offensive - I know this is a shocker but - you can look away.

 

[kickyourass]

For me it depends on how 'into it' the men in question were getting, if it was just regular kissing then I'd say that it's kinda bullshit that they got kicked out. But if they were really going at it, then I support the bar's decision (if I'm in a public place I don't want to see two people sticking their tongues down each other's throats regardless of the genders of the people involved).
But since the article didn't really provide alot of details to what they were actually doing I can't see any gounds for making a solid judgement.