U.S. bans flavored cigarettes

[BonsaiK]

Oh come on, if you really want flavour in your cigarette, you can still roll your own and put in there any flavour you damn well please. It doesn't attack your right to have cigs with a flavour, it just stops companies marketing pre-made candy cigs at kids. The ban is a beautiful thing.

 

[Dr. Love]

Freedom=The right to be stupid, let people do their stupid shit in private why ban it? if you wanna overdose on crack please do its a good way of ridding another moron breathing precious oxygen. As long as you don't interfere with someone elses health should be okay

 

[axia777]

Oh come on, if you really want flavour in your cigarette, you can still roll your own and put in there any flavour you damn well please. It doesn't attack your right to have cigs with a flavour, it just stops companies marketing pre-made candy cigs at kids. The ban is a beautiful thing.

Uh, they are not marketed to kids. How were they ever? Did I ever see a cig commercial on Nickalodean? Or Cartoon Network? Just to let you know, most of the people who bought these were legal adults. This is just more "But Think of The Children" bullshit. It is the same as the politicians wanting to ban violent video games even though most of the people who play such video games are adults. It is crap thinking.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

i'm surprisingly furious at this. i'm not a regular smoker, and i'm completely in favor of taxes on tobacco and public smoking bans, but this makes no sense from a public health standpoint and pointlessly restrains free trade.

Neither does public smoking bans, you know.

If you want to know more, then try to put aside the politically correct propaganda you've been fed about smoking and take a look at some actual science done on the matter.

Or maybe the FDA will require all liquor to taste terrible, so they won't be as appealing to kids?

In that case, I think im covered. Kids tend to dislike whisky (or "scotch" as the yanks call it) regardless of how well tasting and fine it is. : )

 

[axia777]

In that case, I think im covered. Kids tend to dislike whiskey (or "scotch" as the yanks call it) regardless of how well tasting and fine it is. : )

Uh, Whiskey and Scotch are totally different. We have both just to let you know here in America. We also have Bourbon too. They are all related, but not the same.

 

[Satin6T]

thats soooo lame, I'm not a smoker
but I believe in personal freedoms damnit

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

In that case, I think im covered. Kids tend to dislike whiskey (or "scotch" as the yanks call it) regardless of how well tasting and fine it is. : )

Uh, Whiskey and Scotch are totally different. We have both just to let you know here in America. We also have Bourbon too. They are all related, but not the same.

... Well that's embarassing. I wrote an "e". What I meant to write was "whisky" (a.k.a "Scotch" in the U.S). The scots call it that without the "e" like "Irish Whiskey" has, or american "Tennessee whiskey".

I've been discussing so many non Scottish beverages lately so the additional "e" tend to sneak in sometimes in places where it shouldn't be.

 

[axia777]

In that case, I think im covered. Kids tend to dislike whiskey (or "scotch" as the yanks call it) regardless of how well tasting and fine it is. : )

Uh, Whiskey and Scotch are totally different. We have both just to let you know here in America. We also have Bourbon too. They are all related, but not the same.

... Well that's embarassing. I wrote an "e". What I meant to write was "whisky" (a.k.a "Scotch" in the U.S). The scots call it that without the "e" like "Irish Whiskey" has, or american "Tennessee whiskey".

I've been discussing so many non Scottish beverages lately so the additional "e" tend to sneak in sometimes in places where it shouldn't be.

Oh, I get it. Let's here it for a good Scottish "Whisky". I like Glenlivet or Glenfiddich Single Malt Whisky myself. Goes down smooth and warms the belly nicely.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

Oh, I get it. Let's here it for a good Scottish "Whisky". I like Glenlivet or Glenfiddich Single Malt Whisky myself. Goes down smooth and warms the belly nicely.

Both very nice brands indeed.

However my own personal favourite is actually a blend. The Black Grouse. It's got that perfect subtle smokey aftertaste but without tasting like someone dumped a truckload of cigarette butts in it like some brands taste like.

I want my cigar's TOGETHER with the Scotch. Not mixed into the same drink. You know what I mean?

As for the Black Grouse, I know it is a bit poor taste, but I blame my genetic predisposition towards liking Famous Grouse and it's derivatives (have a grandfather whose been drinking the stuff for years). It's sort of a quirk really. : )

However since The Black Grouse came out as common goods, rather than campaign specialty, I've never bought a bottle of Famous Grouse ever since. The Black one just tastes better.

 

[Alpha Centauri]

Cigarettes are evil and smokers should pay high taxes for their filthy habit.

I'm of the opinion that it should be outright illegal.

Oh look, another control freak who thinks that government regulations will have any effect on how people act. If it is legalized people will get it anyways. But then geniuses like you have never figured that one out.

As for the ban, it will never work. People will just get the banned cigarettes off of the Internet. This is retarded and I expect America to be sued in International court for breaking trade agreements.

Lots of people are going to be pissed that they can't get Djarum's and Djarum Blacks. THis is ten tons of BULLSHIT.

I hate to say it...but I kind of support this.

Back when I was in high school clove cigarettes were pretty much all that was smoked and it was smoked heavily. It was a lot of the kids starter cigarette. Don't get me wrong, none of them moved onto meth and even a few of them simply stopped after about a month of smoking, but it did lure them in and that is the point of what they were doing.

Anyway, I believe cigs should taste like cigs. If you need the taste of chocolate to stand them, then you really shouldn't be smoking.

Oh please. Tens of millions of kids started smoking cigs way before any of us were even born. They never had flavored cigarettes. Do any of you who support this really think it will get teens to stop smoking or even keep them from starting?

Because frankly, that is just a huge joke. It will have ZERO effect. This is just more BS that the politicians are trying to do to look good in the the eyes of the voters.

I totally agree with you sir, and I offer a exhibit to support you. Prohibition (Make it illigeal and the the gangs will regulate it.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

I totally agree with you sir, and I offer a exhibit to support you. Prohibition (Make it illigeal and the the gangs will regulate it.

Oh yes, they tried that with alcohol somewhere in the early twentieth century. The results?

Oh nothing really. Just a spike in organized crime, who still are around and the police have a really hard time getting rid of. Prohibition is the shit!... (note: im being sarcastic here)

You'd think that any government would've learned it's lesson by now. Prohibition in ANYTHING that a large part of the general public actually want's only results in criminals like Al Capone getting rich and powerful. Why would you want to support criminals by banning some merchandise and services? It's completely illogical.

 

[asinann]

Flavored tobaccos are incentives for teens to smoke. I know teens that can't smoke regular cigarettes because they are too harsh so they smoke flavored and cloves. No flavors and no cloves means either they learn to smoke the harsher ones or they stop smoking. The FDA has ruled that those things were targeting children and tried to ban them years ago. The supreme court said that the FDA had no authority to regulate tobacco period so congress gave them the authority. They also plan on banning any words that might make a cigarette seem more healthy like lights and ultra lights (both of which just cause people to smoke more cigarettes to get the same amount of nicotine.)

 

[axia777]

I totally agree with you sir, and I offer a exhibit to support you. Prohibition (Make it illigeal and the the gangs will regulate it.

Yes, and we all know how that Prohibition worked. It was a real winner. Just like the American war on Drugs. EPIC FAIL X 1,000,000.

However my own personal favourite is actually a blend. The Black Grouse. It's got that perfect subtle smokey aftertaste but without tasting like someone dumped a truckload of cigarette butts in it like some brands taste like.

Cool, thanks for the tip. I will have to try it some time.

Flavored tobaccos are incentives for teens to smoke. I know teens that can't smoke regular cigarettes because they are too harsh so they smoke flavored and cloves. No flavors and no cloves means either they learn to smoke the harsher ones or they stop smoking. The FDA has ruled that those things were targeting children and tried to ban them years ago. The supreme court said that the FDA had no authority to regulate tobacco period so congress gave them the authority. They also plan on banning any words that might make a cigarette seem more healthy like lights and ultra lights (both of which just cause people to smoke more cigarettes to get the same amount of nicotine.)

Seriously, when are you people going to learn that banning anything has no effect on how people act? Have you not read history books? Prohibition of any kind has no effect. It is a losing situation. The sooner that people learn this the faster we can stop pissing tax payer dollars down the crapper supporting laws that are retarded.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

Flavored tobaccos are incentives for teens to smoke. I know teens that can't smoke regular cigarettes because they are too harsh so they smoke flavored and cloves. No flavors and no cloves means either they learn to smoke the harsher ones or they stop smoking. The FDA has ruled that those things were targeting children and tried to ban them years ago. The supreme court said that the FDA had no authority to regulate tobacco period so congress gave them the authority. They also plan on banning any words that might make a cigarette seem more healthy like lights and ultra lights (both of which just cause people to smoke more cigarettes to get the same amount of nicotine.)

Did they actually have any proof that flavoured tobaccos where designed as an incentive for kids to smoke?

Haven't they been doing the same with cigars for... Well ever since the first cigars were invented?

Banning is not the answer here. Holding the kids parents more responsible is what should be done. It is the parents job to make sure that kids don't get their hands on goods and services which kids shouldn't have. But as usual, parents try to blame rest of society for being "too dangerous" for their kids. It's not the rest of society's job to parent children...

 

[axia777]

But as usual, parents try to blame rest of society for being "too dangerous" for their kids. It's not the rest of society's job to parent children...

Hell's yes my man! This is all clearly a parental responsibility that the parents want to blame on others for screwing up.

 

[asinann]

What the government seems to forget is that we have the freedom to smoke if we want to, and that they should really do nothing to impose upon our free will. Smoking does not hurt anyone but the smoker, and come on. What smoker, or non-smoker, does not know the risk of smoking?

As a smoker, I'm all for being considerate of non-smokers and not smoking in close proximity to them or whatever, but there are already enough regulations, area restrictions, and BS taxes on it to begin with. They really don't need to do anyting more to smoking.

Someone doesn't read too many studies do they. Second hand smoke causes lung cancer, emphysema and asthma in increased rates in homes where there is a smoker. And the second hand smoke isn't filtered like a regular cigarette so they get ALL of the nasties with none of the nicotine. Some people are outright allergic to cigarette smoke , but most smokers I know when asked to do so much as step outside my door (in MY home) to smoke will tell me to kiss their asses. Smokers for the most part are completely clueless as to how non-smokers feel about having to be around the smell of smoke for four hours after you get away from the smoker. That crap lingers on your clothes. The vast majority of smokers flipped out when the ban on smoking anywhere near a door or window to a public building went into effect around here, but all I've noticed is that I don't smell like an ashtray when I walk to the corner store and there aren't piles of butts in the gutter.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

Cool, thanks for the tip. I will have to try it some time.

You're welcome. Although you might have to go to an obscure liquor store to get it. I think the Black Grouse was designed specifically for the Swedish market, so it might be a bit hard to come by in other countries. Otherwise you could speak with the owner of a liquor store with an extensive selection and ask what it would cost to order a bottle or two. It's not like it's fine whisky with 40 years on it's neck or anything like that, which can cost a fortune.

 

[axia777]

Cool, thanks for the tip. I will have to try it some time.

You're welcome. Although you might have to go to an obscure liquor store to get it. I think the Black Grouse was designed specifically for the Swedish market, so it might be a bit hard to come by in other countries. Otherwise you could speak with the owner of a liquor store with an extensive selection and ask what it would cost to order a bottle or two. It's not like it's fine whisky with 40 years on it's neck or anything like that, which can cost a fortune.

We have this store called BevMo that stocks all kinds or rare and specialty liquors. I bet you they have it. BevMo RULES.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

Someone doesn't read too many studies do they.

Someone seem to swallow a bit too much political propaganda here. You might want to check with some real scientific studies NOT sponsored by some anti-smoking lobbyist group before forming an opinion...

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

We have this store called BevMo that stocks all kinds or rare and specialty liquors. I bet you they have it. BevMo RULES.

Cool. : )

Would like to have something like that here. But alcohol is a regulated substance over here. You can only buy beverages with a certain alcoholic content in special stoers sponsored by the government. Which does have it benefits of course (making it a lot harder for kids who shouldn't be drinking in getting a hold of the stuff, although some assholes of legal age still buy it for them), but sometimes the selection can feel a bit limited.