Mazty said:
Rolling Thunder said:
Oh, good, more Marine Fail. The single least characterful chapter, in the single least characterful army. Why not make a movie about a Tyranid Hormagaunt? Or a Necron Warrior? Seriously, Space Marines in general are faceless, Ultramarines doubly so.
....Maybe on the tabletop but not in the literature/Inquistor game.
Marines are supermen bas****s that'll kill you because you don't believe what they do. With fire. And bullets. Mercilessly. And with the history of the tyranids and the Ultra's, could mean a nice Hive Fleet could make the scene.
Yeah, you're wrong. Read some marine fluff. The read Inquisition fluff, or Guard fluff. The latter is far, far superior, because they can be related to. Space Marines are 'teh perfectest soldiers evar', a distinctly unsubtle ploy by GW to market their product, but one which backfires when you try and make a decent story about the. It's near-impossible to do. Most of the better attempts just wind up with them as people, just with mad skills, strength and the like. The rest are just unreadable.
The problem is,
everyone in 40K is a superhuman badass, an alien monstrousity, or just badass. The latter is actually better, because you don't get the sheer boring-ness of the Space Marines. Sure, you might want Action Man in Space, who's nothing more than a dumb, meatheaded lox who casually slaughters his way through enemies. But some of us want actual heros - and marines are not heros. Marines are lobotomised to the point they can't feel fear, can't fight an actual war* due to their low numbers, and, in general, are so overdone that it becomes laughable, given how unimportant they are in the fluff.
*Seriously. Marines can't fight ground wars. Any actions they take have to be taken in concert with allies. Usually the Imperial Guard.