Valve, just stop... (a rant)
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Ya, but Valve/Steam doesn't. They charge a set price. $20. And that comes with all the glamour of TF2, custom maps and such. The XBox version does not. You get a VERY glitchy game with many things wrong with it that people can exploit to be uber cheap. For the same price as the epic TF2 game, you get a buggy mess, because Microsoft is just all sorts of douche.Bags159 said:
have you seen Pulp fiction? its very well known for its memorable quotes and stuffTiefBlau said:
anyway theres this breif case in the film and a very popular fan theory that the balck gangsta's (Wallace marcellus) soul is in there, in the shots from the back you see he has a band aid on the back of his head, as in where they took his soul from (its just a popular theory, not actually confirmed by the film makers)
anyway...the black guy in the logo looks alot like the guy from pulp fiction and where the valve is makes me think its a reference to pulp fiction
What he said. In order to release the updates, Valve will have to charge for them, which would split the playerbase and cause all sorts of issues. They don't want to screw you over, but MS doesn't let them do much.Woodsey said:
Also, this is the logo of Valve thats ingrained into my mind:
I don't see why a robber would be interested in his soul, or even know what it is.Vault101 said:
I always assumed it was gold, given how it shined just like your run-of-the-mill Aztec golden idol does in Indiana Jones or what have you.
Either way, Tarantino never specified what was in there, and a co-writer of Pulp, Roger Avery, has stated that originally there were no orange-ish glow, and that he in fact regretted the idea of installing a lightbulb in the case, because it gave the whole thing a "supernatural" feeling, which apparently wasn't his intention.
Bottom line, we're kinda supposed to imagine it for ourselves. No prop master can beat the human imagination.
So what you're saying is, that a company that makes great games should stop making great games because another company imposes absolutely ridiculous rules on their console/systems? Have you thought about maybe being angry at Microsoft instead? You know, cause you're fully aware it's their fault and state as much yourself?
So you want Valve to improve by stopping games being made? Righto...
I kid, but seriously, the console ports are fine (I'm in Australia, L4D2, you could be worse off). The PC guys will get the extra features that just can't be done on consoles, due to policies or restrictions.
If you think that's bad then think about all the people who bought Pac Man on the 2600.
I kid, but seriously, the console ports are fine (I'm in Australia, L4D2, you could be worse off). The PC guys will get the extra features that just can't be done on consoles, due to policies or restrictions.
If you think that's bad then think about all the people who bought Pac Man on the 2600.
This may, very possibly be the only post I ever, ever make here... And yes I've just linked up with my FB account. However, I feel the need to voice my opinion.
Think for a moment about all the PC players who get lumbered with *chooses words carefully* bad... no, crappy PC ports of games. Valve seem to be one of the only developers really pioneering it for the PC crowd out there and for that I salute them.
Alas. Off into the shadows I go...
Think for a moment about all the PC players who get lumbered with *chooses words carefully* bad... no, crappy PC ports of games. Valve seem to be one of the only developers really pioneering it for the PC crowd out there and for that I salute them.
This is how PC gamers feel about console ports. Every day, even with AAA releases. Hell, we're probably going to feel it with Crysis 2, which was ours in the first place. If we can deal with EA, Activision, Bioware, Rockstar, Ubisoft, Codemasters and alot of the other developers delivering us substandard ports and support, maybe the guys at Valve can be forgiven.
Alas. Off into the shadows I go...
yes I KNOW that, its jsut a fun theory anyway I like the idea that its his soul (however originaly its diamonds, from resovour dogs)CCountZero said:
My point wasnt about the film or the theory itself but weather or not the logo is a reference to pulp fiction, soul theory or not
Aren't they releasing the official DLC to the console also(even if you have to pay for it)? So what if you can't download custom maps, they are made by users not Valve...
And btw try to play PC ports of most modern games, then tell me which part that is suffering.
And btw try to play PC ports of most modern games, then tell me which part that is suffering.
They're the only company that treats pc gamers properly, have you seen the shitty console ports pc gamers have gotten lately? Consoles get many things first and foremost, and you're complaining about Valve not giving you what you already get from everyone else?silver wolf009 said:
You know Dead Space 2? PC gamers were denied all of the announced DLC, why, no reason was given, none.
Played Bulletstorm on PC? All of the settings files were encrypted, you needed to download special software just to change things like mouse smoothing and max frame rates.
Black ops: Nuff said
Even Crytek, the development company behind one of the best looking games for pc, seem to be going the "Console first, fuck pc" route if what I experienced in the Crysis 2 demo really carries over to the main release.
The lack of updates is mostly the console companies fault, I remember an article a while back where Valve mentioned the reason TF2 wasn't updated on the Xbox was because of Microsoft restrictions. Don't blame Valve, blame Microsoft.
You know a lot of it stems from the fact that Microsofts rules for Xbox live are shit right?
Also, they got there start on the pc. Its their lead platform and there one of the last few developers who have it as the focus instead of the consoles, where most companies consider the money to be. I for one, (and this is coming from a console player), think its fine that they treat the PC better. Why? Because no one else does >.> (Blizzard also.)
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Love you valve. Keep on making absolute masterpieces and that will never change.
Also, they got there start on the pc. Its their lead platform and there one of the last few developers who have it as the focus instead of the consoles, where most companies consider the money to be. I for one, (and this is coming from a console player), think its fine that they treat the PC better. Why? Because no one else does >.> (Blizzard also.)
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Love you valve. Keep on making absolute masterpieces and that will never change.
Honestly, you're not missing much with L4D custom maps.
Still, I don't see why the fact that PC games are better should mean the devs shouldn't release console ports. Call of Duty doesn't seem hampered by the fact that there are no custom maps (people dislike it for other reasons, but I don't really hear this as one). Oblivion did fine on consoles without mods. TF2's best maps are Valve-made. The best L4D campaigns are still Valve's.
Still, I don't see why the fact that PC games are better should mean the devs shouldn't release console ports. Call of Duty doesn't seem hampered by the fact that there are no custom maps (people dislike it for other reasons, but I don't really hear this as one). Oblivion did fine on consoles without mods. TF2's best maps are Valve-made. The best L4D campaigns are still Valve's.